Any pointers for buying a 6x6 enlarger

"A.Lee" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:02:21 +0000, Peter Chant wrote:

Having bought a Mamiya C330 TLR I was thinking that an enlarger capable of
6x6 might be a good plan.


I've got a Durst 601 that is going really cheap.
I presume from your .co.uk address you are in the UK?
I'm in Leicester, looking for £25 + delivery.50mm lens included, you may
want a longer lens for regular 6x6 printing, I've used it for 6x4.5 and
the 50mm lens doesnt cause a problem for me.Adjustable neg carrier, so it
can be used for all formats up to 6x6.
The only problem is the baseboard got wet on one edge, so the laminate has
lifted up around 2mm, for 1.5" on the forward edge.This doesnt cause a
problem for prints up to around 12x10", over that size, then the easel
will be lifted up on the forward edge slightly.I've never tried to repair
it as I never do over 10x8 prints anyway. If you are interested, then
email me.
Ta
alan ( at ) darkroom.plus.com

Just curious:
Is there an enlarger as ubiquitous as the Omega "D" series, is in the US, in Europe?
Thanks, John

In article ,
(John McGraw) wrote:

"A.Lee" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:02:21 +0000, Peter Chant wrote:

Having bought a Mamiya C330 TLR I was thinking that an enlarger capable
of
6x6 might be a good plan.


I've got a Durst 601 that is going really cheap.
I presume from your .co.uk address you are in the UK?
I'm in Leicester, looking for £25 + delivery.50mm lens included, you may
want a longer lens for regular 6x6 printing, I've used it for 6x4.5 and
the 50mm lens doesnt cause a problem for me.Adjustable neg carrier, so it
can be used for all formats up to 6x6.
The only problem is the baseboard got wet on one edge, so the laminate has
lifted up around 2mm, for 1.5" on the forward edge.This doesnt cause a
problem for prints up to around 12x10", over that size, then the easel
will be lifted up on the forward edge slightly.I've never tried to repair
it as I never do over 10x8 prints anyway. If you are interested, then
email me.
Ta
alan ( at ) darkroom.plus.com

Just curious:
Is there an enlarger as ubiquitous as the Omega "D" series, is in the US, in
Europe?
Thanks, John

Kaiser, Meopta, Krokus, Durst are all very common in Europe.

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To reply no_ HPMarketing Corp.

In article ,
(John McGraw) wrote:

"A.Lee" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:02:21 +0000, Peter Chant wrote:

Having bought a Mamiya C330 TLR I was thinking that an enlarger capable
of
6x6 might be a good plan.


I've got a Durst 601 that is going really cheap.
I presume from your .co.uk address you are in the UK?
I'm in Leicester, looking for £25 + delivery.50mm lens included, you may
want a longer lens for regular 6x6 printing, I've used it for 6x4.5 and
the 50mm lens doesnt cause a problem for me.Adjustable neg carrier, so it
can be used for all formats up to 6x6.
The only problem is the baseboard got wet on one edge, so the laminate has
lifted up around 2mm, for 1.5" on the forward edge.This doesnt cause a
problem for prints up to around 12x10", over that size, then the easel
will be lifted up on the forward edge slightly.I've never tried to repair
it as I never do over 10x8 prints anyway. If you are interested, then
email me.
Ta
alan ( at ) darkroom.plus.com

Just curious:
Is there an enlarger as ubiquitous as the Omega "D" series, is in the US, in
Europe?
Thanks, John

Kaiser, Meopta, Krokus, Durst are all very common in Europe.

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To reply no_ HPMarketing Corp.

You can also replace the baseboard or simply mount the enlarger to a
table (space permitted).. Another option you may consider is the
Beseler 23 or 67 series enlargers.. What ever you do, follow the
advice given within the rest of the thread and try to find one that
comes with what you need.. Negative carriers can cost more than the
enlarger itself (and most sell them seperately)..

Good luck, Jeff 8)

"A.Lee" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:02:21 +0000, Peter Chant wrote:

Having bought a Mamiya C330 TLR I was thinking that an enlarger capable of
6x6 might be a good plan.


