What comes after Dropbox?

On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 23:42:52 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

as i said, the owner gets to decide. obviously, if the owner permits
copying, he isn't going to sue anyone when they copy it and a judge
will never hear about it. duh.

But if the owner objects ....

then you may find yourself in a lawsuit. another duh.

it also doesn't mean a judge will ultimately decide. it could be
settled out of court, so you're wrong on that too.

A settlement out of court does not have the authority of a judicial
ruling.

so what?

you're still liable for infringement and will have to pay.

Depends on the terms of the settlement. I know more than one where the
plaintiff has to cough up.

so what?

each case is different.

you're still on the hook for legal fees defending yourself.

Not if the plaintiff agrees to pay them.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 23:42:53 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


So you have offended even if the image is on the screen for no more
than the milliseconds it has taken you to react and shut the thing
down. Is that your argument?

an image on the screen is not considered to be a copy.

Why not? It is a copy in fact.

april fools, right? you can't be serious.

do you not understand the difference between pixels in a frame buffer
versus a copy of a file on a hard drive/ssd?

Not from this point of view. Is there a difference?

absolutely.

What is it?
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 04/01/2017 10:44 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

If you put a photograph online and post a link to it in this (public)
forum, anyone can go to your link and download your photograph.

the issue is not downloading, but keeping a copy without permission.

How long do you need to keep it to infringe the copyright? 10mSec? No.
How about 10 sec? What about 10 minutes? If 10 minutes is OK, what
about 10 hours, or even 10 days? If an artist uploads an image for
viewing how long can it be retained before copyright is infringed?
What is the rule? How do you decide? How do I decide?

time is not a factor.

So you have offended even if the image is on the screen for no more
than the milliseconds it has taken you to react and shut the thing
down. Is that your argument?

an image on the screen is not considered to be a copy.

Why not? It is a copy in fact.

april fools, right? you can't be serious.

do you not understand the difference between pixels in a frame buffer
versus a copy of a file on a hard drive/ssd?


So I can view an image on my screen, and I'm OK. Then I go to some other
web page- doesn't matter what. But I click the back arrow, and come back
to the previous image. This time, however, the image was not downloaded,
it was pulled from my cache- a copy of the image that was saved on my
hard drive. Since that image was cache'd without my permission, if I am
sued for copyright infringement, can I then sue either Mozilla or Linus
Torvalds?


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Ken Hart

On 4/3/2017 11:27 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Saturday, 1 April 2017 09:31:59 UTC+1, David B. wrote:
On 3/31/2017 10:36 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:


I'll come back to you on this. Hope the delay is OK.

As an aside, do YOU use Dropbox?

Not very much I should use it more rather than sending files.

I'm puzzling over something and wonder
if you could, indeed WOULD, send me an item, perhaps a photograph, from
your Dropbox account so that I can check out a detail.

Here's my H&S poster I made for the my lab.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl46gz38ai...%20A4.pdf?dl=0

Wow! *HOT*! ;-)

and the first photo I took with my then new EOS M3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9m28gsdm6t...0copy.JPG?dl=0

Your help is VERY much appreciated.

Thanks, Dave. :-)


What I mean is, post a link to the item here!

I'd appreciate that. TIA

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David

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:27:27 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Saturday, 1 April 2017 09:31:59 UTC+1, David B. wrote:
On 3/31/2017 10:36 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:


I'll come back to you on this. Hope the delay is OK.

As an aside, do YOU use Dropbox?

Not very much I should use it more rather than sending files.

I'm puzzling over something and wonder
if you could, indeed WOULD, send me an item, perhaps a photograph, from
your Dropbox account so that I can check out a detail.

Here's my H&S poster I made for the my lab.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl46gz38ai...%20A4.pdf?dl=0


and the first photo I took with my then new EOS M3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9m28gsdm6t...0copy.JPG?dl=0


They are clear enough. I am puzzled.



What I mean is, post a link to the item here!

I'd appreciate that. TIA

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David
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 03/04/2017 23:01, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:27:27 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Saturday, 1 April 2017 09:31:59 UTC+1, David B. wrote:
On 3/31/2017 10:36 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:


I'll come back to you on this. Hope the delay is OK.

As an aside, do YOU use Dropbox?

Not very much I should use it more rather than sending files.

I'm puzzling over something and wonder
if you could, indeed WOULD, send me an item, perhaps a photograph, from
your Dropbox account so that I can check out a detail.

Here's my H&S poster I made for the my lab.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl46gz38ai...%20A4.pdf?dl=0


and the first photo I took with my then new EOS M3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9m28gsdm6t...0copy.JPG?dl=0


They are clear enough. I am puzzled.

The images are EXCEPTIONALLY clear! :-)

That wasn't what I was testing for, Eric.

Can YOU provide me with a Dropbox link too, please?

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"Do something wonderful, people may imitate it." (Albert Schweitzer)

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:19:58 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

On 03/04/2017 23:01, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:27:27 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Saturday, 1 April 2017 09:31:59 UTC+1, David B. wrote:
On 3/31/2017 10:36 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:


I'll come back to you on this. Hope the delay is OK.

