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  #21  
Old February 26th 15, 10:08 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default There could still be hope! 4 a D7200!!!

android Wrote in message:
David Taylor Wrote in message:
On 25/02/2015 20:59, android wrote:
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A quarterframe sensor can only deliver half of the information of
a half frame one, like in the EOS M or a quarter of a fullframe
one, like in a D810. Any other statement is pure
BS.


No quibble, but there is also the question of how much information you
actually /need/ for any particular purpose. If you don't /need/
full-frame, then you can save on expense, weight and size.

I've got som nice imagery with Ixus cameras, but the EOS files are
way nicer...


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  #22  
Old February 26th 15, 10:10 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default There could still be hope! 4 a D7200!!!

Sandman Wrote in message:
In article , android wrote:

android:
A quarterframe sensor can only deliver half
of the information of a half frame one, like in the
EOS M or a quarter of a fullframe one, like in a D810.
Any other statement is pure BS.

nospam:
the only thing that's bs is what you said.

how much information a sensor captures is a function of
more than just its size.

android:
everything else equal and the size matter. as
described in the above.

Sandman:
Well, when it comes to cameras, everything else
isn't always equal :-D

nospam:
that's the point.

android:
i've made mine, but sandy snippet it... it can be found about
three posts back.

Sandman:
I snipped nothing in my post.


Sure you did.


So, we now have a claim from you that I snipped something you wrote, and a
counter claim from me that I did not. You have now repeated your claim without
supporting it, so here is the support from me:

This was your post:
This was my followup:

In which nothing of what you wrote was omitted or snipped. It is all there, and
your initial claim has now been proven to be incorrect. Your only option now is
to retract your claim and possibly apologize for making a claim about the actions
of another person that you didn't make sure was correct.

Any interested party can read the thread backwards!


Indeed they can. But I proved you incorrect even if they don't want to read the
thread "backwards".

Will you admit to having made an incorrect claim? We'll see.

As said: The evidence is posted. My claim stand.
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  #23  
Old February 26th 15, 10:41 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Sandman
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Default There could still be hope! 4 a D7200!!!

In article , android wrote:

android:
A quarterframe sensor can only deliver
half of the information of a half frame one, like
in the EOS M or a quarter of a fullframe one, like
in a D810. Any other statement is pure BS.

nospam:
the only thing that's bs is what you said.

how much information a sensor captures is a function
of more than just its size.

android:
everything else equal and the size matter. as
described in the above.

Sandman:
Well, when it comes to cameras, everything else
isn't always equal :-D

nospam:
that's the point.

android:
i've made mine, but sandy snippet it... it can be
found about three posts back.

Sandman:
I snipped nothing in my post.

android:
Sure you did.


Sandman:
So, we now have a claim from you that I snipped something you
wrote, and a counter claim from me that I did not. You have now
repeated your claim without supporting it, so here is the support
from me:


This was your post:
This was my followup:


In which nothing of what you wrote was omitted or snipped. It is
all there, and your initial claim has now been proven to be
incorrect. Your only option now is to retract your claim and
possibly apologize for making a claim about the actions of
another person that you didn't make sure was correct.


android:
Any interested party can read the thread backwards!


Sandman:
Indeed they can. But I proved you incorrect even if they don't
want to read the thread "backwards".


Will you admit to having made an incorrect claim? We'll see.


As said: The evidence is posted. My claim stand.


Then you are a proven liar yet again. Congratulations. Working hard to remove all
traces of credibility I see.

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  #24  
Old February 26th 15, 10:51 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default There could still be hope! 4 a D7200!!!

Sandman Wrote in message:
In article , android wrote:

android:
A quarterframe sensor can only deliver
half of the information of a half frame one, like
in the EOS M or a quarter of a fullframe one, like
in a D810. Any other statement is pure BS.

nospam:
the only thing that's bs is what you said.

how much information a sensor captures is a function
of more than just its size.

android:
everything else equal and the size matter. as
described in the above.

Sandman:
Well, when it comes to cameras, everything else
isn't always equal :-D

nospam:
that's the point.

android:
i've made mine, but sandy snippet it... it can be
found about three posts back.

Sandman:
I snipped nothing in my post.

android:
Sure you did.

Sandman:
So, we now have a claim from you that I snipped something you
wrote, and a counter claim from me that I did not. You have now
repeated your claim without supporting it, so here is the support
from me:


This was your post:
This was my followup:


In which nothing of what you wrote was omitted or snipped. It is
all there, and your initial claim has now been proven to be
incorrect. Your only option now is to retract your claim and
possibly apologize for making a claim about the actions of
another person that you didn't make sure was correct.


android:
Any interested party can read the thread backwards!

Sandman:
Indeed they can. But I proved you incorrect even if they don't
want to read the thread "backwards".