I've got a Durst 601 that is going really cheap.
I presume from your .co.uk address you are in the UK?
I'm in Leicester, looking for £25 + delivery.50mm lens included, you may
want a longer lens for regular 6x6 printing, I've used it for 6x4.5 and
the 50mm lens doesnt cause a problem for me.Adjustable neg carrier, so it
can be used for all formats up to 6x6.
The only problem is the baseboard got wet on one edge, so the laminate has
lifted up around 2mm, for 1.5" on the forward edge.This doesnt cause a
problem for prints up to around 12x10", over that size, then the easel
will be lifted up on the forward edge slightly.I've never tried to repair
it as I never do over 10x8 prints anyway. If you are interested, then
email me.
Ta
alan ( at ) darkroom.plus.com

You can also replace the baseboard or simply mount the enlarger to a
table (space permitted).. Another option you may consider is the
Beseler 23 or 67 series enlargers.. What ever you do, follow the
advice given within the rest of the thread and try to find one that
comes with what you need.. Negative carriers can cost more than the
enlarger itself (and most sell them seperately)..

Good luck, Jeff 8)

"A.Lee" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:02:21 +0000, Peter Chant wrote:

Having bought a Mamiya C330 TLR I was thinking that an enlarger capable of
6x6 might be a good plan.


I've got a Durst 601 that is going really cheap.
I presume from your .co.uk address you are in the UK?
I'm in Leicester, looking for £25 + delivery.50mm lens included, you may
want a longer lens for regular 6x6 printing, I've used it for 6x4.5 and
the 50mm lens doesnt cause a problem for me.Adjustable neg carrier, so it
can be used for all formats up to 6x6.
The only problem is the baseboard got wet on one edge, so the laminate has
lifted up around 2mm, for 1.5" on the forward edge.This doesnt cause a
problem for prints up to around 12x10", over that size, then the easel
will be lifted up on the forward edge slightly.I've never tried to repair
it as I never do over 10x8 prints anyway. If you are interested, then
email me.
Ta
alan ( at ) darkroom.plus.com

"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
...
Peter Chant wrote:
Having bought a Mamiya C330 TLR I was thinking that an enlarger capable
of
6x6 might be a good plan.

Any things to go for or avoid?

I full admit that whilst I do process B&W
35mm I scan most of it and the Patterson 35mm enlarger hardly ever comes
out the box. However the economic of MF scanners makes me think that
traditional methods are probally the best bet.


If you have the room look for a 4x5 enlarger instead. They are often
cheap. You've got a certain amount of future growth built in. They tend to
be heavier duty then the smaller models.

The things to look for in a MF enlarger are no different then the
things
with smaller ones. Is it sturdy? Does it work? Does it come with all the
parts? If not will it be easy to find parts or will it turn into an
odessey.
Does it use standard easy to find bulbs? If you were on this side of the
ocean I'd suggest just getting an Omega or Beseler. On your side look for
what is common. It'll make it easier to find parts if you need them.

Nick

Mr Zentena's comments are, IMHO, very good.

I have an Omega B-22 (35mm, 6x6) and a D2V (up to 4x5) sitting side by side
in my darkroom. For the B-22, there is a supplemental condenser lens used
for 35mm that rests on top of the regular condenser set. The D2V has a third
condenser that fits into various slots for different lens focal lengths
("For 135-160mm lens, put condenser in slot #3..." sort of deal)

The original lens that came with my Omegas are not very good, and the small
lens mounting hole made replacing the lenses a bit of a problem. Not
impossible, just difficult!

You (Mr Chant) mention that your Patterson enlarger hardly ever comes out of
the box. Perhaps if you had a space where it could stay set up, ready for
use at a moment's notice, you would use it more often? A 6x6cm or 4x5inch
enlarger is going to require a big box!

"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
...
Peter Chant wrote:
Having bought a Mamiya C330 TLR I was thinking that an enlarger capable
of
6x6 might be a good plan.

Any things to go for or avoid?

I full admit that whilst I do process B&W
35mm I scan most of it and the Patterson 35mm enlarger hardly ever comes
out the box. However the economic of MF scanners makes me think that
traditional methods are probally the best bet.


If you have the room look for a 4x5 enlarger instead. They are often
cheap. You've got a certain amount of future growth built in. They tend to
be heavier duty then the smaller models.

The things to look for in a MF enlarger are no different then the
things
with smaller ones. Is it sturdy? Does it work? Does it come with all the
parts? If not will it be easy to find parts or will it turn into an
odessey.
Does it use standard easy to find bulbs? If you were on this side of the
ocean I'd suggest just getting an Omega or Beseler. On your side look for
what is common. It'll make it easier to find parts if you need them.

Nick

Mr Zentena's comments are, IMHO, very good.

I have an Omega B-22 (35mm, 6x6) and a D2V (up to 4x5) sitting side by side
in my darkroom. For the B-22, there is a supplemental condenser lens used
for 35mm that rests on top of the regular condenser set. The D2V has a third
condenser that fits into various slots for different lens focal lengths
("For 135-160mm lens, put condenser in slot #3..." sort of deal)

The original lens that came with my Omegas are not very good, and the small
lens mounting hole made replacing the lenses a bit of a problem. Not
impossible, just difficult!

