is it a forgone conclusion...

that this ng will be irrelevant in a year or so? i certainly hope not, but
film seems to be dieing a slow, painful death.

i'm 43, and it sucks to think that in a decade, or less, that film--as we
knew it--will be gone.

bummer, dude....

On 2/24/2005 12:42 AM Joe Mama spake thus:

that this ng will be irrelevant in a year or so? i certainly hope not, but
film seems to be dieing a slow, painful death.

i'm 43, and it sucks to think that in a decade, or less, that film--as we
knew it--will be gone.

bummer, dude....

Maybe not (gone, that is). Like the famous statement attributed to Mark Twain:
"the news of my recent demise is premature".

Film can still do some stuff that digital can't (or can't do as well).
Probably will for the forseeable future.


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Joe Mama wrote:
that this ng will be irrelevant in a year or so? i certainly hope not, but
film seems to be dieing a slow, painful death.

i'm 43, and it sucks to think that in a decade, or less, that film--as we
knew it--will be gone.

bummer, dude....



Why are people so keen to "predict" the death of film? What evidence do
you have to support this?

OK, so more and more digital bodies are being sold, but there is still a
lot of film bodies still out there. Why has Fuji just announced three
new films? Why are film scanners still being announced? Large format
film is still available, although there are few users of that. Why have
Ilford just been rescued with a management buy out?

What about the death of B&W when colour hit mainstream?

Film might become harder to get hold of, with consumer print film
becoming more difficult to get hold of, but I reckon slide & B&W film
will still be readily available for some time to come.

Steve

Steven Kefford wrote:
new films? Why are film scanners still being announced? Large format
film is still available, although there are few users of that. Why have

There are few users of LF film, but they are the least likely to go
digital :-)

Therefore I predict a long and healty life for this NG, even though
there will likely be fewer roll film users present as time marches on.

Bob

bob wrote:
Steven Kefford wrote:

new films? Why are film scanners still being announced? Large format
film is still available, although there are few users of that. Why have


There are few users of LF film, but they are the least likely to go
digital :-)

Therefore I predict a long and healty life for this NG, even though
there will likely be fewer roll film users present as time marches on.

Bob

Absolutley. I am one of those who has gone from digital to LF. Well not
totally true, as I still do digital, and have not yet exposed a single
sheet of LF, as I have only had it a few days. Film is still well and
truly alive, and will be so for a considerable time to come.

Steve

"Steven Kefford" ""keff.antispam\"@ f2s.com" wrote

Absolutley. I am one of those who has gone from digital to LF. Well not
totally true, as I still do digital, and have not yet exposed a single
sheet of LF, as I have only had it a few days. Film is still well and
truly alive, and will be so for a considerable time to come.

Yea! A convert! Ring the Bells! Glory to the Trinity! Praise Allah!
Slaughter a goat (er, can we make that an Angus, a nice young tender one...).

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Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
"Steven Kefford" ""keff.antispam\"@ f2s.com" wrote


Absolutley. I am one of those who has gone from digital to LF. Well not
totally true, as I still do digital, and have not yet exposed a single
sheet of LF, as I have only had it a few days. Film is still well and
truly alive, and will be so for a considerable time to come.


Yea! A convert! Ring the Bells! Glory to the Trinity! Praise Allah!
Slaughter a goat (er, can we make that an Angus, a nice young tender one...).


Yeah, here's another one. Well, I'm just learning, doing a course based
on (at the moment) MF and LF. I've actually only posted here twice after
discovering the group the day before yesterday (: I'm back in the
darkroom and I'm really looking forward to getting into it more and
producing some nice B&W prints! Previously I'd used colour film and had
a lab do all the 'work' for me, then I moved exclusively to digital SLR
work, and now I'm back again to film, hopefully mostly LF and MF. I thik
that means i'm going kinda backwards and sideways (:

Scott.

Yea! A convert! Ring the Bells! Glory to the Trinity! Praise Allah!
Slaughter a goat (er, can we make that an Angus, a nice young tender
one...).

I'm another film convert. I started with a digital, moved up a couple of
models, and then finally realised that the resolution of film is much better
if you use a large enough format, not to mention the better dynamic range.

On top of it all, I've yet to find a way of making digital prints that are
good quality, relatively easy to make, and cheap. Lightjets still cost
$100,000, and even high quality inkjets cost a lot per print, and I'm not
wowed by the quality, either.

I still love digital and use it for a lot of stuff, but I sure wouldn't call
it superior. I will be very grumpy if large format film stops being
available.

Ewan

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:30:38 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan"
wrote:

"Steven Kefford" ""keff.antispam\"@ f2s.com" wrote

Absolutley. I am one of those who has gone from digital to LF. Well not
totally true, as I still do digital, and have not yet exposed a single
sheet of LF, as I have only had it a few days. Film is still well and
truly alive, and will be so for a considerable time to come.

Yea! A convert! Ring the Bells! Glory to the Trinity! Praise Allah!
Slaughter a goat (er, can we make that an Angus, a nice young tender one...).


feb2605 from Lloyd Erlick,

Slaughtering an Argus might be more appropriate ...

regards,
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Boy, I go away for a few years, poke in every once in a while and see
nothing that doesnt depress me, and then I come see this thread. Its
the most encouraging thing I've seen in years, makes me want to pick up
my LF camera and fire up the darkroom for the first time since 2002 or
so ( I too, have been too depressed and deprived of inspiration by the
revolution). People are now coming from digital to film? I must be
dreaming.