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  #21  
Old August 7th 18, 04:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Aug 7, 2018, Whisky-dave wrote
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On Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:03:42 UTC+1, Savageduck wrote:

What on earth is a “SPY CAMERA”?


A spy camera is pretty much any camera that the 'victim' isn't meant to see
especailly when taking pictures of the victim.

Don't cops use them for covert operations ?


That depends on the situation requirements, but for most surveillance work
you will find SLR/DSLR’s and consumer level zooms. There are budgets to be
met.

For specialized low light work nightvision scopes (there are quite a few
available) with attached camera are used.

https://www.pyleaudio.com/sku/PSHTCM88

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Old August 8th 18, 12:19 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 07:03:33 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Aug 6, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):


Your examples have no relevance to my statement. I was obviously talking
about a "SPY CAMERA." And the context was a camera that will have a
3,000 mm optical lens, and claimed by Nikon to be usable as a 6,000 mm
lens.


What on earth is a SPY CAMERA?

https://petapixel.com/2018/08/06/thi...eid=b307a66a15

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  #23  
Old August 8th 18, 12:45 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 19:19:50 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 07:03:33 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Aug 6, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):


Your examples have no relevance to my statement. I was obviously talking
about a "SPY CAMERA." And the context was a camera that will have a
3,000 mm optical lens, and claimed by Nikon to be usable as a 6,000 mm
lens.


What on earth is a SPY CAMERA?

https://petapixel.com/2018/08/06/thi...eid=b307a66a15


A "spy camera" would be a camera that could be secreted on person so
that no one would know the person was capable of taking photographs.
The common use would be to photograph documents, but there would be
other uses.

A camera with a long lens should more aptly be called a "surveillance
camera" because it would be used to photograph the activities of
people from a distance so the photographer would not be observed.

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  #24  
Old August 8th 18, 12:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Aug 7, 2018, Tony Cooper wrote
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 07:03:33 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:


What on earth is a “SPY CAMERA”?

https://petapixel.com/2018/08/06/thi...eid=b307a66a15


Now that makes perfect sense.

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Old August 8th 18, 01:18 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Aug 7, 2018, Tony Cooper wrote
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 19:19:50 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 07:03:33 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Aug 6, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):


Your examples have no relevance to my statement. I was obviously talking
about a "SPY CAMERA." And the context was a camera that will have a
3,000 mm optical lens, and claimed by Nikon to be usable as a 6,000 mm
lens.

What on earth is a “SPY CAMERA”?

https://petapixel.com/2018/08/06/thi...sguised-as-a-c
amera/?mc_cid=3592d3e7c3&mc_eid=b307a66a15


A "spy camera" would be a camera that could be secreted on person so
that no one would know the person was capable of taking photographs.
The common use would be to photograph documents, but there would be
other uses.


Hence my earler reference to the Minox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minox

A camera with a long lens should more aptly be called a "surveillance
camera" because it would be used to photograph the activities of
people from a distance so the photographer would not be observed.


Pretty much my agency’s usage for surveillance, as I said in an earler post
in this sub-thread was historically SLR + consumer zoom, or single FL
telephoto, and today DSLR + consumer zoo, or single FL telephoto, pretty much
what the competent hobbyist would have used back in the day, just as it is
today. In 25 years I never saw a decent telephoto, or zoom in use. Budget for
agencies other than the FEDs, and management’s tolerance for purchase
requests, dictate the level of photo-tech, and/or desirable camera tech
available to most Local, and even State law enforcement agencies. Federal
agencies operate a little differently.

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  #26  
Old August 8th 18, 01:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Tony Cooper[_2_]
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 17:18:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Aug 7, 2018, Tony Cooper wrote
(in ):

On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 19:19:50 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 07:03:33 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Aug 6, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):


Your examples have no relevance to my statement. I was obviously talking
about a "SPY CAMERA." And the context was a camera that will have a
3,000 mm optical lens, and claimed by Nikon to be usable as a 6,000 mm
lens.

What on earth is a SPY CAMERA?
https://petapixel.com/2018/08/06/thi...sguised-as-a-c
amera/?mc_cid=3592d3e7c3&mc_eid=b307a66a15


A "spy camera" would be a camera that could be secreted on person so
that no one would know the person was capable of taking photographs.
The common use would be to photograph documents, but there would be
other uses.


