'Cold' - photographs of Antarctica

My photobook 'Cold' on a sailing trip to Antarctica is just out. Check out
www.cold-the-book.com.

Hope you enjoy the images. I certainly enjoyed shooting them ;-)

T.Heslenfeld
The Netherlands
www.cold-the-book.com

There's enough newsgroup spamming going on without you trying to sell your
books in a every group with photo in its name, many of which clearly
forbiding commercial advertisments.

All you are doing now is damaging the Usenet experience of others as you try
to profit from your venture. When you posted individule photos of your
trip - photographed (according to you) with a film camera there may have
been some merit but now it's all just an attempt by you to sell goods for a
profit... And in a digital group too!

Douglas

"T.Heslenfeld" office-at-thijsheslenfeld-dot-com wrote in message
...
My photobook 'Cold' on a sailing trip to Antarctica is just out. Check out
www.cold-the-book.com.

Hope you enjoy the images. I certainly enjoyed shooting them ;-)

T.Heslenfeld
The Netherlands
www.cold-the-book.com

Douglas if I ever an lucky enough to travel like Heslenfeld or produce
photographs of his artistry and quality I would be proud to make a
book and post it here. Mr Heslenfeld and his work certainly merits a
place in this newsgroup.
If you haven't seen his photographs you are missing something
wonderful.

"Douglas" wrote in message
...
There's enough newsgroup spamming going on without you trying to
sell your books in a every group with photo in its name, many of
which clearly forbiding commercial advertisments.

All you are doing now is damaging the Usenet experience of others as
you try to profit from your venture. When you posted individule
photos of your trip - photographed (according to you) with a film
camera there may have been some merit but now it's all just an
attempt by you to sell goods for a profit... And in a digital group
too!

Douglas

"T.Heslenfeld" office-at-thijsheslenfeld-dot-com wrote in message
...
My photobook 'Cold' on a sailing trip to Antarctica is just out.
Check out www.cold-the-book.com.

Hope you enjoy the images. I certainly enjoyed shooting them ;-)

T.Heslenfeld
The Netherlands
www.cold-the-book.com

Quite to opposite Frank.
I enjoy seeing his photo. I just object to him trying to sell a book in
these groups when the charter of them specifically prohibits such activity.
If you can't see the difference, you deserver to be bombarded with
everything from fake Nike to photo books.

There is no distinction between the type of goods on sale, only that you
shouldn't try and sell GOODS in these groups. I said nothing about the merit
or otherwise of his photography, just his method of trying to sell goods in
a recreational group forbidding such practices.


"Frank Arthur" wrote in message
.. .
Douglas if I ever an lucky enough to travel like Heslenfeld or produce
photographs of his artistry and quality I would be proud to make a book
and post it here. Mr Heslenfeld and his work certainly merits a place in
this newsgroup.
If you haven't seen his photographs you are missing something wonderful.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:00:51 +0100, "T.Heslenfeld"
office-at-thijsheslenfeld-dot-com wrote:
: My photobook 'Cold' on a sailing trip to Antarctica is just out. Check out
: www.cold-the-book.com.
:
: Hope you enjoy the images. I certainly enjoyed shooting them ;-)
:
: T.Heslenfeld
: The Netherlands
: www.cold-the-book.com

You're a little late. "Cold" is the title of a book by Laurence McKinley
Gould, who explored Antarctica with Admiral Richard E. Byrd almost eighty
years ago.

Bob

"TH O" wrote in message
...

You're kidding, right? How ironic that you are complaining about
"damaging the Usenet experience" considering the effect your flame wars
have had in the rec.photo groups.



Actually you need to re-assess that statement THO. It is "My defence" of
someone who thought they could somehow get an advantage over me by engaging
in criminal activity... It's not a flame war.

Eventually it will not have damaged Usenet but proven that when authorities
responsible for policing theft of copyright, Identity theft and other
on-line activates that do damage a community in general don't take action,
eventually it will reach a level where they have to.

It is terribly unfortunate that this upsets subscribers to the groups but
seriously THO... If he is allowed to do as he pleases and use pornography
pasted over a Pro's images as well as commit fraud when setting up sites to
post his attacks to, who is to say anyone is safe from such behaviour?

If you engage me in a discussion about photography and/or printing, you'll
get polite and responsible replies. If you steal my images, defame my
clients and use my identity fraudulently... You'll be treated the same way
he is.

Douglas

"Robert Coe" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:00:51 +0100, "T.Heslenfeld"
office-at-thijsheslenfeld-dot-com wrote:
: My photobook 'Cold' on a sailing trip to Antarctica is just out. Check
out
: www.cold-the-book.com.
:
: Hope you enjoy the images. I certainly enjoyed shooting them ;-)
:
: T.Heslenfeld
: The Netherlands
: www.cold-the-book.com

You're a little late. "Cold" is the title of a book by Laurence McKinley
Gould, who explored Antarctica with Admiral Richard E. Byrd almost eighty
years ago.

Bob

Let's not let convention and ethics into this discussion Bob.

"Douglas" wrote in message
...

"Robert Coe" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:00:51 +0100, "T.Heslenfeld"
office-at-thijsheslenfeld-dot-com wrote:
: My photobook 'Cold' on a sailing trip to Antarctica is just out.
Check out
: www.cold-the-book.com.
:
: Hope you enjoy the images. I certainly enjoyed shooting them ;-)
:
: T.Heslenfeld
: The Netherlands
: www.cold-the-book.com

You're a little late. "Cold" is the title of a book by Laurence
McKinley
Gould, who explored Antarctica with Admiral Richard E. Byrd almost
eighty
years ago.

Bob

Let's not let convention and ethics into this discussion Bob.
Only in your mind is "ethical" concern about Heslenfeld's book.
Your bitching here is distasteful, unneccessary and of no help to
furthering
the aims and efforts of the newsgroup users here. Who else but you is
complaining about Heslenfeld's book?

"Frank Arthur" wrote in message
. ..

Your bitching here is distasteful, unneccessary and of no help to
furthering
the aims and efforts of the newsgroup users here. Who else but you is
complaining about Heslenfeld's book?



FYI and anyone else who thinks there are gray shades to black and white,
including Heslenfeld who has been posting to newsgroups long enough to know
they each have a charter and he chose to ignor it... A far too frequent
event.

Exert from the charter of this group, available he
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/36...igital-systems

What Is Not Permitted:

This newsgroup explicitly prohibits the posting of advertisements of any
kind, whether personal, private or commercial, as well as all other
promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to
photography.

Is that clear enough for your Frank or do I need to break it down further
for you?

Douglas

"Douglas" wrote in message
...

"Frank Arthur" wrote in message
. ..

Your bitching here is distasteful, unneccessary and of no help to
furthering
the aims and efforts of the newsgroup users here. Who else but you
is
complaining about Heslenfeld's book?



FYI and anyone else who thinks there are gray shades to black and
white, including Heslenfeld who has been posting to newsgroups long
enough to know they each have a charter and he chose to ignor it...
A far too frequent event.

Exert from the charter of this group, available he
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/36...igital-systems

What Is Not Permitted:

This newsgroup explicitly prohibits the posting of advertisements of
any
kind, whether personal, private or commercial, as well as all other
promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to
photography.

Is that clear enough for your Frank or do I need to break it down
further for you?

Douglas
You must be really dense not to grasp the message from this newsgroup
readers.
They would rather see Heslenfeld's images or story about his book then
read
your reading of the rules and regulations.
In short. Is Douglas contributing more to the newsgroup or
T.Heslenfeld?