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Chance to Photo MLB's World Series 2007 Game 4
My wife likes baseball and thought this would be an enticement for me
to "go" to a big game. http://promotions.monster.com/2007mlbworldseries/ Now read the rules http://promotions.monster.com/2007ml...ries/rules.asp Pay particular attention to rule #7 Now can someone explain the second to last sentence in rule #5? How irritated would they be if I brought my own camera? ;-) Good luck to anyone that enters. Jim |
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Chance to Photo MLB's World Series 2007 Game 4
JimKramer wrote:
My wife likes baseball and thought this would be an enticement for me to "go" to a big game. http://promotions.monster.com/2007mlbworldseries/ Now read the rules http://promotions.monster.com/2007ml...ries/rules.asp Pay particular attention to rule #7 "Grand Prize winner shall have no right of approval, no claim to compensation, and no claim (including, without limitation, claims based on invasion of privacy, defamation, or right of publicity) arising out of any use, blurring, alteration, or use in composite form of the Submission(s) including Grand Prize winner’s name, picture, likeness, address (city and state), e-mail address, voice, biographical information, written or oral statements or entry." Now can someone explain the second to last sentence in rule #5? "If potential winner is a Canadian resident, he/she must correctly answer a mathematical skill testing question as a condition of being awarded the prize." How irritated would they be if I brought my own camera? ;-) Good luck to anyone that enters. Jim -- Paul Furman Photography http://edgehill.net Bay Natives Nursery http://www.baynatives.com |
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Chance to Photo MLB's World Series 2007 Game 4
JimKramer wrote:
My wife likes baseball and thought this would be an enticement for me to "go" to a big game. http://promotions.monster.com/2007mlbworldseries/ Now read the rules http://promotions.monster.com/2007ml...ries/rules.asp Pay particular attention to rule #7 Their contest, their rules, ... their copyright. They call it a *job*. I guess that would make it "work for hire". Kind of a low average day rate: $1000 + "expenses" (transportation, lodging, admission ...). I bet the Sports Illustrated guys get paid more. This kind of "we own the pictures if you enter our contest" language seems to be pretty common with a LOT of photo "contests". I've even seen that language in contests sponsored by camera manufacturers, who should know better. Although the more common restriction from camera manufacturers contests is you have to take the image with their brand of camera, i.e. if it's Canon's contest, you can't submit images taken with Minolta, Nikon, Olympus, Pentax, Sony ... same for Nikon, Olympus, Pentax, and Sony contests. I wouldn't care all that much if I could be sure that any future use of the images would credit me by name as the photographer. Something like: Photo by P (c) copyright 2007 by MJ.C Wouldn't make anything off the contest pictures, but it might help me drum up some business otherwise. But it ain't gonna happen. They may have the winner's name on the contest site, but if the photos are used anywhere else, all that's gonna' appear is the "copyright by M"; no credit to the photographer. Now can someone explain the second to last sentence in rule #5? Pure boiler-plate legalese. Probably because Canada has some law against sweepstakes gambling the lawyers figured would affect this promotion in Canada. I bet it appears in any give-away promotional contest that includes Canada. Rule #4 says it's a random drawing from all entries; a "game of chance" if you will, i.e. gambling. The next to last sentence in rule #5 *technically* changes it to a "game of skill", rather than a "game of chance", if the winner happens to be from Canada. I doubt the "mathematical skill testing question" is more difficult than "What do you get when you add 2 + 2?" Note the last sentence: : All disputes will be resolved under applicable U.S. and Canadian laws. The U.S. version of the disclaimer would be something like "Offer not valid where licensed, taxed, restricted or prohibited by law". Actually, that's in there in rule #1 - : Open to legal residents of the 50 United States and the District of : Columbia and Canada (excluding the province of Quebec), who are eighteen : (18) years of age or older or the age of majority in your jurisdiction, : whichever is older. Void in Quebec and where prohibited by law, rule or : regulation. Isn't there still a Major League Baseball team somewhere in Canada? I thought there was one in Montreal; which, if my dim recollection of grade-school geography serves me well, was/is located somewhere in the province of Quebec. Or has it moved somewhere else? The team, not Montreal. How irritated would they be if I brought my own camera? ;-) Not at all I should think. The grand prize includes a Nikon D40 camera. No mention of a Nikon lens to go ON the camera ... so do you think they'd expect you to bring along your own lens? Anyway, if you win the grand prize, it IS your own camera ... .... or will be after you pay ALL EXPENSES, TAXES AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ACCEPTANCE AND USE OF THE PRIZES ... I doubt they care what camera the pictures are taken with, only that they'll own the copyright after they're taken. Good luck to anyone that enters. Jim I expect someone will be quite happy with their new Nikon D40 and won't give a hoot at all that someone else ends up with the copyright to their prize winning photographs. So who are these guys anyway? Is this the same as Monster Jobs dot Com? As best I can make out, you aren't entering any photographs UNLESS you're the grand prize winner. At least I didn't see anywhere you could submit photos to the contest. In fact it doesn't look like a photography contest at all. The photography's part of the PRIZE, not a requirement for entry. I bet whoever wins it isn't even a photographer at all. What it looks like they're really doing is using this as a come-on to get you to post a resume on their site. The real prize is a free trip to the game with access to the field & players ... oh and by the way, you get a free Nikon camera too. No Kodachrome though. |
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Chance to Photo MLB's World Series 2007 Game 4
On Aug 4, 12:42 pm, Pudentame wrote:
