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Mirrorless, filmless.
What happened to the filmless camera?
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Mirrorless, filmless.
On 2010-09-13 13:05:21 -0700, Irwell said:
What happened to the filmless camera? Just use your head. ;-) -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Mirrorless, filmless.
"Irwell" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:20:15 -0400, rwalker wrote: On 2010-09-13 13:05:21 -0700, Irwell said: What happened to the filmless camera? Mine's on the desktop beside me. So when did the term 'filmless' drop from descriptions of digital cameras? When do you expect the term 'mirrorless cameras' to become redundant? This was only about ten years ago. http://www.dpreview.com/news/9903/99031802olyslr.asp ``The C-2500L filmless digital camera is the fifth filmless camera model Olympus has revealed in the last four months. Each model surpasses the expectations, in either features/performance or value, of the industry at large. What better demonstration of market leadership can there be than when a single company introduces products like the D-400 Zoom, the D-620L, the C-2000 Zoom and now the C-2500L,'' said Ben La Marca, Group Vice President of Digital Marketing & Development. ``Olympus is the undeniable market leader in the filmless digital camera arena.'' At that time filmlessness was remarkable enough to mention. Today it's assumed, and anything that still uses film is remarkable enough to mention that it does. For that matter, I think the D in "DSLR" is now superfluous, and I've generally stopped using that term unless there's some reason to differentiate from film-using SLRs. |
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Mirrorless, filmless.
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:13 -0400, Neil Harrington wrote:
"Irwell" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:20:15 -0400, rwalker wrote: On 2010-09-13 13:05:21 -0700, Irwell said: What happened to the filmless camera? Mine's on the desktop beside me. So when did the term 'filmless' drop from descriptions of digital cameras? When do you expect the term 'mirrorless cameras' to become redundant? This was only about ten years ago. http://www.dpreview.com/news/9903/99031802olyslr.asp ``The C-2500L filmless digital camera is the fifth filmless camera model Olympus has revealed in the last four months. Each model surpasses the expectations, in either features/performance or value, of the industry at large. What better demonstration of market leadership can there be than when a single company introduces products like the D-400 Zoom, the D-620L, the C-2000 Zoom and now the C-2500L,'' said Ben La Marca, Group Vice President of Digital Marketing & Development. ``Olympus is the undeniable market leader in the filmless digital camera arena.'' At that time filmlessness was remarkable enough to mention. Today it's assumed, and anything that still uses film is remarkable enough to mention that it does. For that matter, I think the D in "DSLR" is now superfluous, and I've generally stopped using that term unless there's some reason to differentiate from film-using SLRs. Mirror-less cameras just sounds silly. Rather like driving a carburettor-less car? |
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Mirrorless, filmless.
"Irwell" wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:13 -0400, Neil Harrington wrote: "Irwell" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:20:15 -0400, rwalker wrote: On 2010-09-13 13:05:21 -0700, Irwell said: What happened to the filmless camera? Mine's on the desktop beside me. So when did the term 'filmless' drop from descriptions of digital cameras? When do you expect the term 'mirrorless cameras' to become redundant? This was only about ten years ago. http://www.dpreview.com/news/9903/99031802olyslr.asp ``The C-2500L filmless digital camera is the fifth filmless camera model Olympus has revealed in the last four months. Each model surpasses the expectations, in either features/performance or value, of the industry at large. What better demonstration of market leadership can there be than when a single company introduces products like the D-400 Zoom, the D-620L, the C-2000 Zoom and now the C-2500L,'' said Ben La Marca, Group Vice President of Digital Marketing & Development. ``Olympus is the undeniable market leader in the filmless digital camera arena.'' At that time filmlessness was remarkable enough to mention. Today it's assumed, and anything that still uses film is remarkable enough to mention that it does. For that matter, I think the D in "DSLR" is now superfluous, and I've generally stopped using that term unless there's some reason to differentiate from film-using SLRs. Mirror-less cameras just sounds silly. Rather like driving a carburettor-less car? chuckle I'm trying to remember the last car I owned that had a carburetor. |
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Mirrorless, filmless.
On 2010-09-14 16:05:57 -0400, Irwell said:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:13 -0400, Neil Harrington wrote: "Irwell" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:20:15 -0400, rwalker wrote: On 2010-09-13 13:05:21 -0700, Irwell said: What happened to the filmless camera? Mine's on the desktop beside me. So when did the term 'filmless' drop from descriptions of digital cameras? When do you expect the term 'mirrorless cameras' to become redundant? This was only about ten years ago. http://www.dpreview.com/news/9903/99031802olyslr.asp ``The C-2500L filmless digital camera is the fifth filmless camera model Olympus has revealed in the last four months. Each model surpasses the expectations, in either features/performance or value, of the industry at large. What better demonstration of market leadership can there be than when a single company introduces products like the D-400 Zoom, the D-620L, the C-2000 Zoom and now the C-2500L,'' said Ben La Marca, Group Vice President of Digital Marketing & Development. ``Olympus is the undeniable market leader in the filmless digital camera arena.'' At that time filmlessness was remarkable enough to mention. Today it's assumed, and anything that still uses film is remarkable enough to mention that it does. For that matter, I think the D in "DSLR" is now superfluous, and I've generally stopped using that term unless there's some reason to differentiate from film-using SLRs. Mirror-less cameras just sounds silly. Rather like driving a carburettor-less car? Or a CRT-less television (or desktop computer), caffeine-less diet Coke, etc. I like the term Popular Photography has settled on: ILC (interchangeable lens camera) which leaves the mirror or not mirror (DSLR or not) out of the mix. -- Michael |
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Mirrorless, filmless.
? "Irwell" ?????? ??? ?????? ... What happened to the filmless camera? When did the greenhouse effect become climatic change? :-) -- Tzortzakakis Dimitrios major in electrical engineering mechanized infantry reservist hordad AT otenet DOT gr |
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Mirrorless, filmless.
Irwell wrote:
What happened to the filmless camera? It got a chip on its shoulder. Allen |
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Mirrorless, filmless.
On 9/15/10 PDT 1:59 PM, Allen wrote:
Irwell wrote: What happened to the filmless camera? It got a chip on its shoulder. Allen Ta-dum! Nice one..... There was an attempt to produce a thin plate that'd convert a film camera to digital format, but it got..... nowhere. Way too expensive then to make a full size sensor in addition to other engineering and mfg. hurdles. -- John McWilliams Remember: Opinions are like buttocks; only those which are well-formed should be shown in public. |
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Mirrorless, filmless.
"John McWilliams" wrote in message ... On 9/15/10 PDT 1:59 PM, Allen wrote: Irwell wrote: What happened to the filmless camera? It got a chip on its shoulder. Allen Ta-dum! Nice one..... There was an attempt to produce a thin plate that'd convert a film camera to digital format, but it got..... nowhere. Way too expensive then to make a full size sensor in addition to other engineering and mfg. hurdles. Yes, that would have been nice, but . . . I believe one big problem with late-model 35mm SLRs is that they do the final metering touch-up by light reflected off the film surface when the shutter opens -- and CCDs etc. just wouldn't work properly with that system. |
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