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September 21st 04, 01:51 AM
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Shutter Speed help...choice of Cameras
First of all "newbie alert!"
************************************************** * short version would 1/2000 sec shutter speed be fast nought for taking motorcycle pics seeing this one was taken at 1/1000 http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned there are heaps of cameras in my price range (in Australia so prices around the Olympus c770) that will do 1/1000 or 1/2000 max I don't want to buy a camera that doesn't do what I want it to do, but as a hobby only don't want to pay over the top for camera that I cant afford (i.e SLR) could stretch to the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html which is what I would really love, but it could be a little big for carring around on the bike ta Marty H ************************************************** *********** long version be mucking around with digital camera for about 2 years but still consider myself a newbie, my work can be seen at www.martyh.com shameless plug must of this stuff is up on the web for the people who I converse with on the net who couldn't be at the event, not as a display of my lack of talent  most photos taken by a Kodak dx3215 1.3mp (mine) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/dx3215.html some taken by Sony FD 97 2.1mp (great camera for its day IMHO), love its optical zoom (employer's) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/fd97.html pics @ http://www.martyh.com/motoshow/index.htm and some by a Sony DSC-S75, lacks the optical zoom (ex-gf's) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/s75.html pics @ http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/index.htm also a played with the Olympus c750, http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/c750uz.html both my boss and workmate have this camera and are wrapped with it, so am I except the shutter speed, hence the main reason of this post as you can see most of my picture taking is centred around Motorcycles and downside to taking pictures of motorcycles and they sometimes go fast, there inst many photos of moving bikes because none of them came out (esp with the Kodak) http://www.martyh.com/eildon_we_2002...es/image29.htm that image was taken at 1/250, F8, ISO 100 and the bike doning approx 50mph/80kph both the Kodak and Olympus run a max 1/1000 shutter, but the Olympus has a F2.8 aperture compared with the Kodak's F4.5, http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned I think I just answered my on question with that last photo, is 1/1000 going to be fast enough?? no? what about 1/2000, there is a real lack of cameras in the price range I am looking at with anything above 1/2000 sec. wish list not a full SLR 10x optical zoom (6x min) fast enough shutter speed for bike pics 4MP min good quality optics capable of taking screw on adaptors and filters full manual operation aswell as auto AA Batteries preferable hot shoe not concerned with movie mode on board effects digital zoom top of the list is the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html with its 1/16,000 sec shutter speed Fuji S7000 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/s7000.html 1/10,000 sec then the cheaper side of things and a little more realistic Olympus c750, (or 770) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/c750uz.html 1/1000 sec  Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ10 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/fz10.html 1/2000 sec and heaps of others in the 1/1000 to 2/2000 ranges like the new Fuji's ta Marty H 
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September 21st 04, 08:01 AM
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Marty H wrote:
First of all "newbie alert!" ************************************************** * short version would 1/2000 sec shutter speed be fast nought for taking motorcycle pics seeing this one was taken at 1/1000 http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned I've frozen the rotor blades on a hovering helicopter with only the slightest blur at the tips, at 1/1000... 1/2000 should fast enough to capture a Larry King marriage in its entirety.
