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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
"Andre G. Isaak" wrote
| What I mean would be most apparent if you open the font in a | font-editing program such as FontLab and look at the actual outlines. | The lowercase o and u would be good characters to look at. His sample looks good to me. When I downloaded the font it also looked reasonably good in editors. I think the problem with his sample is that it has a dark outline around the letters, which makes the anti-aliasing visibly choppy. But presumably that has a good effect when read from a distance. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
In article , Chaya Eve
wrote: macs use industry standard fonts, which means that no matter what font you choose, it will work on either platform. A road-sign font is a specific type of font for a specific use. so what? macs can use any font. macs could use multiple fonts before windows even existed. If you know of better common slide-editing software, let us know. you aren't making slides. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
In article , Mayayana
wrote: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/02/t...chers-tech.htm l | | (Requires cookies enabled.) | | no it doesn't. | Interesting. For years I've had to switch to a cookie-eating browser at NYT because otherwise it would send me to a login page. Maybe they've finally given up on trying to make the public believe their paper is so special that people will pay to see the online version. some ny times links do, some do not. that one does not. | technology in schools is a *very* good thing. | A good demonstration of assumptions with no thought, no reasoning, and not even a context for your belief. Merely a blind belief swallowed whole because you've heard it said numerous times and weren't paying attention. Your whole case is merely a reflex ejaculation of, "Is so!". wrong. Too bad you weren't joking. i'm not joking. kids need to learn technology because they'll be using it their entire life, and far more sophisticated technology than what exists today. | those kids will be growing up in a world with all sorts of technology | that people today can't even imagine, and they *need* to know how it | all works. | They will need to know. In grade school they need to learn to read, relate to their fellow students, bounce a ball, run outside, draw a picture, and generally train their bodies. They're at a stage of relating to the world on a mainly physical level. They don't need to learn how to navigate Twitter. They'll learn that with their friends, anyway. they aren't learning how to navigate twitter, which doesn't take much learning anyway. they're at a stage where they can absorb a tremendous amount of knowledge and do things adults think is impossible. Worse, when they're taught to navigate Twitter they're not also taught to block ads, do advanced search, or otherwise use computers as tools. They're taught to use them as consumption devices. That's all that their tech-shill teacher knows. absolutely wrong. many kids that age are learning how to program and write apps, some of which are available on the app store, for ios and android. https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/01/tynker-app-kids-apple-swift/ ...Tynker, a company that creates self-paced and school-based coding lessons for kids, has partnered up with Apple's Everyone Can Code program to provide two new courses for students in Kindergarten to 5th grade the youngest person at apple's developer conference last year was *nine* *years* *old*, who had been writing apps since she was *seven*, with *two* apps on the app store. https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...-youngest-app- developer/85951908/ She started coding at age 7 by watching YouTube instructional videos, and was motivated to make an app to teach her younger sister how to identify the names of animals. She used Xcode, an Apple program for creating mobile apps, and has seen a "few hundred" downloads. another prodigy: https://fossbytes.com/tanmay-bakshi-youngest-app-developer/ Tanmay*Bakshi, who lives in Canada, is the worldıs youngest IBM Watson*programmer. To my surprise, he started coding at a very young*age of five. Tanmay has developed an algorithm called ³AskTanmay², which is designed by taking assistance from*IBM Watsonıs cognitive APIs. Itıs the worldıs first Web-Based NLQA system. .... He is currently in seventh grade and a co-author of a book called Hello Swift, which teaches the basics of iOS coding to the young learners. the world needs more kids like that, which is why introducing them to technology at an early age is *very* important. rest of your delusional bull**** snipped. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
"nospam" wrote
