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Do you guys sell the negative or jpg file to customer?
There's nothing unprofessional about it. It's just far less greedy than
the old-style business model for wedding photography, and it's easier to manage. It's hard for me to think of a reason why I'd want to keep wedding negatives. I don't try to shaft clients into paying me exorbitant prices for prints, so I have no reason to prevent them from making their own prints, and in fact I facilitate this with a contract that grants them a generous license to use the photos in just about any way they want (although I keep the copyright and a few rights), plus digital files and/or negatives. Wedding photos typically are worthless except to the family that commissioned them, so why keep the originals? It has nothing to do with screwing people out of money. It has everything to do with quality control. If I give someone my negatives, they'll go to a non-professional lab to have prints made. While I doubt that Wally World can handle 2 1/4 square negs, any non-pro lab will make prints that are substandard in quality. Somebody will look at them and think, "Jeez - those look like crap." When asked who took them it will reflect negatively on me. Not good business. |
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Do you guys sell the negative or jpg file to customer?
Randall Ainsworth writes:
It has nothing to do with screwing people out of money. It has everything to do with quality control. Yeah, sure. Maybe your clients will believe that, but I know better. If I give someone my negatives, they'll go to a non-professional lab to have prints made. A lot of cheap, one-hour places can make very nice prints. The Fuji Frontier and its ilk changed everything, and now just about any lab can produce extremely nice prints with non-expert personnel and simple maintenance. While I doubt that Wally World can handle 2 1/4 square negs, any non-pro lab will make prints that are substandard in quality. That's not true. I've shown clients 8x12 prints from a pro lab and from a one-hour lab, and they've been unable to tell the difference. I have a very hard time telling the difference myself. And when clients do see a difference and show a preference, they usually favor the one-hour lab's prints (probably because they are on Fuji Crystal Archive, which has a lot of "pop"). Somebody will look at them and think, "Jeez - those look like crap." When asked who took them it will reflect negatively on me. Not good business. This is kind of apocryphal. Has it ever really happened to anyone? Not me. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Do you guys sell the negative or jpg file to customer?
That's not true. I've shown clients 8x12 prints from a pro lab and from
a one-hour lab, and they've been unable to tell the difference. I have a very hard time telling the difference myself. And when clients do see a difference and show a preference, they usually favor the one-hour lab's prints (probably because they are on Fuji Crystal Archive, which has a lot of "pop"). Most amateurs can't tell the difference. |
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Do you guys sell the negative or jpg file to customer?
Randall Ainsworth writes:
Most amateurs can't tell the difference. Then why worry about "quality control"? -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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After the first year I did weddings, I starting giving the couple the negs
along with their prints. Why? Because I got tired of running to the lab for one 5 x 7 of Aunt Tilly....I figured it out one afternoon and discovered that I LOST money on reprints unless they ordered around ten or more. Figuring my time(it took an hour to get to my lab) gas,wear and tear on my truck and more of the same on the return trip to pick up the reprints! Plus,after reading about a lawsuit in Texas where a couple who had been married 5 years and had NEVER ordered any reprints,sued a photographer who's studio burned to the ground when the dry cleaners next door went up in flames for not taking proper care of their wedding negs and collected ! After that, I decided I didn't want to be storing negatives for anybody..plus there's the problem of storage.....file cabinets cost $$$ for good ones and they take up space. Around this area,the deal seems to be that the studios call the couple after about 2 years and ask them if they'd like to buy the negs "ian green" wrote in message ... "Randall Ainsworth" : ... I didn't when I was in business and wouldn't if I were doing it today. You can make good money on reprints. Plus, quality control is in your hands. let me insert my question on topic in your discussion is it common practice to give away negatives/scans to photo agency without any obligations from the agency? i have just that case: photo stock agency wants all my negatives (return after 45 days) then i should wait for "their call". i called 'em suckers, they said it's "common practice".... -- ian green Xeto : photo & graphic project http://xeto.front.ru . |
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" wrote: After the first year I did weddings, I starting giving the couple the negs along with their prints. Why? Because I got tired of running to the lab for one 5 x 7 of Aunt Tilly....I figured it out one afternoon and discovered that I LOST money on reprints unless they ordered around ten or more. Figuring my time(it took an hour to get to my lab) gas,wear and tear on my truck and more of the same on the return trip to pick up the reprints! Plus,after reading about a lawsuit in Texas where a couple who had been married 5 years and had NEVER ordered any reprints,sued a photographer who's studio burned to the ground when the dry cleaners next door went up in flames for not taking proper care of their wedding negs and collected ! After that, I decided I didn't want to be storing negatives for anybody..plus there's the problem of storage.....file cabinets cost $$$ for good ones and they take up space. Around this area,the deal seems to be that the studios call the couple after about 2 years and ask them if they'd like to buy the negs Sounds like your prices were too low. Or you didn't promote reprints. Or maybe the images weren't good enough that people wanted to buy more. |
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