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September 21st 04, 11:25 PM
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:51:13 +1000, "Marty H"
wrote: First of all "newbie alert!" ************************************************* ** short version would 1/2000 sec shutter speed be fast nought for taking motorcycle pics Yes, more than fast enough. seeing this one was taken at 1/1000 http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned Panning at these speeds are the tricky part there are heaps of cameras in my price range (in Australia so prices around the Olympus c770) that will do 1/1000 or 1/2000 max I don't want to buy a camera that doesn't do what I want it to do, but as a hobby only don't want to pay over the top for camera that I cant afford (i.e SLR) could stretch to the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html which is what I would really love, but it could be a little big for carring around on the bike ta Marty H ************************************************* ************ long version be mucking around with digital camera for about 2 years but still consider myself a newbie, my work can be seen at www.martyh.com shameless plug must of this stuff is up on the web for the people who I converse with on the net who couldn't be at the event, not as a display of my lack of talent most photos taken by a Kodak dx3215 1.3mp (mine) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/dx3215.html some taken by Sony FD 97 2.1mp (great camera for its day IMHO), love its optical zoom (employer's) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/fd97.html pics @ http://www.martyh.com/motoshow/index.htm and some by a Sony DSC-S75, lacks the optical zoom (ex-gf's) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/s75.html pics @ http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/index.htm also a played with the Olympus c750, http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/c750uz.html both my boss and workmate have this camera and are wrapped with it, so am I except the shutter speed, hence the main reason of this post as you can see most of my picture taking is centred around Motorcycles and downside to taking pictures of motorcycles and they sometimes go fast, there inst many photos of moving bikes because none of them came out (esp with the Kodak) http://www.martyh.com/eildon_we_2002...es/image29.htm that image was taken at 1/250, F8, ISO 100 and the bike doning approx 50mph/80kph both the Kodak and Olympus run a max 1/1000 shutter, but the Olympus has a F2.8 aperture compared with the Kodak's F4.5, http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned I think I just answered my on question with that last photo, is 1/1000 going to be fast enough?? no? what about 1/2000, there is a real lack of cameras in the price range I am looking at with anything above 1/2000 sec. wish list not a full SLR 10x optical zoom (6x min) fast enough shutter speed for bike pics 4MP min good quality optics capable of taking screw on adaptors and filters full manual operation aswell as auto AA Batteries preferable hot shoe not concerned with movie mode on board effects digital zoom top of the list is the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html with its 1/16,000 sec shutter speed Fuji S7000 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/s7000.html 1/10,000 sec then the cheaper side of things and a little more realistic Olympus c750, (or 770) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/c750uz.html 1/1000 sec Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ10 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/fz10.html 1/2000 sec and heaps of others in the 1/1000 to 2/2000 ranges like the new Fuji's ta Marty H
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September 21st 04, 11:25 PM
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:51:13 +1000, "Marty H"
wrote: First of all "newbie alert!" ************************************************* ** short version would 1/2000 sec shutter speed be fast nought for taking motorcycle pics Yes, more than fast enough. seeing this one was taken at 1/1000 http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned Panning at these speeds are the tricky part there are heaps of cameras in my price range (in Australia so prices around the Olympus c770) that will do 1/1000 or 1/2000 max I don't want to buy a camera that doesn't do what I want it to do, but as a hobby only don't want to pay over the top for camera that I cant afford (i.e SLR) could stretch to the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html which is what I would really love, but it could be a little big for carring around on the bike ta Marty H ************************************************* ************ long version be mucking around with digital camera for about 2 years but still consider myself a newbie, my work can be seen at www.martyh.com shameless plug must of this stuff is up on the web for the people who I converse with on the net who couldn't be at the event, not as a display of my lack of talent most photos taken by a Kodak dx3215 1.3mp (mine) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/dx3215.html some taken by Sony FD 97 2.1mp (great camera for its day IMHO), love its optical zoom (employer's) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/fd97.html pics @ http://www.martyh.com/motoshow/index.htm and some by a Sony DSC-S75, lacks the optical zoom (ex-gf's) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/s75.html pics @ http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/index.htm also a played with the Olympus c750, http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/c750uz.html both my boss and workmate have this camera and are wrapped with it, so am I except the shutter speed, hence the main reason of this post as you can see most of my picture taking is centred around Motorcycles and downside to taking pictures of motorcycles and they sometimes go fast, there inst many photos of moving bikes because none of them came out (esp with the Kodak) http://www.martyh.com/eildon_we_2002...es/image29.htm that image was taken at 1/250, F8, ISO 100 and the bike doning approx 50mph/80kph both the Kodak and Olympus run a max 1/1000 shutter, but the Olympus has a F2.8 aperture compared with the Kodak's F4.5, http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned