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National Park Photography [re" Ansel Adams Act]
I've done a bit of traveling in my time, visited a few national parks
and landmarks, and never had my right to make photographs questioned. Can anyone tell me which parks or landmarks or other federally-managed recreation areas or public lands restrict or tax photography? I cite the national museums in Washington D.C. Except in the rare case of loan works, including modern ones that may be under copyright, the policy of the National Gallery (e.g.) is "Of course you may photograph that Rembrandt. After all, you own it." Want to copy a work? The official rules read "The National Gallery of Art copyist program has been in operation since the Gallery opened in 1941. A permit issued by the registrar's office is required for copying works of art in oil or any other liquid medium. The Gallery provides permit holders with an easel, stool, and drop cloth; private easels are not allowed. Visitors may sketch with pencils or other dry media in the galleries without a permit." As for federally controlled national security establishments, the people have had their say on that matter in several national security and espionage laws. The right of the people to restrict access, including photography and other surveillance, at designated sites is settled law. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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National Park Photography [re" Ansel Adams Act]
On 2015-01-22 01:04:23 +0000, Davoud said:
I've done a bit of traveling in my time, visited a few national parks and landmarks, and never had my right to make photographs questioned. Can anyone tell me which parks or landmarks or other federally-managed recreation areas or public lands restrict or tax photography? There are general rules and specific rules. Most National Parks and National Monuments allow recreational photography without restriction. There are some restrictions in parts of Arches, Canyonlands and Capitol Reef National Parks where public access is restricted. They do have limited number guide led photo-tours into those areas. Then there are the rule which apply to commercial photography & filming, for which permits from the NPS are required. One group which falls into this category are the various photo-pro workshops. They have to have an NPS permit ant the numbers in the workshop are restricted. Sometimes these workshops gain special access to area at times very popular sites such as the slot canyons would be closed to regular tourist traffic. ....but they are paying for that uncrowded access. The Antelope Canyon Slots falls into the Navajo National Parks system, not NPS, and the tribe controls all access for tour operators, they have their own set of rules for guide led photo tours. On limited number tours only are tripods permitted, and the guides decide what constitutes appropriate photo equipment. If you have a problem with that take it up with the tribal council. Here is a lesson learned by one workshop operator. http://digital-photography-school.com/national-park-photography-workshop-permits-are-they-really-necessary/ I cite the national museums in Washington D.C. Except in the rare case of loan works, including modern ones that may be under copyright, the policy of the National Gallery (e.g.) is "Of course you may photograph that Rembrandt. After all, you own it." Want to copy a work? The official rules read "The National Gallery of Art copyist program has been in operation since the Gallery opened in 1941. A permit issued by the registrar's office is required for copying works of art in oil or any other liquid medium. The Gallery provides permit holders with an easel, stool, and drop cloth; private easels are not allowed. Visitors may sketch with pencils or other dry media in the galleries without a permit." As for federally controlled national security establishments, the people have had their say on that matter in several national security and espionage laws. The right of the people to restrict access, including photography and other surveillance, at designated sites is settled law. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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National Park Photography [re" Ansel Adams Act]
On 2015-01-22 02:00:07 +0000, Savageduck said:
On 2015-01-22 01:04:23 +0000, Davoud said: I've done a bit of traveling in my time, visited a few national parks and landmarks, and never had my right to make photographs questioned. Can anyone tell me which parks or landmarks or other federally-managed recreation areas or public lands restrict or tax photography? There are general rules and specific rules. Most National Parks and National Monuments allow recreational photography without restriction. There are some restrictions in parts of Arches, Canyonlands and Capitol Reef National Parks where public access is restricted. They do have limited number guide led photo-tours into those areas. Then there are the rule which apply to commercial photography & filming, for which permits from the NPS are required. One group which falls into this category are the various photo-pro workshops. They have to have an NPS permit ant the numbers in the workshop are restricted. Sometimes these workshops gain special access to area at times very popular sites such as the slot canyons would be closed to regular tourist traffic. ...but they are paying for that uncrowded access. The Antelope Canyon Slots falls into the Navajo National Parks system, not NPS, and the tribe controls all access for tour operators, they have their own set of rules for guide led photo tours. On limited number tours only are tripods permitted, and the guides decide what constitutes appropriate photo equipment. If you have a problem with that take it up with the tribal council. If you want to shoot in Antelope Canyon this is your only option: http://www.navajoantelopecanyon.com/tours.html Here is a lesson learned by one