Microsoft JPEG Hoax!

In article , Mxsmanic
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nospam writes:

the unix portion of mac os x is entirely open source.

For now.

you can speculate all you want, but there is no evidence to suggest it
is going to change.

they are shared. the typical family buys ONE computer and everyone
shares.

Then it's not really a personal computer, is it?

since only one person can use it at one time, yes.

In article , Mxsmanic
wrote:

nospam writes:

there are some *major* differences among guis.

They are far more similar than different.

only at a superficial level.

apple had and still has a *lot* of liquid cash in the bank.

Microsoft has a lot more.

whether they do or not is irrelevant. apple had and still has 4+
billion which is more than enough to pay for r&d.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Now - what OS do you propose to use here - your
imaginary server OS (that can handle multiple users)
or your imaginary desktop OS (that can't)?

Either would do, although the current arrangement sounds fine.

Of course, a computer connected to a projector is not a desktop
computer.


And it certainly is no server computer. So - what is it?


/Roland

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Which one is that?

FreeBSD

Nice choice - a stable and reliabel work horse.

Modern OS's don't use "integrated GUIs".

Sure they do. Windows NT-based systems have been moving in that
direction for a long time, and NT 4.0 was a major step in that
direction, moving certain GUI functions from a subsystem to the kernel.

I think you overestimate integrating the GUI, just
as Microsoft do. It is not neccessary to do so.

The old Mac OS had an integrated GUI, but it was hardly an OS.

The new Mac OS does not have any integrated GUI, but it is a real OS.

Both have the same look and feel for most users.

For most users the underlaying implementation technique is not important.


/Roland

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:56:40 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:

Ray Fischer writes:

Which one is that?

FreeBSD

Modern OS's don't use "integrated GUIs".

Sure they do. Windows NT-based systems have been moving in that
direction for a long time, and NT 4.0 was a major step in that
direction, moving certain GUI functions from a subsystem to the kernel.

Could you elaborate please? I can run an NT4 system with no GUI at all, if
needed.

--
John Bean

The computing field is always in need of new cliches (Alan Perlis)

nospam wrote:
In article , Mxsmanic
wrote:


nospam writes:

they are shared. the typical family buys ONE computer and everyone
shares.

Then it's not really a personal computer, is it?


since only one person can use it at one time, yes.

The PC was given that name to distinguish it from the centralized
corporate versions of computing via desktop workstations.

Its meaning has now morphed to generally mean a Windows machine,
excluding Mac and 'Nix or any other OS than 'Doze, regardless of how
singularly they are used.

The strict literal meaning of "personal" as completely proprietary never
was, and it looks like it isn't going to be.
--

John McWilliams

nospam writes:

what kind of computer is it ?

It's a dedicated client machine, usually.

especially if its the *same* type of
computer that the employees have on their desks?

Not relevant.

is it a personal computer if its in an office but not
in a conference room?

It is a personal computer if it is used by one person for his own
general-purpose computing.

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nospam writes:

what kind of computer is it ?

It's a dedicated client machine, usually.

especially if its the *same* type of
computer that the employees have on their desks?

Not relevant.

is it a personal computer if its in an office but not
in a conference room?

It is a personal computer if it is used by one person for his own
general-purpose computing.

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nospam writes:

you can speculate all you want, but there is no evidence to suggest it
is going to change.

IT history suggests it will change. Wait and see.

since only one person can use it at one time, yes.

Only one person can use a telephone booth at one time, but that doesn't
make it a personal telephone.

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Roland Karlsson writes:

Nice choice - a stable and reliabel work horse.

That has been my experience thus far. The developers are the usual
angry young males, which is probably the biggest disadvantage to using
the OS (especially for enterprise use), but the OS itself is nice.

I think you overestimate integrating the GUI, just
as Microsoft do. It is not neccessary to do so.

It depends on exactly what you want the GUI to do, and how fast you want
it done.

The old Mac OS had an integrated GUI, but it was hardly an OS.

The new Mac OS does not have any integrated GUI, but it is a real OS.

What makes an OS "real"?

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