Why when I save a photo from photobucket, it's not a JPEG?

When I save a photo from photobucket, its "corrupted" half the time.
The other half the time it works.
Why?

On 2015-04-12 22:46:17 +0000, Don Phillipson said:

When I save a photo from photobucket, its "corrupted" half the time.
The other half the time it works.
Why?

Are you trying to download/save your image files, or the files of
others from Photobucket?

Are you trying to download images somebody is sharing with you?

What method are you using to download & save image files from Photobucket?

From what I can see, if you look on the right side of a photo page you
should see *Options* there you will find *Download* click on that and
the small display image will download as a pretty small, low quality
jpeg. To get the larger, better quality image files you are going to
have to pay the asking price.

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Regards,

Savageduck

Don Phillipson wrote:
When I save a photo from photobucket, its "corrupted" half the time.
The other half the time it works.
Why?

Provide a link to the one you're having trouble with.

Calculate md5sum or sha1sum on the image, and
present the details. If you don't have tools,
you can try uploading the image to virustotal.com
and have the value calculated there.

Another question would be about your hardware.
Do you have an NVidia chipset motherboard ? That's
the Northbridge and Southbridge chip on the motherboard,
nothing to do with the video card or the company
that made the processor.

One of the NVidia chipsets had a LAN MAC (media access
controller) with fancy acceleration features. There
was some grumbling about a 32 bit corrupted word every
once in a while, on one of those chipsets they made. I
never did hear a resolution on root cause, whether
it could be patched at the driver level or other details
like that.

Other than that, you can try memtest86+ from memtest.org,
and test your RAM. Just in case a bit in the memory
has gone bad over time. I've had RAM fail a couple times,
after it was in usage for 1.5 years. On my current motherboard,
the Northbridge started to act up a couple years after
I bought the motherboard. All it took was boosting Vnb by
a fraction of a volt more, to restore memory stability.
No problems since. So even if you've tested the motherboard
thoroughly at T=0, the board can "age badly" and need
some tweaking later.

Paul

On 2015-04-12 22:46:17 +0000, Don Phillipson said:

When I save a photo from photobucket, its "corrupted" half the time.
The other half the time it works.
Why?

As this is my second response, I suggest that you check both of the
News Groups you X-Posted to.
In my initial response I wrote:

Are you trying to download/save your image files, or the files of
others from Photobucket?
Be aware you might be trying to download some protected files which
have to be paid for, and some which are shared openly as public domain.

Are you trying to download images somebody is sharing with you?

What method are you using to download & save image files from Photobucket?

From what I can see, if you look on the right side of a photo page you
should see *Options* there you will find *Download* click on that and
the small display image will download as a pretty small, low quality
jpeg. To get the larger, better quality image files you are going to
have to pay the asking price, or contact the owner of the image.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

Paul wrote in message

Provide a link to the one you're having trouble with.

It happens frequently, but it just happened today.

0. First I went to this thread:
http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...-at-112k-miles

1. Then, I tried to save the first picture by right clicking in Firefox
and selecting "View Image", which brings me to this photobucket url:
http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/Sm..._8321.jpg.html

2. I get a warning that I ignore about "Adobe Flash" because I have a blocker:
"Allow s1099.photobucket.com to run Adobe Flash?"

3. I right click on the picture in Firefox to select "Save image as":
/tmp/IMG_8321.jpg

4. I try to open the file by doubleclicking on it but I get the error:
Could not load image IMG_8321.jpg
Error interpreting JPEG image file
(Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x3c 0x21)

5. I run a checksum on that image:
$ md5sum IMG_8321.jpg
3bd1bbb33880e6f611aa7b6bb55290e5 IMG_8321.jpg

6. I run a "file" command on that image:
$ file IMG_8321.jpg
IMG_8321.jpg: HTML document, UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines, with CRLF, LF line terminator.

7. I try to upload that image to imgur.com for you:
Oh no! We encountered an error:
IMG_8321: Image format not supported, or image is corrupt.

8. I try to run Gimp on that image:
$ gimp IMG_8321.jpg
GIMP Message
Opening /tmp/IMG_8321.jpg failed:
JPEG image plug-In could not open image

9. Thinking that the Flash plugin is somehow involved, I accept the
"Allow" and the "Allow and Remember" Flash plugin questions back at
the photobucket web site:
http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/Sm..._8321.jpg.html

10. The same thing happens.
It "says" it's a JPEG image, and it saved as a JPEG image, but, it's
not a JPEG image (or it's a corrupted JPEG image).