workshop operator. http://digital-photography-school.com/national-park-photography-workshop-permits-are-they-really-necessary/ I cite the national museums in Washington D.C. Except in the rare case of loan works, including modern ones that may be under copyright, the policy of the National Gallery (e.g.) is "Of course you may photograph that Rembrandt. After all, you own it." Want to copy a work? The official rules read "The National Gallery of Art copyist program has been in operation since the Gallery opened in 1941. A permit issued by the registrar's office is required for copying works of art in oil or any other liquid medium. The Gallery provides permit holders with an easel, stool, and drop cloth; private easels are not allowed. Visitors may sketch with pencils or other dry media in the galleries without a permit." As for federally controlled national security establishments, the people have had their say on that matter in several national security and espionage laws. The right of the people to restrict access, including photography and other surveillance, at designated sites is settled law. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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National Park Photography [re" Ansel Adams Act]
On 1/21/2015 8:04 PM, Davoud wrote:
I've done a bit of traveling in my time, visited a few national parks and landmarks, and never had my right to make photographs questioned. Can anyone tell me which parks or landmarks or other federally-managed recreation areas or public lands restrict or tax photography? I cite the national museums in Washington D.C. Except in the rare case of loan works, including modern ones that may be under copyright, the policy of the National Gallery (e.g.) is "Of course you may photograph that Rembrandt. After all, you own it." Want to copy a work? The official rules read "The National Gallery of Art copyist program has been in operation since the Gallery opened in 1941. A permit issued by the registrar's office is required for copying works of art in oil or any other liquid medium. The Gallery provides permit holders with an easel, stool, and drop cloth; private easels are not allowed. Visitors may sketch with pencils or other dry media in the galleries without a permit." As for federally controlled national security establishments, the people have had their say on that matter in several national security and espionage laws. The right of the people to restrict access, including photography and other surveillance, at designated sites is settled law. IIRC I was taking photos in one of the galeries in DC, and told by one of the guards that photos were not permitted. I politely showed him that I was not taking photos of the exhibit, but of people loooking at the exhibit. He laughed at on of my images showing someone in a ridiculous posture and just asked me not to use flash. I suspect this happened at the Calder, but cannot say for sure. There must be some policy, but I saw no signs. -- PeterN |
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National Park Photography [re" Ansel Adams Act]
Davoud:
I cite the national museums in Washington D.C. Except in the rare case of loan works, including modern ones that may be under copyright, the policy of the National Gallery (e.g.) is "Of course you may photograph that Rembrandt. After all, you own it." Want to copy a work? The official rules read "The National Gallery of Art copyist program has been in operation since the Gallery opened in 1941. A permit issued by the registrar's office is required for copying works of art in oil or any other liquid medium. The Gallery provides permit holders with an easel, stool, and drop cloth; private easels are not allowed. Visitors may sketch with pencils or other dry media in the galleries without a permit." As for federally controlled national security establishments, the people have had their say on that matter in several national security and espionage laws. The right of the people to restrict access, including photography and other surveillance, at designated sites is settled law. PeterN: IIRC I was taking photos in one of the galeries in DC, and told by one of the guards that photos were not permitted... To avoid the spread of FUD you must say what museum it was. There are a number of private museums in Washington. For the Smithsonian, which is owned by the people, the rules are as I stated above. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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National Park Photography [re" Ansel Adams Act]
Davoud:
I've done a bit of traveling in my time, visited a few national parks and landmarks, and never had my right to make photographs questioned. Can anyone tell me which parks or landmarks or other federally-managed recreation areas or public lands restrict or tax photography? Savageduck: There are general rules and specific rules. Most National Parks and National Monuments allow recreational photography without restriction. Most? Which parks or monuments restrict photography? There are some restrictions in parts of Arches, Canyonlands and Capitol Reef National Parks where public access is restricted. They do have limited number guide led photo-tours into those areas. Restricting access to certain fragile environments is a different matter, unrelated to photography per se. Those who are permitted to enter these zones will find no restrictions on photography. Then there are the rule which apply to commercial photography & filming, for which permits from the NPS are required. Not entirely true. There are no restrictions on commercial use of photographs that you make in national parks &c. The need to have a permit comes when you want to go in with a crew, especially a film location crew, which can amount to a hundred or more people. The Antelope Canyon Slots falls into the Navajo National Parks system, not NPS, and the tribe controls all access for tour operators, they have their own set of rules for guide led photo tours. Yes, another special case, not on public land. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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National Park Photography [re" Ansel Adams Act]