As an aside, do YOU use Dropbox?

Not very much I should use it more rather than sending files.

I'm puzzling over something and wonder
if you could, indeed WOULD, send me an item, perhaps a photograph, from
your Dropbox account so that I can check out a detail.

Here's my H&S poster I made for the my lab.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl46gz38ai...%20A4.pdf?dl=0


and the first photo I took with my then new EOS M3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9m28gsdm6t...0copy.JPG?dl=0


They are clear enough. I am puzzled.

The images are EXCEPTIONALLY clear! :-)

That wasn't what I was testing for, Eric.

Can YOU provide me with a Dropbox link too, please?

Try https://www.dropbox.com/s/rot11ikzko...-1643.jpg?dl=0

I've downloaded it before final posting and I'm not satisfied with
what I see. All the fine detail seems gritty.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 13/04/2017 23:34, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:19:58 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

On 03/04/2017 23:01, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:27:27 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Saturday, 1 April 2017 09:31:59 UTC+1, David B. wrote:
On 3/31/2017 10:36 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:


I'll come back to you on this. Hope the delay is OK.

As an aside, do YOU use Dropbox?

Not very much I should use it more rather than sending files.

I'm puzzling over something and wonder
if you could, indeed WOULD, send me an item, perhaps a photograph, from
your Dropbox account so that I can check out a detail.

Here's my H&S poster I made for the my lab.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl46gz38ai...%20A4.pdf?dl=0


and the first photo I took with my then new EOS M3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9m28gsdm6t...0copy.JPG?dl=0


They are clear enough. I am puzzled.

The images are EXCEPTIONALLY clear! :-)

That wasn't what I was testing for, Eric.

Can YOU provide me with a Dropbox link too, please?

Try https://www.dropbox.com/s/rot11ikzko...-1643.jpg?dl=0

I've downloaded it before final posting and I'm not satisfied with
what I see. All the fine detail seems gritty.

Thank you so much, Eric.

You proved the point I was trying to substantiate! :-)

--
"Do something wonderful, people may imitate it." (Albert Schweitzer)

On 18/04/2017 10:10, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 13 April 2017 23:34:32 UTC+1, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:19:58 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

On 03/04/2017 23:01, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:27:27 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Saturday, 1 April 2017 09:31:59 UTC+1, David B. wrote:
On 3/31/2017 10:36 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:


I'll come back to you on this. Hope the delay is OK.

As an aside, do YOU use Dropbox?

Not very much I should use it more rather than sending files.

I'm puzzling over something and wonder
if you could, indeed WOULD, send me an item, perhaps a photograph, from
your Dropbox account so that I can check out a detail.

Here's my H&S poster I made for the my lab.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl46gz38ai...%20A4.pdf?dl=0


and the first photo I took with my then new EOS M3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9m28gsdm6t...0copy.JPG?dl=0


They are clear enough. I am puzzled.

The images are EXCEPTIONALLY clear! :-)

That wasn't what I was testing for, Eric.

Can YOU provide me with a Dropbox link too, please?

Try https://www.dropbox.com/s/rot11ikzko...-1643.jpg?dl=0

I've downloaded it before final posting and I'm not satisfied with
what I see. All the fine detail seems gritty.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

It;s a relativley low res image at about 1800x1200 perhaps that's why.

doesn't help that it's leaves and riples on water which does make it look gritty.

It's still a lovely place to be! :-D

Did you catch my 'Ping', Dave?

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The only people who make a difference are the people who believe they can.

On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 02:10:39 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 13 April 2017 23:34:32 UTC+1, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:19:58 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

On 03/04/2017 23:01, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 03:27:27 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Saturday, 1 April 2017 09:31:59 UTC+1, David B. wrote:
On 3/31/2017 10:36 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:


I'll come back to you on this. Hope the delay is OK.

As an aside, do YOU use Dropbox?

Not very much I should use it more rather than sending files.

I'm puzzling over something and wonder
if you could, indeed WOULD, send me an item, perhaps a photograph, from
your Dropbox account so that I can check out a detail.

Here's my H&S poster I made for the my lab.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl46gz38ai...%20A4.pdf?dl=0


and the first photo I took with my then new EOS M3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9m28gsdm6t...0copy.JPG?dl=0


They are clear enough. I am puzzled.

The images are EXCEPTIONALLY clear! :-)

That wasn't what I was testing for, Eric.

Can YOU provide me with a Dropbox link too, please?

Try https://www.dropbox.com/s/rot11ikzko...-1643.jpg?dl=0

I've downloaded it before final posting and I'm not satisfied with
what I see. All the fine detail seems gritty.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

It;s a relativley low res image at about 1800x1200 perhaps that's why.

doesn't help that it's leaves and riples on water which does make it look gritty.

You are right! It's the same here too. I don't know how that happened
but it started off as 3414 x 2268. I seem to have messed up
somewhere. I'll try again shortly.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens