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"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)
just bob wrote:
"David J Taylor" wrote in message .uk... Dennis' Newsgroups wrote: [] Same here (not quite as much time on composition though as I don't have that much time), but I do take a fair amount of time and would like live view in several circumstances. I don't care if they do put video on the DSLR if they don't make compromises on the still frames. I wouldn't use video though on it - that is what a digital video camera is for. [] Dennis But there are times when it's more convenient to take along one camera rather than two, particularly if size or weight matters. Absolutely. So cram as much as you can in the little things! I would hardly describe my DSLR as a "little thing". What probably matters is firmware and RAM capacity rather than anything else. David |
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"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)
"Dennis' Newsgroups" wrote in message . .. "Moonstarer" wrote in message ... I take my time when I shoot too (each exposure runs an average of 5 minutes exposure time, not to mention the 10-20 minutes time it takes to compose the shot) and that's why I need live view. Same here (not quite as much time on composition though as I don't have that much time), but I do take a fair amount of time and would like live view in several circumstances. I don't care if they do put video on the DSLR if they don't make compromises on the still frames. I wouldn't use video though on it - that is what a digital video camera is for. Dennis I think DSLR Like cameras will become better and better and are probably closer to what we will be getting in the future. Less moving parts. Tom |
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"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)
"David J Taylor" wrote in message .uk... just bob wrote: "David J Taylor" wrote in message .uk... Dennis' Newsgroups wrote: [] Same here (not quite as much time on composition though as I don't have that much time), but I do take a fair amount of time and would like live view in several circumstances. I don't care if they do put video on the DSLR if they don't make compromises on the still frames. I wouldn't use video though on it - that is what a digital video camera is for. [] Dennis But there are times when it's more convenient to take along one camera rather than two, particularly if size or weight matters. Absolutely. So cram as much as you can in the little things! I would hardly describe my DSLR as a "little thing". What probably matters is firmware and RAM capacity rather than anything else. True, what I guess I meant was, don't degrade the performance and IQ just to put P&S features in a 1-series bodies but as far as the 40D and 400D series, load them up with as much fun features as you can. I love leaving my 1D2N at home and packing this little 40D without the grip and external flash for walk-around stuff. My back likes it, too! |
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"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)
"just bob" kilbyfan@aoldotcom wrote in message ... "David J Taylor" wrote in message .uk... just bob wrote: "David J Taylor" wrote in message .uk... Dennis' Newsgroups wrote: [] Same here (not quite as much time on composition though as I don't have that much time), but I do take a fair amount of time and would like live view in several circumstances. I don't care if they do put video on the DSLR if they don't make compromises on the still frames. I wouldn't use video though on it - that is what a digital video camera is for. [] Dennis But there are times when it's more convenient to take along one camera rather than two, particularly if size or weight matters. Absolutely. So cram as much as you can in the little things! I would hardly describe my DSLR as a "little thing". What probably matters is firmware and RAM capacity rather than anything else. True, what I guess I meant was, don't degrade the performance and IQ just to put P&S features in a 1-series bodies but as far as the 40D and 400D series, load them up with as much fun features as you can. I love leaving my 1D2N at home and packing this little 40D without the grip and external flash for walk-around stuff. My back likes it, too! I agree up to a point, they can put as many features in as they like but just make sure it does not degrade the real must have features. |
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"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)
On Oct 6, 2:53 pm, "Just Shoot Me" wrote:
"Dennis' Newsgroups" wrote in message . .. "Moonstarer" wrote in message .. . I take my time when I shoot too (each exposure runs an average of 5 minutes exposure time, not to mention the 10-20 minutes time it takes to compose the shot) and that's why I need live view. Same here (not quite as much time on composition though as I don't have that much time), but I do take a fair amount of time and would like live view in several circumstances. I don't care if they do put video on the DSLR if they don't make compromises on the still frames. I wouldn't use video though on it - that is what a digital video camera is for. Dennis I think DSLR Like cameras will become better and better and are probably closer to what we will be getting in the future. Less moving parts. Tom Inevitably, the reflex mirror is doomed. |
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"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)
RichA added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
I think DSLR Like cameras will become better and better and are probably closer to what we will be getting in the future. Less moving parts. Inevitably, the reflex mirror is doomed. Rich, please forgive me for coming into this thread very late, but I just noticed it. Given that the major technologies seem to be some variant of EVF and some variant of DSLR, how do you suppose camera makers might be able to offer the many advantages of DSLRs, such as less shutter lag, better lenses, and the ability to port your inventory of glass, external flash and accessories when you upgrade your system, yet also take advantage of the smaller size of the EVFs? I don't know enough about either technology and I was an EVF zealot for years until some good people "enlightened" me that for what I want to do, I would never be happy without a DSLR. Now, do I like the large size and weight? Well, no. And, I don't like having to haul multiple lenses around or the inability to quickly view a just-shot image in the viewfinder, the latter being impossible because of the clunky mirror. So, again, my apologies if this has been answered and I missed it. I'm just curious that if the reflext mirror is doomed, what might replace it? I suppose one other technocracy might be some sort of "thing" that can either reflect up 90 degrees into the view finder or be 100% transparent to allow the analog light to get to the sensors, perhaps by electrically changing a mirror to clear. I've seen things on various TV channels that suggest a lot of research is being done on materials that can have their basic properties drastically changed by specialized application of very small amounts of electrical charge. Thanks and have a great day! -- HP, aka Jerry |
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"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)
In article . com,
RichA wrote: Inevitably, the reflex mirror is doomed. What do you care? You don't own a camera or know anything about photography. Have you ever made a prediction that has come true? |
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"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)
Scott W wrote:
RichA wrote: On Oct 6, 2:53 pm, "Just Shoot Me" wrote: I think DSLR Like cameras will become better and better and are probably closer to what we will be getting in the future. Less moving parts. Inevitably, the reflex mirror is doomed. Only if they find a way to get a non reflex camera to auto-focus fast. In a DSLR the auto-focus uses phase detection, which gives the camera information about how far off it is and in which direction, handy for tracking a moving object. In a point and shoot they have to look for max contrast, ok for objects that aren't moving and where you don't mind taking a while for the camera to focus. The reason DSLRs use that system is because they can't use the cheaper contrast in the image sensor method used by P&S cameras. Being a dedicated hardware assisted focussing method, the phase detection system is faster. But there's no reason why the phase detection system can't be put into a non-DSLR if people are prepared to pay for its virtues. -- Chris Malcolm DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] |
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"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)
On 2007-08-20 18:36:25 -0700, RichA said:
Video on DSLRs. Let us just say it is not a feature I would be willing to pay extra for. If I want video, I want much higher quality video than any DSLR is likely to produce in the near future. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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"Live View" is leading to the inevitable conclusion (that most won't like)
On 2007-08-20 21:36:25 -0400, RichA said:
Video on DSLRs. If I wanted to shoot video, I would buy a f*kn video camera, I have zippo, not, not one iota of intereset in video. Please don't laden my DSLR with a video interface. -- Jim |
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