On 1/22/2015 6:39 PM, Davoud wrote:
Davoud: I cite the national museums in Washington D.C. Except in the rare case of loan works, including modern ones that may be under copyright, the policy of the National Gallery (e.g.) is "Of course you may photograph that Rembrandt. After all, you own it." Want to copy a work? The official rules read "The National Gallery of Art copyist program has been in operation since the Gallery opened in 1941. A permit issued by the registrar's office is required for copying works of art in oil or any other liquid medium. The Gallery provides permit holders with an easel, stool, and drop cloth; private easels are not allowed. Visitors may sketch with pencils or other dry media in the galleries without a permit." As for federally controlled national security establishments, the people have had their say on that matter in several national security and espionage laws. The right of the people to restrict access, including photography and other surveillance, at designated sites is settled law. PeterN: IIRC I was taking photos in one of the galeries in DC, and told by one of the guards that photos were not permitted... To avoid the spread of FUD you must say what museum it was. There are a number of private museums in Washington. For the Smithsonian, which is owned by the people, the rules are as I stated above. I do not recall which museum. It was definitely in DC, And was definitely on the Mall, most likely the Calder as that is our favorite. But, I am not certain which one. It is possible that the incident happened where there was an exhibit on loan. I didn't then, and do not now, consider the issue to be overly important. If my comment does nbot satify you, there is nothing i can do about it. -- PeterN |
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National Park Photography [re" Ansel Adams Act]
PeterN:
IIRC I was taking photos in one of the galeries in DC, and told by one of the guards that photos were not permitted... Davoud: To avoid the spread of FUD you must say what museum it was. There are a number of private museums in Washington. For the Smithsonian, which is owned by the people, the rules are as I stated above. PeterN: I do not recall which museum. It was definitely in DC, And was definitely on the Mall, most likely the Calder as that is our favorite. But, I am not certain which one. It is possible that the incident happened where there was an exhibit on loan. I didn't then, and do not now, consider the issue to be overly important. If my comment does nbot satify you, there is nothing i can do about it. Hmmm. There is no "Calder" museum on the National Mall, or anywhere else in Washington, as near as I can determine. Must have been an exhibit of privately owned works at one of the Smithsonian museums. There is a list of Smithsonian museums here http://www.si.edu/Museums. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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National Park Photography [re" Ansel Adams Act]
Davoud wrote:
PeterN: IIRC I was taking photos in one of the galeries in DC, and told by one of the guards that photos were not permitted... Davoud: To avoid the spread of FUD you must say what museum it was. There are a number of private museums in Washington. For the Smithsonian, which is owned by the people, the rules are as I stated above. PeterN: I do not recall which museum. It was definitely in DC, And was definitely on the Mall, most likely the Calder as that is our favorite. But, I am not certain which one. It is possible that the incident happened where there was an exhibit on loan. I didn't then, and do not now, consider the issue to be overly important. If my comment does nbot satify you, there is nothing i can do about it. Hmmm. There is no "Calder" museum on the National Mall, or anywhere else in Washington, as near as I can determine. Must have been an exhibit of privately owned works at one of the Smithsonian museums. There is a list of Smithsonian museums here http://www.si.edu/Museums. Yup! I have taken photographs in the National Gallery, the Hirschhorn, and the Air & Space Museum, without being harassed by any staff. The Hirschhorn has some Calder works in the sculpture garden, and one might think of it as a "Calder" museum, but it is not. -- Savageduck |
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National Park Photography [re" Ansel Adams Act]
On 1/23/2015 4:43 PM, Davoud wrote:
PeterN: IIRC I was taking photos in one of the galeries in DC, and told by one of the guards that photos were not permitted... Davoud: To avoid the spread of FUD you must say what museum it was. There are a number of private museums in Washington. For the Smithsonian, which is owned by the people, the rules are as I stated above. PeterN: I do not recall which museum. It was definitely in DC, And was definitely on the Mall, most likely the Calder as that is our favorite. But, I am not certain which one. It is possible that the incident happened where there was an exhibit on loan. I didn't then, and do not now, consider the issue to be overly important. If my comment does nbot satify you, there is nothing i can do about it. Hmmm. There is no "Calder" museum on the National Mall, or anywhere else in Washington, as near as I can determine. Must have been an exhibit of privately owned works at one of the Smithsonian museums. There is a list of Smithsonian museums here http://www.si.edu/Museums. Here are some links. It looks like my memory was wrong about the Mall, but it is in DC. http://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/calder/realsp/roomenter-foyer.htm http://www.google.com/webhp?nord=1#nord=1&q=alexander+calder+museum+dc http://americanart.si.edu/visit/hours/dwrcmap.cfm -- PeterN |
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