Anyone using Google Crome yet??

And yes this is on topic as it directly affects photographers that upload
photos to web sites via a browser

Original URL:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09...me_eula_sucks/
Burned by Chrome
By Chris Mellor
Published Wednesday 3rd September 2008 13:39 GMT

Astute Reg readers have pointed out a Chrome condition of service that
effectively lets Google use any of your copyrighted material posted to the
web via Chrome without paying you a cent.

Here's the relevant section 11.1 of the Chrome EULA
(http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html):

11. Content licence from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights that you already hold in
Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services. By
submitting, posting or displaying the content, you give Google a perpetual,
irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive licence to reproduce,
adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and
distribute any Content that you submit, post or display on or through the
Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to
display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain
Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.



Granting Google 'a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and
non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish,
publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content that you
submit, post or display on or through' Chrome is coming it rich.

Suppose Google does this to material you have posted that's not yours? No
problem. It has a get-out-of-jail card signed by you in section 11.4 of the
EULA:

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power
and authority necessary to grant the above licence.

But you may be posting material via Chrome to your employer's site and it
owns the copyright of anything you create in work time. What then if Google
adapts, modifies and distributes it? Your fan has brown stuff all over it
but none of it sticks to Google.

Back in 2001, El Reg first revealed how Microsoft's new single sign-on
Passport, used for all its web services including Hotmail, also appeared to
grab your intellectual property. Microsoft issued a reworded
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/03..._data_and_biz/) Terms of
Use
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04...rage_prompted/) a
few days later. Similar land-grabs have been attempted other operators
including MySpace
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06...ragg_myspace/), amongst
others.

Copyright-sensitive sysadms may banish Chrome from their networks because of
this. Google's been asked how it fits in with its general 'Do no evil' ethic
but wasn't immediately able to respond - because they're not in their office
yet.®



--
God made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom?

Atheist Chaplain wrote:
And yes this is on topic as it directly affects photographers that upload
photos to web sites via a browser

Original URL:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09...me_eula_sucks/
Burned by Chrome
By Chris Mellor
Published Wednesday 3rd September 2008 13:39 GMT

Astute Reg readers have pointed out a Chrome condition of service that
effectively lets Google use any of your copyrighted material posted to the
web via Chrome without paying you a cent.

Here's the relevant section 11.1 of the Chrome EULA
(http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html):

11. Content licence from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights that you already hold in
Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services. By
submitting, posting or displaying the content, you give Google a perpetual,
irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive licence to reproduce,
adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and
distribute any Content that you submit, post or display on or through the
Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to
display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain
Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.



Granting Google 'a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and
non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish,
publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content that you
submit, post or display on or through' Chrome is coming it rich.

Suppose Google does this to material you have posted that's not yours? No
problem. It has a get-out-of-jail card signed by you in section 11.4 of the
EULA:

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power
and authority necessary to grant the above licence.

But you may be posting material via Chrome to your employer's site and it
owns the copyright of anything you create in work time. What then if Google
adapts, modifies and distributes it? Your fan has brown stuff all over it
but none of it sticks to Google.

Back in 2001, El Reg first revealed how Microsoft's new single sign-on
Passport, used for all its web services including Hotmail, also appeared to
grab your intellectual property. Microsoft issued a reworded
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/03..._data_and_biz/) Terms of
Use
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04...rage_prompted/) a
few days later. Similar land-grabs have been attempted other operators
including MySpace
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06...ragg_myspace/), amongst
others.

Copyright-sensitive sysadms may banish Chrome from their networks because of
this. Google's been asked how it fits in with its general 'Do no evil' ethic
but wasn't immediately able to respond - because they're not in their office
yet.®



Already modified.
Someone just copied their EULA from other Goggle apps, without,
apparently, reading the thing and realizing that this wasn't applicable
to a browser.

"Ron Hunter" wrote in message
...
: Atheist Chaplain wrote:
: And yes this is on topic as it directly affects photographers that upload
: photos to web sites via a browser
:
: Original URL:
: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09...me_eula_sucks/
: Burned by Chrome
: By Chris Mellor
: Published Wednesday 3rd September 2008 13:39 GMT
:
: Astute Reg readers have pointed out a Chrome condition of service that
: effectively lets Google use any of your copyrighted material posted to
the
: web via Chrome without paying you a cent.
:
: Here's the relevant section 11.1 of the Chrome EULA
: (http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html):
:
: 11. Content licence from you
:
: 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights that you already hold in
: Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services. By
: submitting, posting or displaying the content, you give Google a
perpetual,
: irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive licence to
reproduce,
: adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and
: distribute any Content that you submit, post or display on or through the
: Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to
: display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for
certain
: Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.
:
:
:
: Granting Google 'a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and
: non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish,
: publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content that you
: submit, post or display on or through' Chrome is coming it rich.
:
: Suppose Google does this to material you have posted that's not yours? No
: problem. It has a get-out-of-jail card signed by you in section 11.4 of
the
: EULA:
:
: 11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights,
power
: and authority necessary to grant the above licence.
:
: But you may be posting material via Chrome to your employer's site and it
: owns the copyright of anything you create in work time. What then if
Google
: adapts, modifies and distributes it? Your fan has brown stuff all over it
: but none of it sticks to Google.
:
: Back in 2001, El Reg first revealed how Microsoft's new single sign-on
: Passport, used for all its web services including Hotmail, also appeared
to
: grab your intellectual property. Microsoft issued a reworded
: (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/03..._data_and_biz/) Terms of
: Use
:
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04...rage_prompted/) a
: few days later. Similar land-grabs have been attempted other operators
: including MySpace
: (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06...ragg_myspace/), amongst
: others.
:
: Copyright-sensitive sysadms may banish Chrome from their networks because
of
: this. Google's been asked how it fits in with its general 'Do no evil'
ethic
: but wasn't immediately able to respond - because they're not in their
office
: yet.®
:
:
:
: Already modified.
: Someone just copied their EULA from other Goggle apps, without,
: apparently, reading the thing and realizing that this wasn't applicable
: to a browser.