| Worse, when they're taught to navigate Twitter | they're not also taught to block ads, do advanced | search, or otherwise use computers as tools. | They're taught to use them as consumption devices. | That's all that their tech-shill teacher knows. | absolutely wrong. So you didn't read the article. Who needs information when they have opinions, right? It just confuses things. | the world needs more kids like that, which is why introducing them to | technology at an early age is *very* important. | Needs more kids like.... the current crop of tech geniuses, who can't make their own lunch or hold a conversation without having a tantrum, but are great contributors to the Linux kernel? A few people like that are fine. Unfortunate for them, but good for society. But that's not the majority, or even a notable minority. You're talking about rare savants. The vast majority will not need to understand tech. Even less so than we do. Just as very few people can change their car oil today. They don't need to. They only need to know how to drive. Part of the problem here is that tech people in general are very poorly socialized. They become expert at C++ while living on soda and candy bars, playing childish video games in their spare time. They think coding-kids is important because it's all they know themselves. Tech may breed more narrow-minded arrogance and lopsided individuals than any other field. (Well, maybe artists are worse.) So now we have a big push for STEM. Like all the kids in the 60s who were going to be astronauts. You and others fall for the hype hook, line and sinker. But the kids are not being taught proper literacy, psychology, history, or life basics like how to read a nutritional label or what to use to clean a blood stain from a new shirt. We're not turning out competent human beings who know how to reflect and analyze. At best we'll turn out more technicians who live in their parents' basement and are addicted to video games. Then they'll be killed crossing the street at the age of 17 because they were busy on their cellphones. That's already happening. They don't ned to learn how to use tech. They know that. They need to learn how to not use it and actually live in the world. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
In article , Mayayana
wrote: | Worse, when they're taught to navigate Twitter | they're not also taught to block ads, do advanced | search, or otherwise use computers as tools. | They're taught to use them as consumption devices. | That's all that their tech-shill teacher knows. | absolutely wrong. So you didn't read the article. i did. Who needs information when they have opinions, right? It just confuses things. you lead the way on that one. | the world needs more kids like that, which is why introducing them to | technology at an early age is *very* important. | Needs more kids like.... the current crop of tech geniuses, who can't make their own lunch or hold a conversation without having a tantrum, but are great contributors to the Linux kernel? you have a very limited social circle. A few people like that are fine. Unfortunate for them, but good for society. But that's not the majority, or even a notable minority. You're talking about rare savants. right now it might be rare for a 7 year old to write an app that's on the app store, but in the future, not so much. The vast majority will not need to understand tech. Even less so than we do. Just as very few people can change their car oil today. They don't need to. They only need to know how to drive. people won't need to know how to drive in the future. not that very many people do now, but that's another discussion. Part of the problem here is that tech people in general are very poorly socialized. you lead the way on that too. They become expert at C++ while living on soda and candy bars, playing childish video games in their spare time. which game do you play the most? They think coding-kids is important because it's all they know themselves. Tech may breed more narrow-minded arrogance and lopsided individuals than any other field. (Well, maybe artists are worse.) nonsense. So now we have a big push for STEM. Like all the kids in the 60s who were going to be astronauts. You and others fall for the hype hook, line and sinker. But the kids are not being taught proper literacy, psychology, history, or life basics like how to read a nutritional label or what to use to clean a blood stain from a new shirt. good point. kids need to be taught how to murder others without splattering blood all over everything. then they won't need to clean their shirts. We're not turning out competent human beings who know how to reflect and analyze. with you as a prime example. At best we'll turn out more technicians who live in their parents' basement and are addicted to video games. Then they'll be killed crossing the street at the age of 17 because they were busy on their cellphones. That's already happening. They don't ned to learn how to use tech. They know that. They need to learn how to not use it and actually live in the world. if they're killed at 17, then the younger siblings get the basement to themselves. a win-win for everyone. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:30:03 -0400, Mayayana
