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Old April 1st 18, 07:09 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Alan Browne[_2_]
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Default Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?

On 2018-03-28 23:07, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts?

I have someone making signs for me on a vinyl style printer where she says
she can't read in the Microsoft Powerpoint and fonts, even though I've
embedded the entire truetype set (not just what's used in the document) in
the PowerPoint file.

I don't have a Mac nor Adobe Illustrator to test it out, but can't
Illustrator just read in the PowerPoint file with the fonts?

She says it can't do either, so she has to re-create the sign from a JPEG
which seems pretty ridiculous to me but I don't know the technology at all
since I have never done it.

It's basically two question:
1. Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a PowerPoint file from Windows?
2. If yes, can't it get the font out of the embedded font in the PPT file?


As usual, Microsoft have diddled you:
https://support.office.com/en-us/art...c-3af1bab640de

Near the bottom of that page is a section: "Text and Fonts". It says:

"Also remember that Windows versions of PowerPoint can embed
TrueType fonts within a presentation. But these embedded fonts
cannot be seen by Mac versions of PowerPoint."

Microsoft can't get it right w/i their own product line on 2 platforms.
I doubt that Adobe can do much better in pulling the font.


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  #32  
Old April 2nd 18, 12:10 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?

Am Sun, 1 Apr 2018 14:09:09 -0400, schrieb Alan Browne:

As usual, Microsoft have diddled you:
https://support.office.com/en-us/art...c-3af1bab640de

Near the bottom of that page is a section: "Text and Fonts". It says:

"Also remember that Windows versions of PowerPoint can embed
TrueType fonts within a presentation. But these embedded fonts
cannot be seen by Mac versions of PowerPoint."

Microsoft can't get it right w/i their own product line on 2 platforms.
I doubt that Adobe can do much better in pulling the font.


Hi Alan Browne,

Thank you for being purposefully helpful and for being an adult, by
bringing up that very important compatibility issue which is really a
Microsoft flaw, and not a Mac bug, although it affects the Mac and not
Windows.

Basically Microsoft doesn't let Mac Office read the fonts that were
embedded by Windows Office.

You'll note that I mentioned this long ago, but I don't remember if it was
mentioned in this r.p.d thread or in the a.c.o.w-10 thread, where your
admonition is very important.

The fact is that the Mac MS Office doesn't respect the Windows MS Office
embedded fonts, which is why we were hoping the Windows PDF with embedded
fonts will have better luck on the Mac with Adobe Illustrator.

So the question is really now whether the Mac can read embedded fonts in
the PDF file.

I don't have a Mac to answer that question, so I'm currently attempting to
answer that question using the Windows Adobe Illustrator.

Here is the progress we've made, to date, on the Windows newsgroup, which
has been extremely helpful, and technically competent, as always, no matter
what question is asked (nor how inconvenient the facts may be).

Here's a tutorial I just wrote up, for example, for the Windows users to
benefit from, where I simply asked them to help me figure out why the
second CD keeps being asked for.

There must be a trick - which I'm clearly ignorant of - to get the 2nd CD
to be found - but I just posted that question moments ago, so we'll wait
for the Windows users to figure it out, and then anyone can repeat the
tests I'm running, because that's how we work on the Windows and Linux
newsgroups.
==== ==== ====
1. Download the 4 files from:
https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4...uite-free.html
-----
Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1.exe
Size: 375638402 bytes (358 MB)
SHA256: 36DACE2549BDE94D7A45281380EEF453FD2AF38EDA19348FA3 DE567549A696EC
SHA1: 1538166046E59DB6098F75C3196E84AD9310DEA1
-----
Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2.exe
Size: 427451410 bytes (407 MB)
SHA256: 5862668CA45C0196777D3D4E2108D0A6F0750F6965769CB573 0944D3520DBB54
Size: 427451410 bytes (407 MB)
SHA1: D06911267603474B43F3F39E4B00029787173962
-----
Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3.exe
Size: 346373903 bytes (330 MB)
SHA256: C662F1C431FAA33160523545FDA3BD58F29ED3616CB8E6D183 5CCE810AD5AB30
SHA1: 54BA48723D657E4A86903ED2C876381488C8F945
-----
Name: CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1.exe
Size: 431237012 bytes (411 MB)
SHA256: 921402DA55BFEF5E6E21DE2261F725FFE0A451153F453000FB 3152635E1161BE
SHA1: 1C6CC05D49244ED1417B3E2C3136D4FD0B7F57E0

2. Unpack by right clicking & selecting 7Zip unpack to (choose the
default):
-----
CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1.exe unpacks with 7Zip to
.\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\.
.\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Design Guide.pdf
.\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\How To Install.html
.\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\How to Uninstall.pdf
.\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Read Me First.html
-----
CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2.exe unpacks with 7Zip to
.\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2\Adobe InDesign CS2\.
.\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2\Adobe Version Cue CS2\.
-----
CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3.exe unpacks with 7Zip to
.\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\.
-----
CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1.exe unpacks with 7Zip to
.\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Adobe Solutions Network\.
.\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Documentation\.
.\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Goodies\.
.\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Technical Information\.

