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Hi All,
My real life name is Dan and I am new to your hobby and this newsgroup. I have been lurking for three or four weeks and have enjoyed much of what is here. My newbieness is in the digital arena. I have taken my share of snapshots but lost most in a recent flood, so I decided to go digital. I bought a Canon 400D and love it, though I have nothing to compare it to. A sample photo of the kind I like to take can be found he http://www.flickr.com/photos/15996225@N08/?saved=1 Yeah, I know that the focus is not particularly sharp and the composition could be better, but I like it so there :-) My question relates to editing. In general, I like to stick with what I shoot, but I guess I might like to improve an occasional special shot for printing. My kit came with Canon Digital Professional. Is that similar to the Photoshop products I keep reading about? I can't help thinking that Photoshop and related products offer much more functionality, but don't want to buy it if I don't need it. If different, is Photoshop Essentials the way to go for an amateur? Thanks for your help. __________________________________________________ ___________________* RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com |
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On Oct 23, 4:50 pm, "Juan Moore Beer" wrote:
Hi All, My real life name is Dan and I am new to your hobby and this newsgroup. I have been lurking for three or four weeks and have enjoyed much of what is here. My newbieness is in the digital arena. I have taken my share of snapshots but lost most in a recent flood, so I decided to go digital. I bought a Canon 400D and love it, though I have nothing to compare it to. A sample photo of the kind I like to take can be found he http://www.flickr.com/photos/15996225@N08/?saved=1 Yeah, I know that the focus is not particularly sharp and the composition could be better, but I like it so there :-) My question relates to editing. In general, I like to stick with what I shoot, but I guess I might like to improve an occasional special shot for printing. My kit came with Canon Digital Professional. Is that similar to the Photoshop products I keep reading about? I can't help thinking that Photoshop and related products offer much more functionality, but don't want to buy it if I don't need it. If different, is Photoshop Essentials the way to go for an amateur? Thanks for your help. __________________________________________________ ___________________ RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader :www.recgroups.com photoshop is really cool, if you know how to use it, but it can be useful even if you are just experimenting never used Canon Digital Professional, so i cant exactly tell you which is better |
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Juan Moore Beer wrote:
Hi All, My real life name is Dan and I am new to your hobby and this newsgroup. I have been lurking for three or four weeks and have enjoyed much of what is here. Welcome! You must have a high tolerance for pests! My question relates to editing. In general, I like to stick with what I shoot, but I guess I might like to improve an occasional special shot for printing. My kit came with Canon Digital Professional. Is that similar to the Photoshop products I keep reading about? I can't help thinking that Photoshop and related products offer much more functionality, but don't want to buy it if I don't need it. If different, is Photoshop Essentials the way to go for an amateur? In short, yes. You can try it free, as well (as you can with the full version of PS and Lightroom.) I'd try 'em all and see what you like. -- john mcwilliams |
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:38:20 -0700, Sparky wrote:
: On Oct 23, 4:50 pm, "Juan Moore Beer" wrote: : Hi All, : : My real life name is Dan and I am new to your hobby and this newsgroup. : : I have been lurking for three or four weeks and have enjoyed much of what : is here. : : My newbieness is in the digital arena. I have taken my share of snapshots : but lost most in a recent flood, so I decided to go digital. : : I bought a Canon 400D and love it, though I have nothing to compare it to. : : A sample photo of the kind I like to take can be found he : : http://www.flickr.com/photos/15996225@N08/?saved=1 : : Yeah, I know that the focus is not particularly sharp and the composition : could be better, but I like it so there :-) : : My question relates to editing. In general, I like to stick with what I : shoot, but I guess I might like to improve an occasional special shot for : printing. : : My kit came with Canon Digital Professional. Is that similar to the : Photoshop products I keep reading about? I can't help thinking that : Photoshop and related products offer much more functionality, but don't : want to buy it if I don't need it. : : If different, is Photoshop Essentials the way to go for an amateur? : : Thanks for your help. : : __________________________________________________ ___________________ : RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader :www.recgroups.com : : photoshop is really cool, if you know how to use it, but it can be : useful even if you are just experimenting : : never used Canon Digital Professional, so i cant exactly tell you : which is better I have used Digital Photo Professional, and I like it a lot (although my wife is pestering me to get Photoshop Elements for her birthday). The story on DPP is that it doesn't do very much, but what it does do, it does very well. My suggestion would be to learn to use DPP and only look elsewhere when you're pretty sure you've outgrown it. But be sure you have the latest version (3.0.2.6). I don't think you'll find it on the CD, so you'll have to go to Canon's Web site to get it. Bob |