I was wondering how to post stuff via my Chrome reader..

"Ron Hunter" wrote in message
...



Already modified.
Someone just copied their EULA from other Goggle apps, without,
apparently, reading the thing and realizing that this wasn't applicable to
a browser.

Sweet, thanks :-)

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Don Hirschberg

"Atheist Chaplain" wrote in message
...
And yes this is on topic as it directly affects photographers that upload
photos to web sites via a browser

Original URL:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09...me_eula_sucks/
Burned by Chrome
By Chris Mellor
Published Wednesday 3rd September 2008 13:39 GMT

Astute Reg readers have pointed out a Chrome condition of service that
effectively lets Google use any of your copyrighted material posted to the
web via Chrome without paying you a cent.

Here's the relevant section 11.1 of the Chrome EULA
(http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html):

11. Content licence from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights that you already hold in
Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services. By
submitting, posting or displaying the content, you give Google a
perpetual,
irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive licence to
reproduce,
adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and
distribute any Content that you submit, post or display on or through the
Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to
display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for
certain
Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.



Granting Google 'a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and
non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish,
publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content that you
submit, post or display on or through' Chrome is coming it rich.

Suppose Google does this to material you have posted that's not yours? No
problem. It has a get-out-of-jail card signed by you in section 11.4 of
the
EULA:

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power
and authority necessary to grant the above licence.

But you may be posting material via Chrome to your employer's site and it
owns the copyright of anything you create in work time. What then if
Google
adapts, modifies and distributes it? Your fan has brown stuff all over it
but none of it sticks to Google.


A browser does not constitute a "service".

Yes.
Where are the menus?
Has Google sided with Microsoft in the "Design software for three year olds" program?

Most likey will uninstall Chrome this weekend.

John

jaf wrote:
Yes.
Where are the menus?

There is a dropdown menu on the right upper side. It is fairly narrow
in scope.

I don't believe (never believed) that a programs quality was a function
of its menus...


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On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:08:17 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

jaf wrote:
Yes.
Where are the menus?

There is a dropdown menu on the right upper side. It is fairly narrow
in scope.

I don't believe (never believed) that a programs quality was a function
of its menus...

Read where Chrome needs some polish. It's pretty heavy on processor time.
See:
http://www.cnn.com:80/2008/TECH/ptec...ml?iref=nextin

Jack Mac wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:08:17 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

jaf wrote:
Yes.
Where are the menus?
There is a dropdown menu on the right upper side. It is fairly narrow
in scope.

I don't believe (never believed) that a programs quality was a function
of its menus...

Read where Chrome needs some polish. It's pretty heavy on processor time.
See:
http://www.cnn.com:80/2008/TECH/ptec...ml?iref=nextin

I did not look at that. This is all the noise that comes out when there
is a first release of a product.

In the Chrome menu (the 'page_V' icon) on the upper right you can report
bugs and issues to chrome. That is was (I hope) people are doing. I
found a few nits and one bug. (The bug is a sudden, approx. hourly,
disk thrashing episode of a couple minutes that bogs down the system
[plenty of remaining CPU, but system is disk bound]).

In summary, it needs polish in lots of places ... that's what beta
releases are all about.



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-- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin
-- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch.
-- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out.

Alan Browne wrote:
Jack Mac wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:08:17 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

jaf wrote:
Yes.
Where are the menus?
There is a dropdown menu on the right upper side. It is fairly narrow
in scope.

I don't believe (never believed) that a programs quality was a function
of its menus...
Read where Chrome needs some polish. It's pretty heavy on processor time.
See:
http://www.cnn.com:80/2008/TECH/ptec...ml?iref=nextin

I did not look at that. This is all the noise that comes out when there
is a first release of a product.

In the Chrome menu (the 'page_V' icon) on the upper right you can report
bugs and issues to chrome. That is was (I hope) people are doing. I
found a few nits and one bug. (The bug is a sudden, approx. hourly,
disk thrashing episode of a couple minutes that bogs down the system
[plenty of remaining CPU, but system is disk bound]).

In summary, it needs polish in lots of places ... that's what beta
releases are all about.



It also has some problems with Java apps. Seems to work on my desktop,
but can't access all features, and doesn't work at all on my laptop.