Hence my earler reference to the Minox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minox


Minox didn't make just the miniature spy cameras. I have a Minox 35
PL that uses standard 35mm film. At the time I bought it, it was the
best "pocket-sized" camera available. It had an external flash, but
that's become lost. I carried it on business trips where I wanted a
camera to photograph products. It was very useful at medical meetings
where competitors were exhibiting new products. Or, when I made a
trip to Zeiss NY where they were showing some not-yet-released product
that I wanted to show my salesmen photos of.

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Minox_35_PL


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Old August 8th 18, 02:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 8/7/2018 10:03 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On Aug 6, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):


Your examples have no relevance to my statement. I was obviously talking
about a "SPY CAMERA." And the context was a camera that will have a
3,000 mm optical lens, and claimed by Nikon to be usable as a 6,000 mm
lens.


What on earth is a “SPY CAMERA”?


Our spy satellites all have them



Just about the only thing I can think of which meets that definition is the
old Minox, and that doesn’t have a 3,000mm lens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minox



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Old August 8th 18, 02:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Aug 7, 2018, Tony Cooper wrote
(in ):

On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 17:18:14 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Aug 7, 2018, Tony Cooper wrote
(in ):

On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 19:19:50 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 07:03:33 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Aug 6, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):


Your examples have no relevance to my statement. I was obviously talking
about a "SPY CAMERA." And the context was a camera that will have a
3,000 mm optical lens, and claimed by Nikon to be usable as a 6,000 mm
lens.

What on earth is a “SPY CAMERA”?
https://petapixel.com/2018/08/06/thi...disguised-as-a
-c
amera/?mc_cid=3592d3e7c3&mc_eid=b307a66a15

A "spy camera" would be a camera that could be secreted on person so
that no one would know the person was capable of taking photographs.
The common use would be to photograph documents, but there would be
other uses.


Hence my earler reference to the Minox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minox


Minox didn't make just the miniature spy cameras. I have a Minox 35
PL that uses standard 35mm film. At the time I bought it, it was the
best "pocket-sized" camera available. It had an external flash, but
that's become lost. I carried it on business trips where I wanted a
camera to photograph products. It was very useful at medical meetings
where competitors were exhibiting new products. Or, when I made a
trip to Zeiss NY where they were showing some not-yet-released product
that I wanted to show my salesmen photos of.

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Minox_35_PL


Nice!

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  #29  
Old August 8th 18, 02:27 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 8/7/2018 11:24 AM, newshound wrote:
On 06/08/2018 20:07, PeterN wrote:
On 8/5/2018 10:22 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 21:46:42 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 8/4/2018 5:42 PM, John Turco wrote:
On 8/2/2018 4:36 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , John Turco
wrote:


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usenet posts are not email and the sig delimiter is invalid, which
means avg is worthless crap and from a company who loves to spam.


Yeah, but...what do you think of the P1000?

John

I will try it when it's available, and buy it if there is not too much
noise, or shutter lag.

That thing's going to need some extraordinary IS. Or a tripod.


Or high ISO capability, and extraordinary tracking ability. I suspect
it will not be suitable for me, but I will give it a fair try.


Without a tripod (or a pretty steady support, for a stationary target)
it is going to be very difficult to use at full zoom.


A gyro stabilizer might work too.
https://luminous-landscape.com/kenyon-labs-gyro-stabilizer/


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Old August 8th 18, 11:57 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 08/08/2018 02:27, PeterN wrote:
On 8/7/2018 11:24 AM, newshound wrote:
On 06/08/2018 20:07, PeterN wrote:
On 8/5/2018 10:22 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 21:46:42 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 8/4/2018 5:42 PM, John Turco wrote:
On 8/2/2018 4:36 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , John Turco
wrote:


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This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

usenet posts are not email and the sig delimiter is invalid, which
means avg is worthless crap and from a company who loves to spam.


Yeah, but...what do you think of the P1000?

John

I will try it when it's available, and buy it if there is not too much
noise, or shutter lag.

That thing's going to need some extraordinary IS. Or a tripod.


Or high ISO capability, and extraordinary tracking ability. I suspect
it will not be suitable for me, but I will give it a fair try.


Without a tripod (or a pretty steady support, for a stationary target)
it is going to be very difficult to use at full zoom.


A gyro stabilizer might work too.
https://luminous-landscape.com/kenyon-labs-gyro-stabilizer/


True, or even a SteadiCam rig. But I still suspect that many purchasers
will expect to be able to use the full zoom handheld, only to be
disappointed. Focus may be tricky too. That said, some people are going
to get lucky shots. But the small sensor is the thing which would put me
off.
 




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