JimKramer wrote: My wife likes baseball and thought this would be an enticement for me to "go" to a big game. http://promotions.monster.com/2007mlbworldseries/ Now read the rules http://promotions.monster.com/2007ml...ries/rules.asp Pay particular attention to rule #7 Their contest, their rules, ... their copyright. Except that everyting MLB is copyright MLB. :-) {Snip} I thought there was one in Montreal; which, if my dim recollection of grade-school geography serves me well, was/is located somewhere in the province of Quebec. Or has it moved somewhere else? The team, not Montreal. Toronto, but MLB can and will move Montreal when and if it sees fit. They certainly can afford to do so. How irritated would they be if I brought my own camera? ;-) Not at all I should think. The grand prize includes a Nikon D40 camera. No mention of a Nikon lens to go ON the camera ... so do you think they'd expect you to bring along your own lens? Anyway, if you win the grand prize, it IS your own camera ... ... or will be after you pay ALL EXPENSES, TAXES AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ACCEPTANCE AND USE OF THE PRIZES ... I doubt they care what camera the pictures are taken with, only that they'll own the copyright after they're taken. Good luck to anyone that enters. Jim I expect someone will be quite happy with their new Nikon D40 and won't give a hoot at all that someone else ends up with the copyright to their prize winning photographs. So who are these guys anyway? Is this the same as Monster Jobs dot Com? The same. As best I can make out, you aren't entering any photographs UNLESS you're the grand prize winner. At least I didn't see anywhere you could submit photos to the contest. In fact it doesn't look like a photography contest at all. The photography's part of the PRIZE, not a requirement for entry. I bet whoever wins it isn't even a photographer at all. It's not but if you take pictures you give up the copyright. What it looks like they're really doing is using this as a come-on to get you to post a resume on their site. The real prize is a free trip to the game with access to the field & players ... oh and by the way, you get a free Nikon camera too. No Kodachrome though. You could take one of those archaic camera that use that transparent media stuff, but then all the viewers would wonder what you were doing when you changed rolls. :-) |
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Chance to Photo MLB's World Series 2007 Game 4
On 04 Aug 2007 in rec.photo.equipment.35mm, Pudentame wrote:
Isn't there still a Major League Baseball team somewhere in Canada? Toronto. http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/ I thought there was one in Montreal; which, if my dim recollection of grade-school geography serves me well, was/is located somewhere in the province of Quebec. Or has it moved somewhere else? The team, not Montreal. The Team Formerly Known as les Éxpo are now the Washington Nationals. -- Joe Makowiec http://makowiec.org/ Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe |
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Chance to Photo MLB's World Series 2007 Game 4
JimKramer wrote:
My wife likes baseball and thought this would be an enticement for me to "go" to a big game. http://promotions.monster.com/2007mlbworldseries/ Now read the rules http://promotions.monster.com/2007ml...ries/rules.asp Pay particular attention to rule #7 Now can someone explain the second to last sentence in rule #5? By law in Canada company promotional contests won by random drawing (rule 4) must have a "skill" evaluated to eliminate "chance". (I know this sounds stupid but that's because it is stupid). So kudos to Monster for including Canadians. A lot of US contests simply exclude Canadians due to this idiotic law. Some US based contests include Canada but exclude Quebec as Quebec has a law requiring that contests post a bond as well as a tax on contests. (See rule #1 of the monster contest. For this stupidity blame it on the Quebec government). The questions cannot be totally stupid (2+2), but should be "challenging" like: Divide 1000 by 5 Subtract 100 Add 20. But can also be like: "Guess the number of jelly beans in the jar" Frankly it's probably unconstitutional as even stupid people should be allowed to win something once in a while by chance or otherwise ... that's what all the provincial lotteries do. (aka "stupid tax"). Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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Chance to Photo MLB's World Series 2007 Game 4
"JimKramer" wrote in message oups.com... My wife likes baseball and thought this would be an enticement for me to "go" to a big game. http://promotions.monster.com/2007mlbworldseries/ Now read the rules http://promotions.monster.com/2007ml...ries/rules.asp Pay particular attention to rule #7 Now can someone explain the second to last sentence in rule #5? "If potential winner is a Canadian resident, he/she must correctly answer a mathematical skill testing question as a condition of being awarded the prize." Go to Yahoo, plug in "games of chance", Canada; and you get the following as the first item: http://www.gaminglawmasters.com/juri...nceOct2004.htm Games of Skill and Chance in Canada By Michael D. Lipton, Q.C. & Kevin Weber Introduction Betting and gaming operations are illegal in Canada. The combined effect of sections 197 to 206 of the Canadian Criminal Code (the "Code") has the effect of making any for-profit gaming or betting enterprise illegal, doing so in language broad enough to capture almost any activity in which people pay money for a chance to win a greater value than they stake. The casinos, slots and other gambling activities licensed by the provinces of Canada exist as a result of explicit exceptions created by the various provisions of section 207 of the Code. Then there are the "games" played for a chance to win valuable items, including the ubiquitous promotional contests that are a regular part of many marketing plans. The Code contains no explicit exemption allowing these games to operate. Their right to exist has been carved out of real and perceived "gaps" in the scope of activities covered by sections 197 to 206 of the Code. This paper will canvass in detail the sections of the Code applicable to "games," and the way contests of various sorts theoretically exempt themselves from prosecution by the addition of a "skill-testing question" and a "free-entry alternative." |
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Chance to Photo MLB's World Series 2007 Game 4
"JimKramer" wrote in message You could take one of those archaic camera that use that transparent media stuff, but then all the viewers would wonder what you were doing when you changed rolls. :-) You mean the ones with the single use, throw away electro-chemical sensing plane? |
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