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  #11  
Old January 21st 15, 10:11 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Digital Picture Frames

On 01/20/2015 08:44 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
Late last year I started to sift my entire collection of digital
images in a search for a particular print project I had in mind. At
the moment I have about 400 candidates which is far too many for
printing. It has occurred to me that a digital picture frame may be a
suitable answer.

My last experience of digital frames was in the days when they were
relatively new and I was not left with a good impression. They would
not hold many images. Nor could they access much memory from a USB
memory stick if one was plugged in. Above all, they were shortlived.
Each one died after only a few months.

My question is, are they any better now? If any one has any recent
experience, good, bad or indifferent, I would like to know what it
was.

I'm looking for a 10"~12" screen with a good dynamic range and a
colour gamut at least as large as sRGB. Is there such a thing?




I was given one as a gift a few years back but did not care too much for
it so I passed it on.

Now they have computers "on a stick" that you can plug into actually
decent monitors and do what you want.


If you aren't familiar with them just Google

the price is low
  #12  
Old January 21st 15, 01:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Digital Picture Frames

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

The iPad serves very well as a portfolio. Using Lightroom Mobile the
image files take up very little space, and they can be presented
manually or as a slide show.


I would like something a little larger than an iPad screen, if I can
find such a thing.


then repurpose an old laptop.
  #13  
Old January 21st 15, 05:09 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:44:01 +1300, Eric Stevens wrote:

Late last year I started to sift my entire collection of digital images
in a search for a particular print project I had in mind. At the moment
I have about 400 candidates which is far too many for printing. It has
occurred to me that a digital picture frame may be a suitable answer.

My last experience of digital frames was in the days when they were
relatively new and I was not left with a good impression. They would not
hold many images. Nor could they access much memory from a USB memory
stick if one was plugged in. Above all, they were shortlived. Each one
died after only a few months.

My question is, are they any better now? If any one has any recent
experience, good, bad or indifferent, I would like to know what it was.

I'm looking for a 10"~12" screen with a good dynamic range and a colour
gamut at least as large as sRGB. Is there such a thing?


FWIW - my solution would be an apropriately sized HD TV (check for HDMI
port) and a Raspberry Pi. There are even kits to attach to Pi to the back
side of the TV.
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Old January 21st 15, 06:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , ray carter
wrote:

I'm looking for a 10"~12" screen with a good dynamic range and a colour
gamut at least as large as sRGB. Is there such a thing?


FWIW - my solution would be an apropriately sized HD TV (check for HDMI
port) and a Raspberry Pi. There are even kits to attach to Pi to the back
side of the TV.


nothing like making it as complicated as possible.
  #15  
Old January 21st 15, 10:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 21:14:14 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 20:43:23 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-01-21 04:02:07 +0000, "Mayayana" said:


--- snip ---

I originally thought of an album, perhaps two images per page, but
when m*short_list* came out as large as it had I realised and album
was not the answer. Why so many? Well one of the first goes back to
2002. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../LR--00068.jpg
Hand held with available light, Sony 505, 5 MP. And they go on from
there.


--- snip ---

I had second thoughts after I posted the above: surely the camera was
a F707, not a F505. After all the F505 was only 2.1 MP and surely that
shot of the Sydney Town Hall organ was not the product of a 2.1 MP
camera?

So I queried the posted image using the Exif tab on the Firefox tool
bar and it comes up with "Sony DSC-F505" with a tab which linked to
DPReview at http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf505/

The image certainly seems to think it is the product of an F505.

So then I went to*my* photograph of *my* camera which I used when I
eventually sold it. See
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC1813.jpg It clearly
isn't the same as the one shown in DPReview link for the F505. So I
went to DPReview on the subject of the F707 and there was a picture
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf707/ which is but a different
view of mine. So Sony got their firmware data wrong when they made the
F707. I wonder how many other times this kind of thing has happened?
I've never heard of it before.

What may have happened on this occasion may have stemmed from the fact
that the F707 was a development of the F505. It may be they took a
whole block of code from the F505's ROM and planted it without further
checking in that for the F707. But still ...

Makes you think about the possible problems of building fully
autonomous cars. :-)
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #16  
Old January 21st 15, 10:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 08:24:09 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

The iPad serves very well as a portfolio. Using Lightroom Mobile the
image files take up very little space, and they can be presented
manually or as a slide show.


I would like something a little larger than an iPad screen, if I can
find such a thing.


then repurpose an old laptop.