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"Juan Moore Beer" wrote in message ... Hi All, My real life name is Dan and I am new to your hobby and this newsgroup. I have been lurking for three or four weeks and have enjoyed much of what is here. Hi Dan, you are a glutten for punishment hanging about here. Far too many folk not interested in photography and just want to snipe at each other. Have a look at www.ephotozine.com Great crowd and no abuse. S. |
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:50:45 -0700, Juan Moore Beer wrote:
Hi All, My real life name is Dan and I am new to your hobby and this newsgroup. I have been lurking for three or four weeks and have enjoyed much of what is here. My newbieness is in the digital arena. I have taken my share of snapshots but lost most in a recent flood, so I decided to go digital. I bought a Canon 400D and love it, though I have nothing to compare it to. A sample photo of the kind I like to take can be found he http://www.flickr.com/photos/15996225@N08/?saved=1 Yeah, I know that the focus is not particularly sharp and the composition could be better, but I like it so there :-) My question relates to editing. In general, I like to stick with what I shoot, but I guess I might like to improve an occasional special shot for printing. My kit came with Canon Digital Professional. Is that similar to the Photoshop products I keep reading about? I can't help thinking that Photoshop and related products offer much more functionality, but don't want to buy it if I don't need it. Before you consider buying photoshop, I'd suggest you try GIMP which is available for free and offers a lot of the same functionality. I've found that by shooting RAW and doing basic manipulations in UFRAW (also free) things generally work out quite quickly and easily. If different, is Photoshop Essentials the way to go for an amateur? Thanks for your help. __________________________________________________ ___________________Â* RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com |
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Thanks to all. Your advice will help get me started.
There is so much to learn and so little time! ----* : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:20:33 -0600, ray wrote:
: Before you consider buying photoshop, I'd suggest you try GIMP which is : available for free and offers a lot of the same functionality. I've found : that by shooting RAW and doing basic manipulations in UFRAW (also free) : things generally work out quite quickly and easily. Do those programs handle Canon .CR2 RAW mode correctly, including preserving Canon's idiosyncratic Exif data? Bob |
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:18:25 -0400, Robert Coe wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:20:33 -0600, ray wrote: : Before you consider buying photoshop, I'd suggest you try GIMP which is : available for free and offers a lot of the same functionality. I've found : that by shooting RAW and doing basic manipulations in UFRAW (also free) : things generally work out quite quickly and easily. Do those programs handle Canon .CR2 RAW mode correctly, including preserving Canon's idiosyncratic Exif data? Bob Since I have a Kodak P850, I have no idea. You could check the ufraw and/or dcraw web sites. |
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Robert Coe wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:20:33 -0600, ray wrote: : Before you consider buying photoshop, I'd suggest you try GIMP which is : available for free and offers a lot of the same functionality. I've found : that by shooting RAW and doing basic manipulations in UFRAW (also free) : things generally work out quite quickly and easily. Do those programs handle Canon .CR2 RAW mode correctly, including preserving Canon's idiosyncratic Exif data? I haven't looked to see if .CR2 specifically is supported, but given that UFRAW uses Dave Coffin's /dcraw/ code, it is safe to say that it works well. EXIF data might be a different problem though. Again, I haven't checked to see specifically what happens with Canon's data. It works well with Nikon EXIF data. However, I typically convert NEF data files to PPM or TIFF image files for editing, and only end up with a JPEG on rare occasions when a webpage or email is the intended target; and because the intermediate state doesn't support EXIF data, the final JPEG image has virtually none of the original data. For that it is easy enough to use /exiftool/ to do whatever sort of manipulation is useful. For example, I have one shell script which adds some specific comments, such as a copyright notice, to the EXIF data and at the same time verifies that the original data is still there, or finds the original .NEF file and adds all the EXIF data from it to whatever is there already. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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