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Old August 15th 07, 08:10 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"Eric Miller" wrote in message
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"Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site
and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?


It fits almost any definition of the word "published."

Eric Miller
www.dyesscreek.com


Considering the affordability and quality of modern printers, it is
relatively cheap to actually publish your own book.


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Old August 15th 07, 09:49 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Aug 15, 10:48 pm, Eric Miller
wrote:
"Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site
and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?


It fits almost any definition of the word "published."

Eric Millerwww.dyesscreek.com


yeah I guess it does, but I still think that it is taking it too
far. In this day and age one should expect that we can display
samples of our work... in NG's view, for an image to remain
"unpublished" we would need to keep it in a dark shoe box never to be
seen.

I know it's their marbles and we have to play the game by their
interpretation of their rules, but personally I would not consider an
image published until it had been supplied for commercial or editorial
use, be it by print or electronic media.

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Old August 15th 07, 10:02 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"PixelPix" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 15, 10:48 pm, Eric Miller
wrote:
"Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site
and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?


It fits almost any definition of the word "published."

Eric Millerwww.dyesscreek.com


yeah I guess it does, but I still think that it is taking it too
far. In this day and age one should expect that we can display
samples of our work... in NG's view, for an image to remain
"unpublished" we would need to keep it in a dark shoe box never to be
seen.

I know it's their marbles and we have to play the game by their
interpretation of their rules, but personally I would not consider an
image published until it had been supplied for commercial or editorial
use, be it by print or electronic media.

Today, One can publish their own book in their own workshop for an initial
outlay of probably less than 10 or 20 thousand dollars....One can also
establish a "publishing company" under their wife's or a friends name as
owner, and publish ones own book with that companies name and logo on
it.....I don't know how to get a library of congress ISBN number, but I
can't imagine that it would be very difficult or expensive, either.......


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Old August 15th 07, 10:18 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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PixelPix wrote:
On Aug 15, 12:03 am, Pudentame wrote:
PixelPix wrote:


The next day they announced the winner and it wasn't me. :-(
I checked back through the comps terms and there was nothing to say
that a pro could not enter, nor did it say anything about the image
needing to be "secret squirrel" prior to the comp.
So if you enter a NG comp, be warned!

Should have read the contest rules. It's in there.

The one with the shoot in Guatemala:

· To qualify, photographs submitted must have been made in 2004 or 2005
and must not have been published.


"Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site
and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?


Their contest - their rules.
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Old August 15th 07, 10:32 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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William Graham wrote:

Today, One can publish their own book in their own workshop for an initial
outlay of probably less than 10 or 20 thousand dollars....One can also
establish a "publishing company" under their wife's or a friends name as
owner, and publish ones own book with that companies name and logo on
it.....I don't know how to get a library of congress ISBN number, but I
can't imagine that it would be very difficult or expensive, either.......


The Library of Congress number comes back as part of registering a
copyright on a work. LC gets a copy. The number can be preassigned
before publication

International Standard Numbers are unique codes used by publishers,
libraries and suppliers to identify published works. ISBNs (International
Standard Book Numbers) are assigned to books, pamphlets,
CD's and DVD's.

Both are low cost, together perhaps $100

Publishing is easy, selling is the hard part

w..




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Old August 16th 07, 01:52 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
PixelPix
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On Aug 16, 7:02 am, "William Graham" wrote:
"PixelPix" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Aug 15, 10:48 pm, Eric Miller
wrote:
"Published" ....yeah, but having an image stored on your own web site
and calling it "published" is taking it a little far don't you think?


It fits almost any definition of the word "published."


Eric Millerwww.dyesscreek.com


yeah I guess it does, but I still think that it is taking it too
far. In this day and age one should expect that we can display
samples of our work... in NG's view, for an image to remain
"unpublished" we would need to keep it in a dark shoe box never to be
seen.


I know it's their marbles and we have to play the game by their
interpretation of their rules, but personally I would not consider an
image published until it had been supplied for commercial or editorial
use, be it by print or electronic media.


Today, One can publish their own book in their own workshop for an initial
outlay of probably less than 10 or 20 thousand dollars....One can also
establish a "publishing company" under their wife's or a friends name as
owner, and publish ones own book with that companies name and logo on
it.....I don't know how to get a library of congress ISBN number, but I
can't imagine that it would be very difficult or expensive, either.......


one can do lots of things sure.... but if none of those have been
done, considering an image "published" because it's on the
photographer's own web site is still a bit harsh IMHO.

 




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