So - when you can't answer my original question, you change the
question.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #17  
Old January 21st 15, 10:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2015-01-21 22:40:16 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 21:14:14 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 20:43:23 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-01-21 04:02:07 +0000, "Mayayana" said:


--- snip ---

I originally thought of an album, perhaps two images per page, but
when m*short_list* came out as large as it had I realised and album
was not the answer. Why so many? Well one of the first goes back to
2002. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../LR--00068.jpg
Hand held with available light, Sony 505, 5 MP. And they go on from
there.


--- snip ---

I had second thoughts after I posted the above: surely the camera was
a F707, not a F505. After all the F505 was only 2.1 MP and surely that
shot of the Sydney Town Hall organ was not the product of a 2.1 MP
camera?

So I queried the posted image using the Exif tab on the Firefox tool
bar and it comes up with "Sony DSC-F505" with a tab which linked to
DPReview at http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf505/

The image certainly seems to think it is the product of an F505.


It certainly seems to be the product of a Sony DSC-F505:
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropboxuserconten t.com%2Fu%2F31088803%2FLR--00068.jpg
or
http://tinyurl.com/nxdlnou

So

then I went to*my* photograph of *my* camera which I used when I
eventually sold it. See
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC1813.jpg It clearly
isn't the same as the one shown in DPReview link for the F505. So I
went to DPReview on the subject of the F707 and there was a picture
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf707/ which is but a different
view of mine. So Sony got their firmware data wrong when they made the
F707. I wonder how many other times this kind of thing has happened?
I've never heard of it before.

What may have happened on this occasion may have stemmed from the fact
that the F707 was a development of the F505. It may be they took a
whole block of code from the F505's ROM and planted it without further
checking in that for the F707. But still ...

Makes you think about the possible problems of building fully
autonomous cars. :-)


I think the lesson here is, Sony is not to be trusted.



--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #18  
Old January 21st 15, 11:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Digital Picture Frames

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

The iPad serves very well as a portfolio. Using Lightroom Mobile the
image files take up very little space, and they can be presented
manually or as a slide show.

I would like something a little larger than an iPad screen, if I can
find such a thing.


then repurpose an old laptop.


So - when you can't answer my original question, you change the
question.


i did no such thing.

old laptops make for a perfect digital picture frame since they're not
useful for much anymore and the display is larger than an ipad, which
is *exactly* what you asked for.

as usual, you are arguing just to argue.
  #19  
Old January 21st 15, 11:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Errors in camera Exif - was Digital Picture Frames

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I originally thought of an album, perhaps two images per page, but
when m*short_list* came out as large as it had I realised and album
was not the answer. Why so many? Well one of the first goes back to
2002. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../LR--00068.jpg
Hand held with available light, Sony 505, 5 MP. And they go on from
there.


--- snip ---

I had second thoughts after I posted the above: surely the camera was
a F707, not a F505. After all the F505 was only 2.1 MP and surely that
shot of the Sydney Town Hall organ was not the product of a 2.1 MP
camera?

So I queried the posted image using the Exif tab on the Firefox tool
bar and it comes up with "Sony DSC-F505" with a tab which linked to
DPReview at http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf505/


according to exiftool, http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
there is no sony f505 (or f707) anywhere in the exif data of the above
image.

the relevant tags a
Make : SONY
Camera Model Name : CYBERSHOT
Date/Time Original : 2002:08:05 12:32:20
Create Date : 2002:08:05 12:32:20

So then I went to*my* photograph of *my* camera which I used when I
eventually sold it. See
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC1813.jpg It clearly
isn't the same as the one shown in DPReview link for the F505. So I
went to DPReview on the subject of the F707 and there was a picture
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf707/ which is but a different
view of mine. So Sony got their firmware data wrong when they made the
F707. I wonder how many other times this kind of thing has happened?
I've never heard of it before.


sigma is well known for reusing rom chips and does it regularly in
their lenses.

What may have happened on this occasion may have stemmed from the fact
that the F707 was a development of the F505. It may be they took a
whole block of code from the F505's ROM and planted it without further
checking in that for the F707. But still ...


or the utility you're using to read exif data is wrong.

Makes you think about the possible problems of building fully
autonomous cars. :-)


completely irrelevant.
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Old January 21st 15, 11:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article 2015012114541075244-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

I think the lesson here is, Sony is not to be trusted.


nope.
 




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