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I've always worked in color, but I gave some B&W conversion a try today.
Are these decent at all or are they just snapshots without color? (4 pix.) http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/1401859/ |
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Cynicor wrote:
I've always worked in color, but I gave some B&W conversion a try today. Are these decent at all or are they just snapshots without color? (4 pix.) http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/1401859/ My 2c worth: http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/1401859/1/66329135 really works for me in B&W. For printing, maybe some PP to bring up shadow detail in the trunk. The others, IMHO may be better in colour. I am assumimg from Exif data that you used a w/a zoom lens at 11mm for the above shot. A suggestion is not to use this lens at less than f8, as there is considerable softness, particularly away from centre-frame at wider settings accentuated towards the edges at this focal length. There are only two lenses AFAIK that you could have used - which one was it? |
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frederick wrote:
Cynicor wrote: I've always worked in color, but I gave some B&W conversion a try today. Are these decent at all or are they just snapshots without color? (4 pix.) http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/1401859/ My 2c worth: http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/1401859/1/66329135 really works for me in B&W. For printing, maybe some PP to bring up shadow detail in the trunk. The others, IMHO may be better in colour. I am assumimg from Exif data that you used a w/a zoom lens at 11mm for the above shot. A suggestion is not to use this lens at less than f8, as there is considerable softness, particularly away from centre-frame at wider settings accentuated towards the edges at this focal length. There are only two lenses AFAIK that you could have used - which one was it? Thanks, Frederick - I appreciate the feedback. It was in fact the Tamron. Maybe I should've also pushed it up to at least 12 or 13 mm as well. It's definitely a bit soft, and it also has a noticeable red/cyan shift in many photos. I had dodged the trunk somewhat to bring out detail, but I might try a bit more. I am just teaching myself how to convert effectively into black and white in PS, but I thought that I got the detail and contrast OK on these. The first one might be a little washed-out. |
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Cynicor wrote:
frederick wrote: Cynicor wrote: I've always worked in color, but I gave some B&W conversion a try today. Are these decent at all or are they just snapshots without color? (4 pix.) http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/1401859/ My 2c worth: http://trupin.smugmug.com/gallery/1401859/1/66329135 really works for me in B&W. For printing, maybe some PP to bring up shadow detail in the trunk. The others, IMHO may be better in colour. I am assumimg from Exif data that you used a w/a zoom lens at 11mm for the above shot. A suggestion is not to use this lens at less than f8, as there is considerable softness, particularly away from centre-frame at wider settings accentuated towards the edges at this focal length. There are only two lenses AFAIK that you could have used - which one was it? Thanks, Frederick - I appreciate the feedback. It was in fact the Tamron. Maybe I should've also pushed it up to at least 12 or 13 mm as well. It's definitely a bit soft, and it also has a noticeable red/cyan shift in many photos. I had dodged the trunk somewhat to bring out detail, but I might try a bit more. I am just teaching myself how to convert effectively into black and white in PS, but I thought that I got the detail and contrast OK on these. The first one might be a little washed-out. To add confusion, the shadow detail visible is going to depend on how the image is printed or which screen it's viewed on, let alone how you want it to look. I took a similar image a few days ago using my Sigma 10-20. It was a late on a cloudy dark day, camera set a aperture priority, shutter speed 1/6 second f8. You can use shutter speeds this low with these extreme w/a lenses without much problem, roughly equivalent to using 1/30 with a 50mm lens - a hit rate of 50% or better is achievable, and at 1/15 second, no particular care is needed to avoid camera shake. The Sigma is noticeably sharper at f8 than f5.6 away from center frame - and I expect the Tamron (and the others) are the same. These lenses are a lot of fun to use - but I don't find it easy to view a scene with my eyes and imagine what the viewfinder will show. I am a learner. It probably looks silly when I am out taking photos - I end up crawling around on hands and knees waving the camera around at odd angles peering through the viewfinder - like a kid peering through the wrong end of binoculars. They are great lenses for photographing children - close up from a very low level with a sharply rendered but distorted background and big sky. I really like the look as it seems to me to be how the world really looked from my eyes when I was a child. Strangely (maybe not) kids seem to like the photos a lot, but many adults think they look weird. It would be interesting to hand a camera with such w/a view to a small child for a day, and see what they did with it (yeah - they would first grind the front element into some rocks, then trip up and drop the whole thing into a pond). But, as their concepts of "personal space" are different from ours, they won't hesitate to get right up close to isolate the subject, and can probably do a great job of composition without having to think about it. Maybe I will get better at composition if I suffer an infantile regression in my dotage. In the meantime it's quite hard work. |
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