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photograph church wedding without flash
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph a church wedding
without using a flash? The church's existing tungsten lighting is relatively dim even during the day. Any and all suggestions are welcomed. |
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photograph church wedding without flash
Get a 50 mm f:1,8 and a 100 mm f:1,8, put in a ISO 800 film (e.g. FujiPress
800), and get shooting, that should get you through most situations... -- Venlig hilsen/best regards René Ernst Nielsen +45 66122111 +45 28722962 "Andrew Liu" skrev i en meddelelse ... Does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph a church wedding without using a flash? The church's existing tungsten lighting is relatively dim even during the day. Any and all suggestions are welcomed. |
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photograph church wedding without flash
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:37:46 -0000, Andrew Liu
wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph a church wedding without using a flash? The church's existing tungsten lighting is relatively dim even during the day. Any and all suggestions are welcomed. This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, seriously. Are there restrictions on your using flash in the church, or what? I've been in churches like that where even ASA 800 wouldn't cut it. My suggestion would be to rent a Norman or Quantum portable unit and give yourself a couple days to get familiar with it. A powerful flash will allow you to use bouncelight or bare bulb methods to achieve better contrast ratios and also you'll be able to use a film type that is better suited to enlargements. Otherwise pray for sun and a change of venue to outside the church. These people are depending on you to provide a record of these memories. Severely underexposed results cannot be excused, and you will discover that brides are universally unforgiving. I pray for your soul... |
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photograph church wedding without flash
KBob wrote in
: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:37:46 -0000, Andrew Liu wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph a church wedding without using a flash? The church's existing tungsten lighting is relatively dim even during the day. Any and all suggestions are welcomed. This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, seriously. Are there restrictions on your using flash in the church, or what? I've been in churches like that where even ASA 800 wouldn't cut it. My suggestion would be to rent a Norman or Quantum portable unit and give yourself a couple days to get familiar with it. A powerful flash will allow you to use bouncelight or bare bulb methods to achieve better contrast ratios and also you'll be able to use a film type that is better suited to enlargements. Otherwise pray for sun and a change of venue to outside the church. These people are depending on you to provide a record of these memories. Severely underexposed results cannot be excused, and you will discover that brides are universally unforgiving. I pray for your soul... The church has a policy of not allowing any flash photogrphy inside the church. Once outside, anything goes! |
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photograph church wedding without flash
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:46:44 -0000, Andrew Liu
wrote: KBob wrote in : On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:37:46 -0000, Andrew Liu wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph a church wedding without using a flash? The church's existing tungsten lighting is relatively dim even during the day. Any and all suggestions are welcomed. This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, seriously. Are there restrictions on your using flash in the church, or what? I've been in churches like that where even ASA 800 wouldn't cut it. My suggestion would be to rent a Norman or Quantum portable unit and give yourself a couple days to get familiar with it. A powerful flash will allow you to use bouncelight or bare bulb methods to achieve better contrast ratios and also you'll be able to use a film type that is better suited to enlargements. Otherwise pray for sun and a change of venue to outside the church. These people are depending on you to provide a record of these memories. Severely underexposed results cannot be excused, and you will discover that brides are universally unforgiving. I pray for your soul... The church has a policy of not allowing any flash photogrphy inside the church. Once outside, anything goes! You'd best fully explain your predicament in advance to the newlyweds-to-be, and tell them not to expect much. Handheld shots under these conditions will not be much to look at (especially if color), but might at least provide something they wouldn't otherwise have. You might try going for the intimate/grainy look with 800 ASA B&W and a fast lens. |
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photograph church wedding without flash
Andrew Liu wrote in
: Does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph a church wedding without using a flash? The church's existing tungsten lighting is relatively dim even during the day. Any and all suggestions are welcomed. Fuji NPZ 800. Tripod. Fast lenses can help, but you cannot rely on them. Short depth-of- field can be as damaging to wedding shots as motion blur. All it takes is not having the bride and groom in the same plane. Time your shots for pauses, specifically to avoid any movement from your subjects. After the ceremony, stage the key shots, when you can get in nice and close and use a flash if necessary. This also allows you to get angles you couldn't possibly achieve during the ceremony (such as behind the altar, looking into the couple's faces). Good to let the family know you might be doing this too, so they can stick around and keep the first few pews realistically occupied for a convincing background. And as KBob said, explain the difficulties in advance, so everyone understands the constraints. They'll be more cooperative (hopefully, anyway). Good luck! - Al. -- To reply, insert dash in address to match domain below Online photo gallery at www.wading-in.net |