3. Combine all files and directories into a single directory:
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\.
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe InDesign CS2\.
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Solutions Network\.
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Version Cue CS2\.
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\Design Guide.pdf
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\Documentation\.
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\Goodies\.
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\How To Install.html
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\How to Uninstall.pdf
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\Read Me First.html
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\Technical Information\.

4. Run the installer (I ran on Windows 10 1709 Creator's Edition):
.\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\Setup.exe

5. You'll get a warning that "QuickTime 6 is required to use the
multimedia features in the Adobe Creative Suite 2", which you
can ignore.

6. Then it will require a Name (default = "Windows User") & serial number.
Name: Windows user
Company: blank
Serial Number 1130 1414 7569 4457 6613 5551

7. It will default to C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe
It says it will use up 2.62GB
I put mine in C:\app\editor\pic\cs2

8. There will be a choice of what components to install:
[x] Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB)
[x] Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB)
[x] Adobe Photoshop CS2 and Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB)
[x] Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB)

9. It will start installing and then ask:
"Please insert CD 2 to continue installation"
where if you hit the "OK" button, it will ask forever
for that CD 2.

Note: It seems to have installed Photoshop though, but nothing else.

10. So I hit cancel, and then ran the Setup.exe again.
Up pops an option to "Change/Remove the Adobe Creative Suite 2"
with the two options:
(_) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components
(o) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components

So I switch that default to:
(0) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components
(_) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components

11. This time a form came up to "Change Individual Components", saying:
Please select the components of the Adobe Creative Suite 2 to modify.
Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB)
[No Change - Not Installed] or [Install]
Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB)
[No Change - Not Installed] or [Install]
Adobe Photoshop CS2 & Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB)
[No Change - Installed] or [Uninstall] or [Re-Install]
Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB)
[No Change - Not Installed] or [Install]
Where the first item in the list is the default.

12. I changed the Adobe Illustrator CS2 to "Install" & hit Next
and waited for it to display a "Finish" button, which I hit
and the installation GUI went away.

13. So I ran the Setup.exe again.
Up pops an option to "Change/Remove the Adobe Creative Suite 2"
with the two options:
(_) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components
(o) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components

So I switch that default to:
(0) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components
(_) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components

14. Now the "Change Individual Components" form says:
Please select the components of the Adobe Creative Suite 2 to modify.
Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB)
[No Change - Installed] or [Uninstall] or [Re-Install]
Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB)
[No Change - Not Installed] or [Install]
Adobe Photoshop CS2 & Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB)
[No Change - Installed] or [Uninstall] or [Re-Install]
Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB)
[No Change - Not Installed] or [Install]
Where the first item in the list is the default.

15. This time I selected both the remaining tools to install and hit Next.
Drat.
It asked for CD 2 and wouldn't take anything else for an answer.
So I had to quit.

16. So I ran the Setup.exe again and only selected one product to install.
Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB)
But it asked for CD 2 so I killed that.

17. So I ran the Setup.exe again and only selected one product to install.
Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB)
But it asked for CD 2 so I killed that.

18. Giving up on the entire suite, I then looked to see what was installed.
C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\.
Adobe Bridge\.
Adobe Creative Suite 2\.
Adobe Help Center\.
Adobe Illustrator CS2\.
Adobe Photoshop CS2\.
Adobe Stock Photos \.

19. I guess the executables of interest a
C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Adobe Illustrator CS2.lnk
Right clicking on the shortcut to select properties shows:
Target: "C:\app\editor\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Support
Files\Contents\Windows\Illustrator.exe
Open In: "c:\app\editor\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Support
Files\Contents\Windows\"
C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Photoshop CS2\Photoshop.exe
C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Bridge\Bridge.exe

20. Creating a shortcut to the Photoshop executable and running it
pops up Photoshop version 9.0 and a voluntary registration form
and then automatically checks for updates.

Photoshop, which I've never used, appears to be working.

21. Running the Adobe Illustrator shortcut seems to run Adobe Illustrator
version 12.0.0 and it doesn't ask for registration (probably because
the first executable you run is what asks).

Illustrator, which I've never used, appears to be working.
  #33  
Old April 2nd 18, 12:15 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Default Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?

On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 10:14:38 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator.

illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free.


"freely available" does not mean that it's "free".

It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily
available".


no difference.


Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is
why it can be misleading to say they are freely available.

you are pirating it.


Not necessarily.


yes necessarily.


Even if he already has a license?
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Old April 2nd 18, 12:17 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?

In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote:


Here's a tutorial I just wrote up, for example, for the Windows users to
benefit from, where I simply asked them to help me figure out why the
second CD keeps being asked for.


you can't even manage to pirate software without having problems.
  #35  
Old April 2nd 18, 12:17 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Default Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator.

illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free.

