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Might be the end of the line for Agfa Photo...
UC wrote:
Althouigh I feel sorry for those affacted, I must say 'good riddance' to Agfa film and paper. They suck... Then you're blind. While not fan of their paper and negative film, Scala is a beautiful product, as is Rodinol with the right films. -p |
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Might be the end of the line for Agfa Photo...
The little troll is best ignored or killfiled,....either will work for
me. In article PAM, PAM (pmp) wrote: While not fan of their paper and negative film, Scala is a beautiful product, as is Rodinol with the right films. -- Would thou choose to meet a rat eating dragon, or a dragon, eating rat? The answer of: I am somewhere in the middle. |
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Might be the end of the line for Agfa Photo...
"Mike" wrote in message news While not fan of their paper and negative film, Scala is a beautiful product, as is Rodinol with the right films. Rodinal is a great developer for FP4 and TMX in 4x5. I've tried many, many dev. over the years, and I havn't found anything close to Rodinal. I'm looking for a substitute now, in case they stop making it. A dark day indeed. Bob Hickey |
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Might be the end of the line for Agfa Photo...
In article ,
"Bob Hickey" writes: I've tried many, many dev. over the years, and I havn't found anything close to Rodinal. I'm looking for a substitute now, in case they stop making it. A dark day indeed. Look into Calbe R09 (normally available from J&C, http://www.jandcphoto.com, although they're out of stock at the moment). This is supposedly made from an earlier incarnation of the original Rodinal formula. Another option is Photographers' Formulary's (http://www.photoformulary.com) "Rodinal-like" developer. I get the impression this ships as a powder, though, which is likely to be a little more dangerous to mix than the average powdered developer. (Rodinal-type developers use sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide, which is nasty stuff -- sodium hydroxide is also known as lye.) You can also mix it from separately purchased components, but as just noted, there are safety issues with this approach. If you're skittish about handling the components, it's best to stick with a pre-mixed version. -- Rod Smith, http://www.rodsbooks.com Author of books on Linux, FreeBSD, and networking |
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Might be the end of the line for Agfa Photo...
LR Kalajainen wrote:
... MCC Classic. I've come to love that paper as well as any ... Agfa this and Agfa that. How many pies and slices were they after. There problem # 1, up- sizing and no way down. Early 19th century coating plants were turning out two miles of paper a run. I don't know what production capacity is today but Kodak won't flick the switch any more for fear of the many miles of RC-VC paper hurting there bottom line. Agfa's problem #2; they never played on their reputation and customer base loyalty. I've noted their film prices; lowest of the big four. I've not paid any attention to their paper prices because, like Kodak, they abandoned Graded papers. My conclusion is that the gargantuan production capacity of yesterday's facilities is sinking the industry. As an example a minimum order of 2000 lbs of paper is as little as Bergger will consider. And another example, JandC has told me that if I wanted some single weight paper I'd have to finance a special run. They will stock up on any amount cut throat Chines film though. Cheap Cheap. What the Hell sort of support is that? Dan |
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Might be the end of the line for Agfa Photo...
In article .com,
wrote: And another example, JandC has told me that if I wanted some single weight paper I'd have to finance a special run. They will stock up on any amount cut throat Chines film though. Cheap Cheap. What the Hell sort of support is that? Dan There isn't because J &C bypasses the normal distribution channels on a lot of products, which is why I would and do give serious consideration before ordering from them (Period). I also view some of the bigger dealers playing the Dealer brand game through a dim glass. -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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Might be the end of the line for Agfa Photo...
Roman J. Rohleder schrieb:
David Nebenzahl schrieb: So the question now becomes: who's going to buy the pieces? Three divisions were sold today. Fuji is interested in the Muenchen/Peiting plant, the division developing and producing the laboratory equipment. The Peiting "lab plant" has been sold to the british Photo Me International. PMI was the company interested in buying Agfaphoto as a whole, they maintain a networt of 25000 photo booths worldwide and own the french KIS and swiss Gretag-Macbeth (buildingt the PMI hardware).. The other plants are the chemical plant in Vaihingen/Enz near Stuttgart, Vaihingen and the Munich support center for the DLab service and spare parts were sold to a german company, "A und O". This company is active in IT hardware service and support and they are interested in taking over the international support and distribution branch of AgfaPhoto, too, delivering spare parts and chemistry to laboratories. Gruss, Roman -- "Ich fuehle Portraits. ich schmecke Landschaften. Frei von Belichtungsmesser, und Tiefenschaerfe." (aus "Pecker") |
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Might be the end of the line for Agfa Photo...
Roman J. Rohleder wrote:
Three divisions were sold today. What of the division or divisions which produce the film and the paper? Those are of first interest to members of this NG and the silver gelatin group as a whole. Dan |
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