I think I just answered my on question with that last photo, is 1/1000 going to be fast enough?? no? what about 1/2000, there is a real lack of cameras in the price range I am looking at with anything above 1/2000 sec. wish list not a full SLR 10x optical zoom (6x min) fast enough shutter speed for bike pics 4MP min good quality optics capable of taking screw on adaptors and filters full manual operation aswell as auto AA Batteries preferable hot shoe not concerned with movie mode on board effects digital zoom top of the list is the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html with its 1/16,000 sec shutter speed Fuji S7000 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/s7000.html 1/10,000 sec then the cheaper side of things and a little more realistic Olympus c750, (or 770) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/c750uz.html 1/1000 sec Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ10 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/fz10.html 1/2000 sec and heaps of others in the 1/1000 to 2/2000 ranges like the new Fuji's ta Marty H
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September 21st 04, 11:25 PM
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:51:13 +1000, "Marty H"
wrote: First of all "newbie alert!" ************************************************* ** short version would 1/2000 sec shutter speed be fast nought for taking motorcycle pics Yes, more than fast enough. seeing this one was taken at 1/1000 http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned Panning at these speeds are the tricky part there are heaps of cameras in my price range (in Australia so prices around the Olympus c770) that will do 1/1000 or 1/2000 max I don't want to buy a camera that doesn't do what I want it to do, but as a hobby only don't want to pay over the top for camera that I cant afford (i.e SLR) could stretch to the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html which is what I would really love, but it could be a little big for carring around on the bike ta Marty H ************************************************* ************ long version be mucking around with digital camera for about 2 years but still consider myself a newbie, my work can be seen at www.martyh.com shameless plug must of this stuff is up on the web for the people who I converse with on the net who couldn't be at the event, not as a display of my lack of talent most photos taken by a Kodak dx3215 1.3mp (mine) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/dx3215.html some taken by Sony FD 97 2.1mp (great camera for its day IMHO), love its optical zoom (employer's) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/fd97.html pics @ http://www.martyh.com/motoshow/index.htm and some by a Sony DSC-S75, lacks the optical zoom (ex-gf's) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2001_reviews/s75.html pics @ http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/index.htm also a played with the Olympus c750, http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/c750uz.html both my boss and workmate have this camera and are wrapped with it, so am I except the shutter speed, hence the main reason of this post as you can see most of my picture taking is centred around Motorcycles and downside to taking pictures of motorcycles and they sometimes go fast, there inst many photos of moving bikes because none of them came out (esp with the Kodak) http://www.martyh.com/eildon_we_2002...es/image29.htm that image was taken at 1/250, F8, ISO 100 and the bike doning approx 50mph/80kph both the Kodak and Olympus run a max 1/1000 shutter, but the Olympus has a F2.8 aperture compared with the Kodak's F4.5, http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned I think I just answered my on question with that last photo, is 1/1000 going to be fast enough?? no? what about 1/2000, there is a real lack of cameras in the price range I am looking at with anything above 1/2000 sec. wish list not a full SLR 10x optical zoom (6x min) fast enough shutter speed for bike pics 4MP min good quality optics capable of taking screw on adaptors and filters full manual operation aswell as auto AA Batteries preferable hot shoe not concerned with movie mode on board effects digital zoom top of the list is the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html with its 1/16,000 sec shutter speed Fuji S7000 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/s7000.html 1/10,000 sec then the cheaper side of things and a little more realistic Olympus c750, (or 770) http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/c750uz.html 1/1000 sec Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ10 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/fz10.html 1/2000 sec and heaps of others in the 1/1000 to 2/2000 ranges like the new Fuji's ta Marty H
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September 22nd 04, 12:30 AM
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Marty H wrote:
First of all "newbie alert!" ************************************************** * short version would 1/2000 sec shutter speed be fast nought for taking motorcycle pics seeing this one was taken at 1/1000 http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned there are heaps of cameras in my price range (in Australia so prices around the Olympus c770) that will do 1/1000 or 1/2000 max I don't want to buy a camera that doesn't do what I want it to do, but as a hobby only don't want to pay over the top for camera that I cant afford (i.e SLR) not concerned with movie mode on board effects digital zoom top of the list is the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html with its 1/16,000 sec shutter speed Fuji S7000 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/s7000.html 1/10,000 sec then the cheaper side of things and a little more realistic Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ10 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/fz10.html 1/2000 sec and heaps of others in the 1/1000 to 2/2000 ranges like the new Fuji's ta Marty H Hi Marty, Make sure you get one with manual focus. Most of the non DSLRs have trouble auto focusing on moving objects. I think the Panasonic FZ10 is definitely worth a look and is a much better camera thatn the Fuji S7000. -- Ben Thomas Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.
