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A simple way to transfer photos from your phone to Windows without installing anything on either
PeterN wrote:
In my case, it mounted just fine - although Knoppix gave some weird errors but I'm not too worried because after buying SATA and power cables, I now have two terabyte HDDs in my laptop. http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/...t_device_2.jpg Your information is good. Years ago I learned the hard way to keep all my data on a portable HDD, and back up regularly. Do you own a car? Do you use battery-based wall-outlet-charged jumper devices? What happens to those battery-based jumper devices in cold weather or after 10 years? They suffer from the /same/ faults (even more of them) than the car battery does, right? Same thing here with external HDDs. I have a dozen ten year old Zip drives and HDDs which suffer mainly from worse faults than do my internal HDDs. For one, the ZIP drive data is lost forever, because I don't even know how to get it back. For another, some of the older HDDs suffer from proprietary power supplies, where if I lose the cable or if the power supply goes bad, I'm hosed. For another, a HDD can EASILY get corrupted. If I haven't mentioned that yet, just unplug it after backing up hundreds of megabytes, and then cry (as I did) when you can't fnid the data except by Recuva, where all the files are flat and the names are all missing their first character (don't ask me why - just ask me why I cried). So I gave uip on external USB-connected HDDs as a backup because they're even /less/ reliable than the internal HDDs are. So what's left? DVD is left. I guess, when SSD gets to the price of DVD, it will win since you only write once to SSD, but SSD will fail if it uses a proprietary power supply. To change the topic slightly: It seems to me that the quality of service at the Windows store is a few notches below what it was abut a year ago. I thought the QOS was about the same as at the Apple store when I brought iPads to them which didn't get anywhere near the range of WiFi that my Android phones got - and they were worthless. All the Apple store could do was run bull**** diagnostics which simply teste that iOS was working - which wasn't the problem (because lack of radio reception is a hardware problem). They had absolutely zero real diagnostics that you can't run yourself - where it seems that the Microsoft Retail Store was similar. |
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A simple way to transfer photos from your phone to Windows without installing anything on either
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 10:41:16 -0500, PeterN
wrote: Your information is good. Years ago I learned the hard way to keep all my data on a portable HDD, and back up regularly. Why do you want it on a portable HD? I don't agree with that. All it does is slow down access to it. ... and back up regularly. But I strongly agree with that. |
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A simple way to transfer photos from your phone to Windowswithout installing anything on either
On 2/28/2018 12:45 PM, ultred ragnusen wrote:
PeterN wrote: In my case, it mounted just fine - although Knoppix gave some weird errors but I'm not too worried because after buying SATA and power cables, I now have two terabyte HDDs in my laptop. http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/02/...t_device_2.jpg Your information is good. Years ago I learned the hard way to keep all my data on a portable HDD, and back up regularly. Do you own a car? Do you use battery-based wall-outlet-charged jumper devices? What happens to those battery-based jumper devices in cold weather or after 10 years? They suffer from the /same/ faults (even more of them) than the car battery does, right? Same thing here with external HDDs. I have a dozen ten year old Zip drives and HDDs which suffer mainly from worse faults than do my internal HDDs. For one, the ZIP drive data is lost forever, because I don't even know how to get it back. For another, some of the older HDDs suffer from proprietary power supplies, where if I lose the cable or if the power supply goes bad, I'm hosed. For another, a HDD can EASILY get corrupted. If I haven't mentioned that yet, just unplug it after backing up hundreds of megabytes, and then cry (as I did) when you can't fnid the data except by Recuva, where all the files are flat and the names are all missing their first character (don't ask me why - just ask me why I cried). So I gave uip on external USB-connected HDDs as a backup because they're even /less/ reliable than the internal HDDs are. So what's left? DVD is left. I guess, when SSD gets to the price of DVD, it will win since you only write once to SSD, but SSD will fail if it uses a proprietary power supply. To change the topic slightly: It seems to me that the quality of service at the Windows store is a few notches below what it was abut a year ago. I thought the QOS was about the same as at the Apple store when I brought iPads to them which didn't get anywhere near the range of WiFi that my Android phones got - and they were worthless. All the Apple store could do was run bull**** diagnostics which simply teste that iOS was working - which wasn't the problem (because lack of radio reception is a hardware problem). They had absolutely zero real diagnostics that you can't run yourself - where it seems that the Microsoft Retail Store was similar. We all have different needs. DVD would not work very well for me. The largest DVD is about 8.5G. My data is mostly photos. The RAW file, out of the camera is either 20MB, or 33MB, depending on which camera I am using. Once I start processing, I have to struggle to keep some of the files under 2G. A portable HDD runs off the laptops power. They are all industrious standard USB3. If that becomes obsolete, and I lose the connection cords, the data loss is my fault. But, with proper backups, and attention to what is going on, technology wise, my system will work just fine for me. YMMV -- PeterN |
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A simple way to transfer photos from your phone to Windows without installing anything on either
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 09:37:26 -0800, ultred ragnusen