You (Mr Chant) mention that your Patterson enlarger hardly ever comes out of
the box. Perhaps if you had a space where it could stay set up, ready for
use at a moment's notice, you would use it more often? A 6x6cm or 4x5inch
enlarger is going to require a big box!

"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
...
Peter Chant wrote:
Having bought a Mamiya C330 TLR I was thinking that an enlarger capable
of
6x6 might be a good plan.

Any things to go for or avoid?

I full admit that whilst I do process B&W
35mm I scan most of it and the Patterson 35mm enlarger hardly ever comes
out the box. However the economic of MF scanners makes me think that
traditional methods are probally the best bet.


If you have the room look for a 4x5 enlarger instead. They are often
cheap. You've got a certain amount of future growth built in. They tend to
be heavier duty then the smaller models.

The things to look for in a MF enlarger are no different then the
things
with smaller ones. Is it sturdy? Does it work? Does it come with all the
parts? If not will it be easy to find parts or will it turn into an
odessey.
Does it use standard easy to find bulbs? If you were on this side of the
ocean I'd suggest just getting an Omega or Beseler. On your side look for
what is common. It'll make it easier to find parts if you need them.

Nick

Mr Zentena's comments are, IMHO, very good.

I have an Omega B-22 (35mm, 6x6) and a D2V (up to 4x5) sitting side by side
in my darkroom. For the B-22, there is a supplemental condenser lens used
for 35mm that rests on top of the regular condenser set. The D2V has a third
condenser that fits into various slots for different lens focal lengths
("For 135-160mm lens, put condenser in slot #3..." sort of deal)

The original lens that came with my Omegas are not very good, and the small
lens mounting hole made replacing the lenses a bit of a problem. Not
impossible, just difficult!

You (Mr Chant) mention that your Patterson enlarger hardly ever comes out of
the box. Perhaps if you had a space where it could stay set up, ready for
use at a moment's notice, you would use it more often? A 6x6cm or 4x5inch
enlarger is going to require a big box!

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"Ken Hart" writes:

You (Mr Chant) mention that your Patterson enlarger hardly ever comes out of
the box. Perhaps if you had a space where it could stay set up, ready for
use at a moment's notice, you would use it more often? A 6x6cm or 4x5inch
enlarger is going to require a big box!

Yes. The main nusance is getting it out and putting it away. Once it
is set up it is probally quicker to produce a print than the time taken
to scan it. Actually the thing I don't like about printing is trying to
go into mass production and printing most of a roll. I'd rather play with
one or two good prints.

Pete

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http://www.petezilla.co.uk

Bob Salomon wrote in message ...
In article ,
(John McGraw) wrote:

"A.Lee" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:02:21 +0000, Peter Chant wrote:

Having bought a Mamiya C330 TLR I was thinking that an enlarger capable
of
6x6 might be a good plan.


I've got a Durst 601 that is going really cheap.
I presume from your .co.uk address you are in the UK?
I'm in Leicester, looking for £25 + delivery.50mm lens included, you may
want a longer lens for regular 6x6 printing, I've used it for 6x4.5 and
the 50mm lens doesnt cause a problem for me.Adjustable neg carrier, so it
can be used for all formats up to 6x6.
The only problem is the baseboard got wet on one edge, so the laminate has
lifted up around 2mm, for 1.5" on the forward edge.This doesnt cause a
problem for prints up to around 12x10", over that size, then the easel
will be lifted up on the forward edge slightly.I've never tried to repair
it as I never do over 10x8 prints anyway. If you are interested, then
email me.
Ta
alan ( at ) darkroom.plus.com

Just curious:
Is there an enlarger as ubiquitous as the Omega "D" series, is in the US, in
Europe?
Thanks, John

Kaiser, Meopta, Krokus, Durst are all very common in Europe.

Yes, Bob, but the D series is only one portion of Omegas line. I would
wager that if one were to walk into a professional or serious
photographers darkroom, the most likely enlarger would be a "D". I'm
not saying that the majority are "D"s, just the most likely. Is there
a series of a manufacturer that stands out like Ds? Of course I'm
prejustice, the 1st enlarger I used when I was 8 yrs old was a D2. It
seems like ~half of the darkrooms I've walked in to have had a "D" on
a counter & I've always assumed that were the gold standard. I've used
Dursts that I liked very much, but nothing as well as a D series. But
perhaps I've ignored the others.
John