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September 22nd 04, 12:30 AM
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Marty H wrote:
First of all "newbie alert!" ************************************************** * short version would 1/2000 sec shutter speed be fast nought for taking motorcycle pics seeing this one was taken at 1/1000 http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned there are heaps of cameras in my price range (in Australia so prices around the Olympus c770) that will do 1/1000 or 1/2000 max I don't want to buy a camera that doesn't do what I want it to do, but as a hobby only don't want to pay over the top for camera that I cant afford (i.e SLR) not concerned with movie mode on board effects digital zoom top of the list is the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html with its 1/16,000 sec shutter speed Fuji S7000 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/s7000.html 1/10,000 sec then the cheaper side of things and a little more realistic Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ10 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/fz10.html 1/2000 sec and heaps of others in the 1/1000 to 2/2000 ranges like the new Fuji's ta Marty H Hi Marty, Make sure you get one with manual focus. Most of the non DSLRs have trouble auto focusing on moving objects. I think the Panasonic FZ10 is definitely worth a look and is a much better camera thatn the Fuji S7000. -- Ben Thomas Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.
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September 22nd 04, 02:47 AM
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In article , says...
First of all "newbie alert!" ************************************************* ** short version would 1/2000 sec shutter speed be fast nought for taking motorcycle pics seeing this one was taken at 1/1000 http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned there are heaps of cameras in my price range (in Australia so prices around the Olympus c770) that will do 1/1000 or 1/2000 max I don't want to buy a camera that doesn't do what I want it to do, but as a hobby only don't want to pay over the top for camera that I cant afford (i.e SLR) could stretch to the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html which is what I would really love, but it could be a little big for carring around on the bike ta It depends. In most cases yes. If the axis of the lens is perpendicular to the action, and the speed of the cycle is very high, maybe not. The closer "on- axis" your subject is, the better you can stop that action. Also, if you are shooting jumps, a little pan will usually capture the cycle at its apex at 1/ 2000 very nicely. The forward speed will still be significant, but you will follow that, and capture the bike, as it hangs in the air. Hunt
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September 22nd 04, 02:47 AM
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In article , says...
First of all "newbie alert!" ************************************************* ** short version would 1/2000 sec shutter speed be fast nought for taking motorcycle pics seeing this one was taken at 1/1000 http://www.martyh.com/sbk04/imagepages/image41.htm taken with the DSC-S75 3x optical and 2x digital 1/1000 F6.3 IS0 100 bike doing 135mph+/220kph+, camera heavily panned there are heaps of cameras in my price range (in Australia so prices around the Olympus c770) that will do 1/1000 or 1/2000 max I don't want to buy a camera that doesn't do what I want it to do, but as a hobby only don't want to pay over the top for camera that I cant afford (i.e SLR) could stretch to the Minolta DiMAGE A1 http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a1.html which is what I would really love, but it could be a little big for carring around on the bike ta It depends. In most cases yes. If the axis of the lens is perpendicular to the action, and the speed of the cycle is very high, maybe not. The closer "on- axis" your subject is, the better you can stop that action. Also, if you are shooting jumps, a little pan will usually capture the cycle at its apex at 1/ 2000 very nicely. The forward speed will still be significant, but you will follow that, and capture the bike, as it hangs in the air. Hunt
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