wrote: Ken Blake wrote: May I presume to ask if "any" RAID method is useful in the home environment, where all you really care about is safety of your data? Not as far as I'm concerned. You get safety through backup.\ I see that now, thanks. You're welcome. Glad to help. The biggest problem with backup is that I have been burned by backing up to HDD, which are sort of like having a battery backup to a battery, where both suffer the same failings under the same conditions. Were you burned by having backed up to an *internal* HD? As far as I'm concerned, that's better than no backup at all, but just barely. Both the original and the backup are vulnerable to simultaneous loss by user error, nearby lightning strike, virus attack, even theft of the computer. So I like to backup to DVD, which has the main problem of data being larger than 4.7 GB in toto. DVDs are external media, so they are better than an internal hard drive, but they are very vulnerable to failure. As far as I'm concerned, much better is one or more external hard drives; alternating between two is great. |
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A simple way to transfer photos from your phone to Windowswithout installing anything on either
On 2/28/2018 1:00 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 10:41:16 -0500, PeterN wrote: Your information is good. Years ago I learned the hard way to keep all my data on a portable HDD, and back up regularly. Why do you want it on a portable HD? I don't agree with that. All it does is slow down access to it. When I'm traveling with my laptop, my choices are portable HDD, or a bunch of easily lost memory cards. Yes, it is not ideal, but it works for me. ... and back up regularly. But I strongly agree with that. -- PeterN |
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A simple way to transfer photos from your phone to Windows without installing anything on either
In article , ultred ragnusen
wrote: The biggest problem with backup is that I have been burned by backing up to HDD, which are sort of like having a battery backup to a battery, where both suffer the same failings under the same conditions. nonsense, and you're assuming only one single backup. a good backup strategy includes multiple backups, with at least one off site, so *not* the same conditions at all. So I like to backup to DVD, which has the main problem of data being larger than 4.7 GB in toto. dvds are less reliable than hds and a major pain in the ass to use. So the way I'll get around that will be to create a bunch of 4,482,269 kilobyte size-limited NTFS folders (using Veracrypt). Once any of those folders gets filled with data, I'll burn it and move on to the next folder (which keeps the data from growing too large for backup). good luck when files can't be split up and even more good luck trying to update it all any time anything changes. |
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A simple way to transfer photos from your phone to Windows without installing anything on either
In article , ultred ragnusen
wrote: I have a dozen ten year old Zip drives and HDDs which suffer mainly from worse faults than do my internal HDDs. For one, the ZIP drive data is lost forever, because I don't even know how to get it back. zip never was reliable. For another, some of the older HDDs suffer from proprietary power supplies, where if I lose the cable or if the power supply goes bad, I'm hosed open the enclosure and pull the mechanism. . For another, a HDD can EASILY get corrupted. If I haven't mentioned that yet, just unplug it after backing up hundreds of megabytes, no it doesn't. and then cry (as I did) when you can't fnid the data except by Recuva, where all the files are flat and the names are all missing their first character (don't ask me why - just ask me why I cried). if that's the case, then recuva is garbage. |
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A simple way to transfer photos from your phone to Windows without installing anything on either
In article , Ken Blake
wrote: Your information is good. Years ago I learned the hard way to keep all my data on a portable HDD, and back up regularly. Why do you want it on a portable HD? I don't agree with that. All it does is slow down access to it. nonsense. many portable hds are *faster* than desktop hds. |
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A simple way to transfer photos from your phone to Windows without installing anything on either
Ken Blake wrote:
The biggest problem with backup is that I have been burned by backing up to HDD, which are sort of like having a battery backup to a battery, where both suffer the same failings under the same conditions. Were you burned by having backed up to an *internal* HD? As far as I'm concerned, that's better than no backup at all, but just barely. I have never backed up to an /internal/ HDD, where I've been burned aplenty by backing up to strange media (e.g., ZIP drives of the past) and to removable media (e.g., USB sticks and USB drives) which tend to corrupt themselves on Windows if you simply look at them askance. Both the original and the backup are vulnerable to simultaneous loss by user error, nearby lightning strike, virus attack, even theft of the computer. Theft and lightning aren't a problem here in the hills above the Silicon Valley, but a virus could easily be a problem with an internal HDD. So I like to backup to DVD, which has the main problem of data being larger than 4.7 GB in toto. DVDs are external media, so they are better than an internal hard drive, but they are very vulnerable to failure. As far as I'm concerned, much better is one or more external hard drives; alternating between two is great. What I like about DVD is that it doesn't require power to work, where the power connectors of some of my HDDs (the older ones) is a PITA to reproduce. Sure, I could disassemble the case and see what's inside and then use the SATA/PATA/IDE to USB, but that still doesn't negate the fact that Windows eats up the file system when/if you unplug it in a way that Windows doesn't like (ask me how I know this). If SSD gets to the price of DVD, that would be the next option, I would think. One problem with bulk DVDs is that Costco doesn't sell the stack of 100 anymore... Sigh. |
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A simple way to transfer photos from your phone to Windows without installing anything on either
PeterN wrote:
They are all industrious standard USB3. I've had really back luck with corruption if I pull the cord out while Windows thinks it should be connected, where the /entire/ HDD is corrupted. The data was still there - but it had to be recovered - the last time using Recuva - but it has happened multiple times. So I _hate_ those removable media HDDs. But, as you said, we each have our own needs... |
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