wrote: I thought the DIN idea might be a good one to solve the Mac font problem. It does seem to be used in traffic signs. But on looking it up it wasn't clear that there was a free version for Windows. The font itself is out of copyright, but someone who creates a font file has rights to that. I think you're on to the right approach which is to find a commonly found free road sign font that is also found on both the Mac and on Windows. I never said I was a font expert so I had to look up what you meant by "DIN" where I think you specifically mean DIN 1451. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1451 The key sentence I think you wanted me to see in that description is: "In 2017, Microsoft announced that it would be including in future Windows versions "Bahnschrift", a digitisation of DIN 1451 as an OpenType variable font." Further searches reveal the Microsoft Bahnschrift announcement: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...uild-16273-pc/ "What˘s New in Build 16273 For PC Introducing the Bahnschrift font Bahnschrift is our own rendition of the DIN font standard. Apart from being the standard road sign font in Germany and much of Europe, DIN is frequently used by graphic designers for its high legibility and clean, hard-working design style." This means that the font capabilities on Windows are even better than we at first thought, since we no longer even need to embed the font into the PowerPoint presentation (although it's a good idea to embed it just in case people aren't on the latest Windows 10 version). Do any Mac experts know when the DIN 1451 Bahnschrift road-sign font will be available by Apple for the Mac? |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:23:26 -0400, nospam wrote:
A road-sign font is a specific type of font for a specific use. so what? macs can use any font. The problem so far is that the Mac is far less capable than Windows in every way we look when it comes to font usefulness and compatibility. For example, Mayayana found the DIN 1451 font already in Windows 10: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1451 "In 2017, Microsoft announced that it would be including in future Windows versions "Bahnschrift", a digitisation of DIN 1451 as an OpenType variable font." I easily found the Microsoft Bahnschrift announcement: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...uild-16273-pc/ "What's New in Build 16273 For PC Introducing the Bahnschrift font Bahnschrift is our own rendition of the DIN font standard. Apart from being the standard road sign font in Germany and much of Europe, DIN is frequently used by graphic designers for its high legibility and clean, hard-working design style." So every direction we turn, the Mac is less functional and less compatible than is Windows and PowerPoint alike. * Windows comes with a standard road-sign font; the Mac does not. * Windows PPT can embed fonts; the Mac PPT can't. * Windwos PPT can read a document with embedded fonts; the Mac PPT can't. We easily met our functionality and compatibility goal with Windows. So far, compatibility is impossible on the Mac. If you know of a native Mac road-sign font, then prove that wrong. Please. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
In article , Chaya Eve
wrote: The problem so far is that the Mac is far less capable than Windows in every way we look when it comes to font usefulness and compatibility. nonsense. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 09:33:49 -0400, Mayayana
wrote: His sample looks good to me. When I downloaded the font it also looked reasonably good in editors. I think the problem with his sample is that it has a dark outline around the letters, which makes the anti-aliasing visibly choppy. But presumably that has a good effect when read from a distance. The goal is functionality and compatibility. * Functionality: Only a road-sign specific font will have it. * Compatibility: Only the Mac is a problem in compatibility. I'd love for one of these Mac people to prove me wrong but the Mac: * Can't embed the font in PowerPoint, and, * Can't even read an embedded front in PowerPoint, and, * Doesn't ship with a road-sign font native. On the other hand, Windows easily kills the Mac in functionality in that: * It can embed any font we choose into the PowerPoint, and, * It can read any PowerPoint with the font already embedded, and, * It ships with a road-sign font native. In all ways, the Mac is the problem in that it doesn't have the functionality or the compatibility that Windows has. If only the Mac shipped with a road-sign specific font, then it would be at least partly functional and compatible with respect to road-sign fonts. I would LOVE for a Mac user to prove that statements wrong by telling us: * Which font ships with Mac that is expressly for road signs, and , * Whether that font is also shipping on Windows native. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 12:18:02 -0400, nospam wrote:
nonsense. The goal is functionality and compatibility. * Functionality: Only a road-sign specific font will have it. * Compatibility: Only the Mac is a problem in compatibility. I'd love for one of these Mac people to prove me wrong but the Mac: * Can't embed the font in PowerPoint, and, * Can't even read an embedded front in PowerPoint, and, * Doesn't ship with a road-sign font native. On the other hand, Windows easily kills the Mac in functionality in that: * It can embed any font we choose into the PowerPoint, and, * It can read any PowerPoint with the font already embedded, and, * It ships with a road-sign font native. In all ways, the Mac is the problem in that it doesn't have the functionality or the compatibility that Windows has. If only the Mac shipped with a road-sign specific font, then it would be at least partly functional and compatible with respect to road-sign fonts. I would LOVE for a Mac user to prove that statements wrong by telling us: * Which font ships with Mac that is expressly for road signs, and , * Whether that font is also shipping on Windows native. |
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