What am I doing wrong?
Note that *some* photobucket files work just fine.
Some do. Some don't.

Why?

Savageduck wrote in message


Are you trying to download/save your image files, or the files of
others from Photobucket?

I do not have a photobucket account, so, these images are all the
files of others. They are mostly car forum images.

Some photobucket images download just fine.
But many do not.
Sometimes, even the same image sometimes downloads fine, but more often,
does not.

I just gave an example, but I repeat it here (shorter).

I tried just now to download one of the images in this thread:
http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...-at-112k-miles

They're all photobucket images, for example:
http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/Sm..._8332.jpg.html

If I right click on that image when the and arrows are there,
it saves to IMG_8332.jpg and when I right click when the arrows are
*not* there, it saves to the same file name (IMG_8332.jpg).

If I keep doing it, I eventually get a JPG file, maybe one out of
every three to five times.

$ file IMG_8332.jpg
IMG_8332.jpg: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.02

The rest of the time, I get a different answer:
$ file IMG_8332.jpg
IMG_8332.jpg: HTML document, UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines, with CRLF, LF line terminators

It's not consistent.

Don Phillipson wrote:
Paul wrote in message

Provide a link to the one you're having trouble with.

It happens frequently, but it just happened today.

0. First I went to this thread:
http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...-at-112k-miles

1. Then, I tried to save the first picture by right clicking in Firefox
and selecting "View Image", which brings me to this photobucket url:
http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/Sm..._8321.jpg.html

2. I get a warning that I ignore about "Adobe Flash" because I have a blocker:
"Allow s1099.photobucket.com to run Adobe Flash?"

3. I right click on the picture in Firefox to select "Save image as":
/tmp/IMG_8321.jpg

4. I try to open the file by doubleclicking on it but I get the error:
Could not load image IMG_8321.jpg
Error interpreting JPEG image file
(Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x3c 0x21)

5. I run a checksum on that image:
$ md5sum IMG_8321.jpg
3bd1bbb33880e6f611aa7b6bb55290e5 IMG_8321.jpg

6. I run a "file" command on that image:
$ file IMG_8321.jpg
IMG_8321.jpg: HTML document, UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines, with CRLF, LF line terminator.

7. I try to upload that image to imgur.com for you:
Oh no! We encountered an error:
IMG_8321: Image format not supported, or image is corrupt.

8. I try to run Gimp on that image:
$ gimp IMG_8321.jpg
GIMP Message
Opening /tmp/IMG_8321.jpg failed:
JPEG image plug-In could not open image

9. Thinking that the Flash plugin is somehow involved, I accept the
"Allow" and the "Allow and Remember" Flash plugin questions back at
the photobucket web site:
http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/Sm..._8321.jpg.html

10. The same thing happens.
It "says" it's a JPEG image, and it saved as a JPEG image, but, it's
not a JPEG image (or it's a corrupted JPEG image).

What am I doing wrong?
Note that *some* photobucket files work just fine.
Some do. Some don't.

Why?

If I quickly right-click the presented image and select
"View Image" from the context menu of Firefox (no flash installed),
I get this. (Note - most photo sites do not allow "direct linking"
and they will simply present the main page again, complete
with tons of JavaScript and pests. So no, clicking this
doesn't stop the madness. I'm just reporting the URL for the
fun of it. This URL has no magic characteristics.)

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/...j/IMG_8321.jpg

If I then do "Save as", I get

IMG_8321.jpg
134,935 bytes
(Opens in a photo editor)
With a hex editor, "JFIF" is present near the beginning.
There is no HTML code inside the file, indicating you're
getting something other than the image file.

If you wait long enough, that site loads all sorts of
horse****.

If I use a second browser, one with a Flash plugin, I
still have the opportunity to right-click and "View Image"
If I try to "Save Image", it kinda jams up, like it's
about to try to raise a popup window or something.

Conclusion:

1) Site is clever.
2) You must be a Ninja.
3) Right click image, and select "View Image".
The cleverness stops...
(Do not try "Save As" from that context menu.
Probably doesn't work.)
4) Now that your jangled nerves have settled, see
if you can save the now-stationary image.

All my attempts so far, have yielded consistent values.
First set, MD5SUM, second set SHA1SUM. File size 134,935 bytes.

