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UncaMikey wrote:
I am not particularly interested in futzing about with chemicals, even though everyone keeps saying how easy and cheap it is. But just in case (and for the benefit of the untold millions of Usenet lurkers reading this thread), where is the best overview of what's involved? Cost, equipment and materials, space requirements, etc? And it still leaves printing, right? I have had more problems with crappy printing than with crappy processing. Is printing difficult and expensive? Cost and equipment are tied together. If you really wanted to then an automated setup could be bought. It'll cost more. OTOH you can get a basic setup today off Ebay for not much more then $20. Even new it's not much more then that. It's the same thing with printing. You can spend more money and have more of the process done for you or you can piece together a fairly bacic setup for peanuts. Average printing at a level better then you'll find from your average commerical printer is relatively easy. Fine art printing from a lousy negative requires much more skill. OTOH nothing encourages you to improve your photography then trying to print your own lousy negatives. Nick |
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In rec.photo.equipment.35mm Uranium Committee wrote:
Well, I cannot even conceive of doing B&W without a darkroom. It's thoroughly pointless. Maybeyou should first conceive the though that you need to actualy take pictures for photography? -- Sander +++ Out of cheese error +++ |
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Really in your case I just wouldn't bother, if you must shoot B&W get a C-41
film like the current excellent Ilford or Kodak products and have the lab do it. Be aware that B&W is much more subjective than color film and you will probably not be happy with any low end Black and White printing. -- darkroommike ---------- "UncaMikey" wrote in message om... Chris Loffredo wrote in message ... Ask if you want to know more... Thanks for the comments and confirming my suspicions. I looked at the negatives, and it's possible they are not as bad as the prints would indicate, so perhaps the bigger problem was the printing rather than the processing. I am not particularly interested in futzing about with chemicals, even though everyone keeps saying how easy and cheap it is. But just in case (and for the benefit of the untold millions of Usenet lurkers reading this thread), where is the best overview of what's involved? Cost, equipment and materials, space requirements, etc? And it still leaves printing, right? I have had more problems with crappy printing than with crappy processing. Is printing difficult and expensive? Thanks again. *UncaMikey |
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Really in your case I just wouldn't bother, if you must shoot B&W get a C-41
film like the current excellent Ilford or Kodak products and have the lab do it. Be aware that B&W is much more subjective than color film and you will probably not be happy with any low end Black and White printing. -- darkroommike ---------- "UncaMikey" wrote in message om... Chris Loffredo wrote in message ... Ask if you want to know more... Thanks for the comments and confirming my suspicions. I looked at the negatives, and it's possible they are not as bad as the prints would indicate, so perhaps the bigger problem was the printing rather than the processing. I am not particularly interested in futzing about with chemicals, even though everyone keeps saying how easy and cheap it is. But just in case (and for the benefit of the untold millions of Usenet lurkers reading this thread), where is the best overview of what's involved? Cost, equipment and materials, space requirements, etc? And it still leaves printing, right? I have had more problems with crappy printing than with crappy processing. Is printing difficult and expensive? Thanks again. *UncaMikey |
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Not if it's a British sportscar!
-- darkroommike ---------- "UncaMikey" wrote in message om... (Uranium Committee) wrote in message news: The whole point is "futzing about with chemicals". If you are just a shooter, you're not a real photographer. Well, of course I am not a "real photographer"! Never pretended to be anything other than a snapshooter, who perhaps tries to pay a little more attention. My interest lies in getting and composing interesting shots, not much in the processing side (either digitally or chemically). You can enjoy driving a sports car without wanting to know how to adjust the valves and timing, y'know? Larf! Maybe I'll try a non-credit course in darkroom work, I seem to recall something like that among the informal classes offered at local colleges and university. *UncaMikey |
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Not if it's a British sportscar!
-- darkroommike ---------- "UncaMikey" wrote in message om... (Uranium Committee) wrote in message news: The whole point is "futzing about with chemicals". If you are just a shooter, you're not a real photographer. Well, of course I am not a "real photographer"! Never pretended to be anything other than a snapshooter, who perhaps tries to pay a little more attention. My interest lies in getting and composing interesting shots, not much in the processing side (either digitally or chemically). You can enjoy driving a sports car without wanting to know how to adjust the valves and timing, y'know? Larf! Maybe I'll try a non-credit course in darkroom work, I seem to recall something like that among the informal classes offered at local colleges and university. *UncaMikey |
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