"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)

In article , David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

Notice the LCD on the new Nikon D3 and D300? 3 inches -- and a bit
over 900,000 pixels. BIG jump!

officially, nikon calls it 920k *dots* instead of 306k pixels, which
unfortunately, is how some lcd screens are marketed.

http://nikonimaging.com/global/produ.../d300/index.ht
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RichA wrote:
Video on DSLRs.

Maybe on some entry level DSLR or a pseudo-DSLR with an electronic VF,
no
mirror-prism and only a DSLR form and exchangeable lens system.
For me I will leave video well away from any DSLR I own.
I think the inevitable result of "Live View" will be the new school of
"pre-chimping" "pros" who will have to develop new skills to avoid
ending up flat on their backs providing others with other photo ops.
Having said all that, I will have a D3 in my future and I will discover
for myself just how useful "Live View" will be. It just seems the D3 and
D300 are so much more than "Live View."

RichA wrote:

1/500th sec exposures every 1/30th of a second...In news photography,
how long would stills last?

The exposure times in film/ENG cameras can already be very short, just
sampled at traditional rates (24, 30 fps). (difference between
"sampling frequency" and "exposure time").

News photography has to be adequate to news photography and that's all.

Photography is a deliberate process to an end product. The end product
for "amateurs" or fine art photogs wishing to produce finely detailed
and beautiful images, or pros doing product photography or weddings and
news gatherers with short deadlines all have very different end needs.


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On Aug 24, 1:50 am, "David J Taylor" -this-
bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk wrote:
David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

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Notice the LCD on the new Nikon D3 and D300? 3 inches -- and a bit
over 900,000 pixels. BIG jump!

Yes, that's VGA resolution, which was a pleasure to use on the EVF on the
Minolta A2 from a few years ago. Same resolution as the Epson
P2000/3000/5000.

David

Now imagine a radical shift in video viewership to iPods. Do they
really need 10 megapixel resolution? Or even HD? What looks like s---
on an HD television 40" wide looks as good as it can get on a tiny 2"
screen.

On Aug 24, 8:45 am, Savageduck wrote:
RichA wrote:
Video on DSLRs.

Maybe on some entry level DSLR or a pseudo-DSLR with an electronic VF,
no
mirror-prism and only a DSLR form and exchangeable lens system.
For me I will leave video well away from any DSLR I own.

You'll have about as much chance of being able to do that in 3 years
as you do now of screening out Live View and dust cleaning from your
DSLR choices.

On Aug 25, 10:41 am, Alan Browne
wrote:
RichA wrote:
1/500th sec exposures every 1/30th of a second...In news photography,
how long would stills last?

The exposure times in film/ENG cameras can already be very short, just
sampled at traditional rates (24, 30 fps). (difference between
"sampling frequency" and "exposure time").

News photography has to be adequate to news photography and that's all.

Photography is a deliberate process to an end product. The end product
for "amateurs" or fine art photogs wishing to produce finely detailed
and beautiful images, or pros doing product photography or weddings and
news gatherers with short deadlines all have very different end needs.

--

Wouldn't you describe some sports photos as fine art? Despite the
fact they machine-gun each scene with hundreds of images?

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:45:20 -0700, De Duck Savage wrote:

Having said all that, I will have a D3 in my future and I will discover
for myself just how useful "Live View" will be. It just seems the D3
and D300 are so much more than "Live View."

The D3 is too large to have a place in my future. But I may get
"Live View" in a DSLR anyway since it may trickle down into a future
body, a D90 or its successor. It's nice but not a critical feature
though. I'd much rather have a high resolution LCD that could allow
greater magnification than is currently offered, coupled with more
responsive navigation. If the "Live View" could be transmitted not
just to a remote computer but to a pair of Video Goggles, the need
for a rotating, articulating LCD display wouldn't be as great.

ASAAR wrote:

The D3 is too large to have a place in my future. But I may get
"Live View" in a DSLR anyway since it may trickle down into a future
body, a D90 or its successor. It's nice but not a critical feature
though.


Live View isn't a "critical feature" until you have used it. Once you
have gotten used to Live View, you are unlikely ever again to buy a
DSLR that does not have that feature.

On Aug 26, 8:31 am, Rita Ä Berkowitz ritaberk2O04 @aol.com wrote:
Tony Polson wrote:
The D3 is too large to have a place in my future. But I may get
"Live View" in a DSLR anyway since it may trickle down into a future
body, a D90 or its successor. It's nice but not a critical feature
though.

Live View isn't a "critical feature" until you have used it. Once you
have gotten used to Live View, you are unlikely ever again to buy a
DSLR that does not have that feature.

Which dSLR do you have that has live view? How easy is it to use?

Rita

Olympus E-330, 410 and 510. The E-330s is articulated and has two
live view modes, one uses the main sensor, the other uses a secondary
8 meg sensor. Ease of use is one thing Live View provides in certain
situations.
Ground-level macros, shots over people's heads (ever seen a press
photoshoot?) critical 10x manual focusing, etc.

ASAAR wrote:
De Duck Savage wrote:

Having said all that, I will have a D3 in my future and I will discover
for myself just how useful "Live View" will be. It just seems the D3
and D300 are so much more than "Live View."

The D3 is too large to have a place in my future. But I may get
"Live View" in a DSLR anyway since it may trickle down into a future
body, a D90 or its successor. It's nice but not a critical feature
though. I'd much rather have a high resolution LCD that could allow
greater magnification than is currently offered, coupled with more
responsive navigation.

I thought the D200 LCD & navagation (D80 is presumably the same) was
vastly improved over the D70 and one of the main things I really liked
about that upgrade.

If the "Live View" could be transmitted not
just to a remote computer but to a pair of Video Goggles, the need
for a rotating, articulating LCD display wouldn't be as great.

Maybe... the D3 works with an optional wifi adapter the photogs wear on
their belts and the news editor can use remote control software to
browse saved images in several cameras as they continue shooting and
download shots for instant publishing.

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