Will you admit to having made an incorrect claim? We'll see.


As said: The evidence is posted. My claim stand.


Then you are a proven liar yet again. Congratulations. Working hard to remove all
traces of credibility I see.

Talking while shaving, obviously!
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  #25  
Old February 26th 15, 12:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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Default There could still be hope! 4 a D7200!!!

On 26/02/2015 09:08, android wrote:
[]
I've got som nice imagery with Ixus cameras, but the EOS files are
way nicer...


For David:
https://db.tt/6ecIDRLO


Yes, a larger sensor (or a longer exposure) might have reduced the noise
(not viewing under ideal conditions at the moment). I've taken some
acceptable shots with my phone and my iPad, but I wouldn't recommend
them for "serious" use!

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  #26  
Old February 26th 15, 01:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default There could still be hope! 4 a D7200!!!

David Taylor Wrote in message:
On 26/02/2015 09:08, android wrote:
[]
I've got som nice imagery with Ixus cameras, but the EOS files are
way nicer...


For David:
https://db.tt/6ecIDRLO


Yes, a larger sensor (or a longer exposure) might have reduced the noise
(not viewing under ideal conditions at the moment). I've taken some
acceptable shots with my phone and my iPad, but I wouldn't recommend
them for "serious" use!

U c! Da zize matters!
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  #27  
Old February 26th 15, 11:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default There could still be hope! 4 a D7200!!!

On 26 Feb 2015 07:40:40 GMT, Sandman wrote:

In article , android wrote:

android:
A quarterframe sensor can only deliver half of the information
of a half frame one, like in the EOS M or a quarter of a
fullframe one, like in a D810. Any other statement is pure BS.

nospam:
the only thing that's bs is what you said.


how much information a sensor captures is a function of more than
just its size.


everything else equal and the size matter. as described in the
above.


---Snipped by Sandman: "the physics are the same regardles of the
size of the sensor you know... ---

Well, when it comes to cameras, everything else isn't always equal :-D

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  #28  
Old February 27th 15, 08:39 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Sandman
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Default There could still be hope! 4 a D7200!!!

In article , Eric Stevens wrote:

android:
A quarterframe sensor can only deliver half of the
information of a half frame one, like in the EOS M or a
quarter of a fullframe one, like in a D810. Any other
statement is pure BS.

nospam:
the only thing that's bs is what you said.

how much information a sensor captures is a function of more
than just its size.

android:
everything else equal and the size matter. as described in the
above.


---Snipped by Sandman: "the physics are the same regardles of the
size of the sensor you know... ---


Sandman:
Well, when it comes to cameras, everything else isn't always equal
:-D


Ah, my bad. Apologies to Android

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  #29  
Old February 27th 15, 02:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default There could still be hope! 4 a D7200!!!

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:59:15 +0100 (CET), android
wrote:

David Taylor Wrote in message:
On 25/02/2015 18:29, android wrote:
Bowser Wrote in message:

[]
Well, I'm keeping the GH3 and my m4/3 kit. Still does a great job and
can't be beat as a travel cam. Love those light 2.8 zooms.

But I have a few things coming up over the next two years that really
call for higher IQ.

The sensor in mft is really tiny. Quarterframe...


So what, /if/ that sensor can deliver the desired image quality? As
Bowser suggests, if you need more get a bigger sensor. For all my
needs, today's micro-four-thirds sensors and lenses are quite adequate,
and remarkable considering the size and weight benefits.

Example: I just bought the Olympus fish-eye lens - weighs 50g and is
about the size of a lens cap! Less than GBP 100 as well.

A quarterframe sensor can only deliver half of the information of
a half frame one, like in the EOS M or a quarter of a fullframe
one, like in a D810. Any other statement is pure
BS.


Utter nonsense. All you need to do is look at the results.
  #30  
Old February 28th 15, 07:18 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_6_]
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Default There could still be hope! 4 a D7200!!!

On 2/25/2015 2:36 PM, David Taylor wrote:
On 25/02/2015 18:29, android wrote:
Bowser Wrote in message:

[]
Well, I'm keeping the GH3 and my m4/3 kit. Still does a great job and
can't be beat as a travel cam. Love those light 2.8 zooms.

But I have a few things coming up over the next two years that really
call for higher IQ.

The sensor in mft is really tiny. Quarterframe...


So what, /if/ that sensor can deliver the desired image quality? As
Bowser suggests, if you need more get a bigger sensor. For all my
needs, today's micro-four-thirds sensors and lenses are quite adequate,
and remarkable considering the size and weight benefits.

Example: I just bought the Olympus fish-eye lens - weighs 50g and is
about the size of a lens cap! Less than GBP 100 as well.


I suspect that for most of us here photography is an enjoyable hobby. As
such we mostly stick to our fiscal and physical limits.

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