"freely available" does not mean that it's "free".

It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily
available".


no difference.


Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is
why it can be misleading to say they are freely available.


bananas are not software

you are pirating it.

Not necessarily.


yes necessarily.


Even if he already has a license?


he doesn't and you know it.
  #36  
Old April 2nd 18, 12:18 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Default Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?

On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 08:36:34 -0700, Ragnusen Ultred
wrote:

Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 22:01:46 +1300, schrieb Eric Stevens:

"freely available" does not mean that it's "free".


Hi Eric,
I don't know you so I need to know if you're coming from the Mac side or
the adult side (rec.photo.digital).

If you're coming from the Mac side, then it's understanable that you're in
keeping with all the Apple children that they latch on to silly semantics
instead of the tougher technical topic which is being asked.

If you're coming from the adult side, I would simply ask you to answer the
technical question, which has no bearing on what the legal position of the
tools is (which, I might add, the adults on the Windows side already hashed
out to a level of detail that puts the silly Mac users to instant shame).

In short,
a. If you're coming from the Mac side, then you have no helpful intent, nor
do you have any technical capability to answer the question, so, it's
understandable that you latch, instead, tenaciously on silly semantic
games.

b. If you're coming from the adult side, then I already pointed you to the
adult side of that non-technical legal tangent, where your immense
confusion will be allayed.

Now back to the question at hand which has nothing to do with silly
semantics that the Apple users /always/ latch onto because they can't or
they refuse to answer even the /simplest/ of technical questions.


I will let you work out which side you think I belong to.

In writing ' "freely available" does not mean that it's "free" ' I was
writing about the source of the possible confusion of others, not
illustrating my own.
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Eric Stevens
  #37  
Old April 2nd 18, 12:21 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?

On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 10:13:45 +1200, Your Name
wrote:

On 2018-03-31 09:01:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 01:10:49 -0400, nospam
wrote:
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote:

from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator.

illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free.


"freely available" does not mean that it's "free".

It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily
available".

you are pirating it.


Not necessarily.


If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually
owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on
Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a
licence.


That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not
necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it"
nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct.
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Old April 2nd 18, 12:29 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.apps,rec.photo.digital
nospam
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Default Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator.

illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free.

"freely available" does not mean that it's "free".

It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily
available".

you are pirating it.

Not necessarily.


If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually
owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on
Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a
licence.


That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not
necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it"
nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct.


nope. i explained that.

the reality is that 'ultred' doesn't have a license and is pirating it.
  #39  
Old April 2nd 18, 12:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital, comp.sys.mac.apps
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Default Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?

On Apr 1, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 08:36:34 -0700, Ragnusen Ultred
wrote:

Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 22:01:46 +1300, schrieb Eric Stevens:

"freely available" does not mean that it's "free".


Hi Eric,
I don't know you so I need to know if you're coming from the Mac side or
the adult side (rec.photo.digital).

If you're coming from the Mac side, then it's understanable that you're in
keeping with all the Apple children that they latch on to silly semantics
instead of the tougher technical topic which is being asked.

If you're coming from the adult side, I would simply ask you to answer the
technical question, which has no bearing on what the legal position of the
tools is (which, I might add, the adults on the Windows side already hashed
out to a level of detail that puts the silly Mac users to instant shame).

In short,
a. If you're coming from the Mac side, then you have no helpful intent, nor
do you have any technical capability to answer the question, so, it's
understandable that you latch, instead, tenaciously on silly semantic
games.

b. If you're coming from the adult side, then I already pointed you to the
adult side of that non-technical legal tangent, where your immense
confusion will be allayed.

Now back to the question at hand which has nothing to do with silly
semantics that the Apple users /always/ latch onto because they can't or
they refuse to answer even the /simplest/ of technical questions.


I will let you work out which side you think I belong to.


Consider that you responded to his r.p.d. OP. The poster of many nyms then
added a cross post to comp.sys.mac.apps which has added to his confusion.


In writing ' "freely available" does not mean that it's "free" ' I was
writing about the source of the possible confusion of others, not
illustrating my own.


At some point historically Adobe had the expectation that folks accessing Ai
CS2, or any of the CS2 suite, had bought a license, and might have lost the
media. They were not announcing a free for all pirating operation.

The other issue is Ai CS2 is not supported by any Intel Apple computer. So it
will only run on a legacy PPC Mac, the last of which were sold in 2006 back
in the days of the G5 and OSX 10.4 Tiger, and most of those have been
retired.

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Old April 2nd 18, 01:03 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,comp.sys.mac.apps
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Default Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?

In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:


The other issue is Ai CS2 is not supported by any Intel Apple computer. So it
will only run on a legacy PPC Mac, the last of which were sold in 2006 back
in the days of the G5 and OSX 10.4 Tiger, and most of those have been
retired.


it also won't run on recent versions of windows either.

adobe took the activation servers offline because there were no new
customers.
 




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