8f037d4072542a088aae249ed55432da *IMG_8321(2).jpg
8f037d4072542a088aae249ed55432da *IMG_8321(3).jpg
8f037d4072542a088aae249ed55432da *IMG_8321(4).jpg
8f037d4072542a088aae249ed55432da *IMG_8321.jpg

986d2d16bda807b50059c654b1e4778b63ba7c8d IMG_8321(2).jpg
986d2d16bda807b50059c654b1e4778b63ba7c8d IMG_8321(3).jpg
986d2d16bda807b50059c654b1e4778b63ba7c8d IMG_8321(4).jpg
986d2d16bda807b50059c654b1e4778b63ba7c8d IMG_8321.jpg

Think like a Ninja.

HTH,
Paul

On 2015-04-13 01:23:32 +0000, Don Phillipson said:

Savageduck wrote in message


Are you trying to download/save your image files, or the files of
others from Photobucket?

I do not have a photobucket account, so, these images are all the
files of others. They are mostly car forum images.

Some photobucket images download just fine.
But many do not.
Sometimes, even the same image sometimes downloads fine, but more often,
does not.

I just gave an example, but I repeat it here (shorter).

I tried just now to download one of the images in this thread:
http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...-at-112k-miles


I tried right clicking and downloading several of those and experienced
no issues.

They're all photobucket images, for example:
http://s1099.photobucket.com/user/Sm..._8332.jpg.html

If I right click on that image when the and arrows are there,
it saves to IMG_8332.jpg and when I right click when the arrows are
*not* there, it saves to the same file name (IMG_8332.jpg).

OK! I have no problem right clicking on the image and downloading that
particular image file as a jpg, IMG_8332.jpg.
....but I am using a Mac, not a Linux machine.

If I keep doing it, I eventually get a JPG file, maybe one out of
every three to five times.

Why keep doing it then?

$ file IMG_8332.jpg
IMG_8332.jpg: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.02

The rest of the time, I get a different answer:
$ file IMG_8332.jpg
IMG_8332.jpg: HTML document, UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines,
with CRLF, LF line terminators

It's not consistent.

I do not use Photobucket, and I do not run a Linux machine,so I suspect
I am not going to be able to provide you with any advice you might find
useful. I have no issues downloading from either of those sources with
OSX.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

Tony Cooper wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:46:17 +0000 (UTC), Don Phillipson
wrote:

When I save a photo from photobucket, its "corrupted" half the time.
The other half the time it works.
Why?

Is it just images hosted by Photobucket? Having read through the
thread-to-date, it seems that the images can be successfully saved by
at least a Mac user (SavageDuck) and a Windows user (me), so it would
seem the problem is something involving either linux or Photobucket or
the combination.

You can eliminate two of those from consideration by telling us if
images hosted by other hosts (ie: Dropbox) do or do not cause the
same problem.

Without analysing the web page using "Save As" "Web Page Complete",
my guess is there is a bucketload of evil code on that page.

I have my best luck, by grabbing/manipulating the image before
the page is fully loaded.

Some image hosting sites sport a download button, making it
easy for the user to get the file, and easy to see that
the site intent is that the file be downloadable. Other
sites just seem to lack a download button, and it's up
to your wits (and Ninja-like reflexes), to get
what you want from the page.

Paul

On 2015-04-13 04:49:39 +0000, Paul said:

Tony Cooper wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:46:17 +0000 (UTC), Don Phillipson
wrote:

When I save a photo from photobucket, its "corrupted" half the time.
The other half the time it works.
Why?

Is it just images hosted by Photobucket? Having read through the
thread-to-date, it seems that the images can be successfully saved by
at least a Mac user (SavageDuck) and a Windows user (me), so it would
seem the problem is something involving either linux or Photobucket or
the combination.
You can eliminate two of those from consideration by telling us if
images hosted by other hosts (ie: Dropbox) do or do not cause the
same problem.

Without analysing the web page using "Save As" "Web Page Complete",
my guess is there is a bucketload of evil code on that page.

I have my best luck, by grabbing/manipulating the image before
the page is fully loaded.

Some image hosting sites sport a download button, making it
easy for the user to get the file, and easy to see that
the site intent is that the file be downloadable. Other
sites just seem to lack a download button, and it's up
to your wits (and Ninja-like reflexes), to get
what you want from the page.

Paul

If you look closely you will see that the Photobucket page has two
download buttons. So you can put the black pajamas away for a while.


--
Regards,

Savageduck