More for the Megapixel Debate.

On 9/28/2017 1:43 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On Sep 27, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 9/27/2017 6:39 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 11:04:14 +0200, wrote:

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Eric Stevens wrote:

On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:22:23 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

A little food for thought. How many megapixels do you need?
http://www.sebastianboatca.com/how-many-megapixels-do-you-need/

When I bought my D750 I made the deliberate decision to limit myself
to 24 MPx. Had I wanted to I could have bought a 45 MPx D850 but I
didn't see that I would benefit from the file size.

With a higher resolution you get more crop ability, less sharpening
artifacts and etc etc...

... and more susceptibility to my increasingly shaky hands.

It doesn't seem that long ago that I could hand hold my F3, with a 300mm
at 1/125 and get a reasonably sharp shot, that I enlarged to 8x12. If it
wasn't for VR I could not even come close. Now I must use a remote
release so I don't move the camera down when shooting.

If that was a firearm you were shooting, I would say that you were snatching,
or pulling the trigger. You need to develop some trigger, er, shutter release
discipline.

In my Army days, I had that. You may be right, but the electric remote
cable is doing its job.



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PeterN

On 9/28/2017 12:57 AM, Noons wrote:
On 27/09/2017 7:04 @wiz, android wrote:

lenses and skipping the AA will give you even more resolution... That
said: I really like my 8MP 1D2! :-))


Pah! Raise you the 10.2MP of my NikonD80!
Still going strong, still producing super saturated colour.

As I have posted before, my younger daughter does fine with her D70, and
her kit lens.

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PeterN

On 9/28/2017 10:17 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On Sep 28, 2017, nospam wrote
(in ) :

In iganews.com,
Savageduck wrote:


...and in my bag of tricks I still have a D70 that did well with 7.3 MP,

6mp

Yup! I plea brain fart.

and
a mediocre lens 12 years ago.

easily replaced

It was, but in 2005, the original Nikkor 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 VR was the only
VR lens in my kit, and it did the job surprisingly well on that helicopter
shoot.


Sometime In the late 70s I tested a Kenyon gyro stabilizer for a few
days. It worked really well with Kodachrome 64 from boats and planes.
Because the power came from a heavy lead acid battery, it was not
practical to carry around.


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On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 11:16:24 +0200, android wrote:

In article ,
Eric Stevens wrote:

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 00:37:51 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , android
wrote:


Seems you are posting everything twice.

he posts multiple times, cancelling each previous version every time he
makes a revision, knowing full well that most usenet servers do not
handle cancels, resulting in multiple posts to the reader.

Supersede is a part of the Usenet protocol that should be recognized by
a properly configured server...

except it isn't, and most do not.

Most also employ a time limit. Even from the original author the
supersede will be ignored if it does not arrive within some very short
time of the original posting.

But once an article has started to spread through the wider Internet
you wave goodbye to any chance of of superseding. That may mean you
have only seconds within which to change your mind.

Superseding means that the original article will be canceled and
replaced by a new one in the treads hierarchy.

Except that, as you already been told several times, most news servers
will ignore it. That's why your posts so often arrive in multiple
different copies.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 9/28/2017 3:16 AM, android wrote:
In article ,
Eric Stevens wrote:

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 00:37:51 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , android
wrote:


Seems you are posting everything twice.

he posts multiple times, cancelling each previous version every time he
makes a revision, knowing full well that most usenet servers do not
handle cancels, resulting in multiple posts to the reader.

Supersede is a part of the Usenet protocol that should be recognized by
a properly configured server...

except it isn't, and most do not.

Most also employ a time limit. Even from the original author the
supersede will be ignored if it does not arrive within some very short
time of the original posting.

But once an article has started to spread through the wider Internet
you wave goodbye to any chance of of superseding. That may mean you
have only seconds within which to change your mind.

Superseding means that the original article will be canceled and
replaced by a new one in the treads hierarchy.

FWIW, I didn't see any double posts.

Eric Stevens:
When I bought my D750 I made the deliberate decision to limit myself
to 24 MPx. Had I wanted to I could have bought a 45 MPx D850 but I
didn't see that I would benefit from the file size.

While I don't place pixel count first in choosing a camera, 24MP or
thereabouts works well enough for me. Ergonomics comes first and I like
the feel of Canon cameras.

5D Mark IV, 30MP
6d Mark II, 26MP
M5 (mirrorless), 24MP

Those are Canons, of course, but since this seems to be mostly about
Nikon, I should say that I have a Nikon D100, 6MP, that was my first
DSLR* and that I keep because I like to use the excellent 60mm Micro
Nikkor from time to time. No one ever looked at a Flickr photo or a
print from that camera and said "Gee, too bad it's only 6 megapixels."

*But not my first digital camera. That was the 1997 Kodak DC120, "the
first point-and-shoot megapixel quality digital camera under $1,000."

Alfred Molon:
My brother bought a D600 a while ago, then barely used it. Too big &
heavy, too hard to use it (he never managed to learn how to use it).

What was he using before? When I "upgrade" it tends to be in
evolutionary steps rather than revolutionary leaps; 5D Mark III to 5D
Mark IV, e.g. Not much to learn. In any case, even if a new camera is
very different to what one was using before, it is not necessary to
learn all of the features on day 1!

I have to say that the Mark IV with battery grip and, say, a 70-200
Ÿ2.8 is a heavy beast, but I generally use it on a really good tripod
and I have the lighter-weight cameras listed above, plus iPhone, for
walkabout.

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In article , Davoud says...
Alfred Molon:
My brother bought a D600 a while ago, then barely used it. Too big &
heavy, too hard to use it (he never managed to learn how to use it).

What was he using before?

He had a Nikon D300.
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http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

My brother bought a D600 a while ago, then barely used it. Too big &
heavy, too hard to use it (he never managed to learn how to use it).

What was he using before?

He had a Nikon D300.

then he should have felt at home with the d600.

On Sep 28, 2017, nospam wrote
(in ) :

In . com, Alfred
Molon wrote:

My brother bought a D600 a while ago, then barely used it. Too big &
heavy, too hard to use it (he never managed to learn how to use it).

What was he using before?

He had a Nikon D300.

then he should have felt at home with the d600.

Not exactly.I understand most of his issue, other than the size and weight.
The D300(S) is not a small, or lightweight camera, especially if you add the
battery-grip.

Both my D300 & D300S were of solid construction and intuitive control. When
I handled a D600 in a store, I was disappointed to find toy-like construction
and UI changes from the D300(S) which seemed to me to be awkward and
illogical.
I stuck with my D300S, and felt vindicated in my decision when the D600 oil
splatter, and shutter curtain issues materialized.

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Savageduck

In article , "Russell D."
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On 9/28/2017 3:16 AM, android wrote:
In article ,
Eric Stevens wrote:

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 00:37:51 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , android
wrote:


Seems you are posting everything twice.

he posts multiple times, cancelling each previous version every time he
makes a revision, knowing full well that most usenet servers do not
handle cancels, resulting in multiple posts to the reader.

Supersede is a part of the Usenet protocol that should be recognized by
a properly configured server...

except it isn't, and most do not.

Most also employ a time limit. Even from the original author the
supersede will be ignored if it does not arrive within some very short
time of the original posting.

But once an article has started to spread through the wider Internet
you wave goodbye to any chance of of superseding. That may mean you
have only seconds within which to change your mind.

Superseding means that the original article will be canceled and
replaced by a new one in the treads hierarchy.

FWIW, I didn't see any double posts.

:-))
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