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photograph church wedding without flash
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph a church wedding without using a flash? The church's existing tungsten lighting is relatively dim even during the day. Any and all suggestions are welcomed. what photographers for years have been doing... A. tripod. As a medium format shooter I've shooting almost everything with one anyway. B. non zoom lens that gives at least f/2.8, some are as much as two stops faster, f/2 and even 1.4 can be found (though I wouldn't go buy something just for the one shoot. C. fast film, though for all these years I can't understand why why why why, they don't make a tungsten balanced fast color neg film, it doesn't make sense to me, the number of times I needed a really fast film in daylight could be counted on one hand, but near weekly a fast roll balanced for room lights would have very nice indeed. but that's life. frankly I'd use an 800, the faster films not only show it but don't look any better than 800 slightly under. and you can get an 800 in the same 'family' as the rest of the wedding, of course if you are digital than do a white balance and your good to go, just remember to reset later. D. before it became a cliche' to be a photojournalist and shoot a half dozen rolls of the ceremony, most photogs only shot a dozen or so, expecting only five or six in the finished album, the entrance, the rings, the 'big view' and the kiss. maybe the flower/ring kids, maybe the bridesmaids but if one looked less than wonderful then none were used and the portraits looked so much better anyway... but an old trick is to put the camera on the ground, using your wallet or checkbook to give the front a slight angle up, now this worked with those old waist level finders where you had to look down, or cameras you can take the prism off. I presume that restriction was just for the ceremony, not for any and all photos even after the wedding when most couples have the formals done? for the formals, a tripod is really an excellent idea, you can select a very slow shutter speed and a low flash out put, I would routinely select f/4 (one stop down from wide open on my f/2.8 lens) and a shutter speed slow enough that would let the background build up to one stop under. This allowed the background to show full glorious detail, and I would go as slow as a full second, especially if the group were mostly adults and cooperative, the flash will freeze them enough that any movement shouldn't be apparent (unless they turn suddenly and then you can end up with an interesting Picasso effect) this reply is echoed to the z-prophoto mailing list at yahoogroups.com |
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photograph church wedding without flash
Andrew Liu wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph a church wedding without using a flash? The church's existing tungsten lighting is relatively dim even during the day. Any and all suggestions are welcomed. One thing needs clarifying, is the restriction permanent, or only during the actual ceremony. A lot of ministers do not like the flash going off in their face while they are trying to concentrate on what is happening. Okay, so that leaves you a few options: 1) Stage a few shots, after the wedding, with the couple, this may let you get other points of view that you would not normally be able to get. 2) Be honest tell the couple that there will not be many shots of the ceremony, due to a lack of light. Suggest another location for photos, if the wedding is at a time when it's warm outside then a park or other locale can give you some good opportunities...... Otherwise there may be a room somewhere you can use. 3) Talk to the churches minister, trust me, it's unlikely to be the first wedding, the minister may be able to tell you what other photographers have done in the past. W |
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photograph church wedding without flash
"The Wogster" wrote in message ... Andrew Liu wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions on how to photograph a church wedding without using a flash? The church's existing tungsten lighting is relatively dim even during the day. Any and all suggestions are welcomed. It is a problem you have to get over. Many ministers don't allow flash but the bride and parents do expect a good photo. If conditions are real bad a good cop out is to set up your tripod, fast film, and med format at a high vantage point and do a 'General scene' shot. Can be very good if the church has a gallery. No minister objects to flash when signing the resister. You can find lots of scope there to pose a couple of good shots. Make sure you have a good photofinisher who will be able to help sort out the mix of daylight and tungsten lighting with the finished prints. |
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photograph church wedding without flash
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 02:27:51 -0000, "Bob"
wrote: "The Wogster" wrote in message .. . No minister objects to flash when signing the resister. ---Freudian slip, perhaps?? ;-) |
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