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Old February 12th 19, 03:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Neil[_9_]
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Default Mirrorless buyers being underserved by review sites because of

On 2/11/2019 9:31 PM, RichA wrote:
Lack of thorough reviews and comparisons of EVFs. Half the sites report on the resolution of the EVF and nothing in-depth about it. There are three KEY points about the EVF which will determine your shooting experience:
-Resolution
-The OPTICS of the viewfinder, their quality is paramount.
-How the EVF handles movement.

I bought a Panasonic G1 (first mirrorless) when it came out. The EVF today's standards is low rez, 430,000 pixels. But the viewfinder optics are good and it's easy to focus with it. The first mirrorless Olympus I had (E-M5) had twice the pixel-count in the EVF, but the viewfinder optics were crappy and it was difficult to manually focus, the view sucked. The Olympus E-M5II is a vast improvement, but i came from improved viewfinder optics and not increased resolution. Panasonic's expensive GX8 has a phenomenal EVF, the best I've used and even though the resolution is LOWER than the top Panasonics, apparently, the clarity and lack of distortion in the view is superior. That includes bodies costing FAR more, like Sony's A7's and Panasonic's G9. This is why there has to be good reviews of these things, not many people these days has a way to physically compare multiple cameras.

I think people are obsessed with resolution as an indication of
usefulness in an EVF. I was doing a lot of pro videography in the '70s,
and all of the cameras had EVFs at around 480x720 as well as manual
lenses (even when the lenses had motorized focus controls). However,
their UIs that indicated exposure and focus were fast and functional.

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Neil
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Old February 12th 19, 04:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Mirrorless buyers being underserved by review sites because of one key thing:

In article , Neil
wrote:

I bought a Panasonic G1 (first mirrorless) when it came out. The EVF
today's standards is low rez, 430,000 pixels. But the viewfinder optics
are good and it's easy to focus with it. The first mirrorless Olympus I
had (E-M5) had twice the pixel-count in the EVF, but the viewfinder optics
were crappy and it was difficult to manually focus, the view sucked. The
Olympus E-M5II is a vast improvement, but i came from improved viewfinder
optics and not increased resolution. Panasonic's expensive GX8 has a
phenomenal EVF, the best I've used and even though the resolution is LOWER
than the top Panasonics, apparently, the clarity and lack of distortion in
the view is superior. That includes bodies costing FAR more, like Sony's
A7's and Panasonic's G9. This is why there has to be good reviews of these
things, not many people these days has a way to physically compare multiple
cameras.


I think people are obsessed with resolution as an indication of
usefulness in an EVF.


as they should be, just as they are for normal displays, along with
high refresh rate.

I was doing a lot of pro videography in the '70s,
and all of the cameras had EVFs at around 480x720 as well as manual
lenses (even when the lenses had motorized focus controls). However,
their UIs that indicated exposure and focus were fast and functional.


those displays were crap.
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Old February 12th 19, 06:20 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Mirrorless buyers being underserved by review sites

nospam wrote:
In article , Neil
wrote:

I bought a Panasonic G1 (first mirrorless) when it came out. The EVF
today's standards is low rez, 430,000 pixels. But the viewfinder optics
are good and it's easy to focus with it. The first mirrorless Olympus I
had (E-M5) had twice the pixel-count in the EVF, but the viewfinder optics
were crappy and it was difficult to manually focus, the view sucked. The
Olympus E-M5II is a vast improvement, but i came from improved viewfinder
optics and not increased resolution. Panasonic's expensive GX8 has a
phenomenal EVF, the best I've used and even though the resolution is LOWER
than the top Panasonics, apparently, the clarity and lack of distortion in
the view is superior. That includes bodies costing FAR more, like Sony's
A7's and Panasonic's G9. This is why there has to be good reviews of these
things, not many people these days has a way to physically compare multiple
cameras.


I think people are obsessed with resolution as an indication of
usefulness in an EVF.


as they should be, just as they are for normal displays, along with
high refresh rate.

I was doing a lot of pro videography in the '70s,
and all of the cameras had EVFs at around 480x720 as well as manual
lenses (even when the lenses had motorized focus controls). However,
their UIs that indicated exposure and focus were fast and functional.


those displays were crap.


I believe that you folks might be amazed if you try the EVF in the Fujifilm
X-T3, or any of the MF GFX 50s.

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Regards,
Savageduck
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Old February 12th 19, 06:46 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Mirrorless buyers being underserved by review sites because of one key thing:

In article , Savageduck
wrote:

I think people are obsessed with resolution as an indication of
usefulness in an EVF.


as they should be, just as they are for normal displays, along with
high refresh rate.

I was doing a lot of pro videography in the '70s,
and all of the cameras had EVFs at around 480x720 as well as manual
lenses (even when the lenses had motorized focus controls). However,
their UIs that indicated exposure and focus were fast and functional.


those displays were crap.


I believe that you folks might be amazed if you try the EVF in the Fujifilm
X-T3, or any of the MF GFX 50s.


what's the resolution (actually ppi) and refresh rate on those?
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Old February 12th 19, 07:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default Mirrorless buyers being underserved by review sites

nospam wrote:
In article , Savageduck
wrote:

I think people are obsessed with resolution as an indication of
usefulness in an EVF.

as they should be, just as they are for normal displays, along with
high refresh rate.

I was doing a lot of pro videography in the '70s,
and all of the cameras had EVFs at around 480x720 as well as manual
lenses (even when the lenses had motorized focus controls). However,
their UIs that indicated exposure and focus were fast and functional.

those displays were crap.


I believe that you folks might be amazed if you try the EVF in the Fujifilm
X-T3, or any of the MF GFX 50s.


what's the resolution (actually ppi) and refresh rate on those?


X-T3 EVF:
0.5 inch. 3.69 million dots OLED Color Viewfinder
Coverage of viewing area vs. capturing area: 100%
Lag time 0.005 sec
Refresh rate 100fps
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Regards,
Savageduck
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Old February 12th 19, 07:21 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Mirrorless buyers being underserved by review sites because of one key thing:

In article , Savageduck
wrote:

I think people are obsessed with resolution as an indication of
usefulness in an EVF.

as they should be, just as they are for normal displays, along with
high refresh rate.

I was doing a lot of pro videography in the '70s,
and all of the cameras had EVFs at around 480x720 as well as manual
lenses (even when the lenses had motorized focus controls). However,
their UIs that indicated exposure and focus were fast and functional.

those displays were crap.

I believe that you folks might be amazed if you try the EVF in the Fujifilm
X-T3, or any of the MF GFX 50s.


what's the resolution (actually ppi) and refresh rate on those?


X-T3 EVF:
0.5 inch. 3.69 million dots OLED Color Viewfinder
Coverage of viewing area vs. capturing area: 100%
Lag time 0.005 sec
Refresh rate 100fps


in other words, about 10x as many pixels as that 1970s era 720 x 480
display (345600 pixels).
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Old February 12th 19, 08:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default Mirrorless buyers being underserved by review sites

nospam wrote:
In article , Savageduck
wrote:

I think people are obsessed with resolution as an indication of
usefulness in an EVF.

as they should be, just as they are for normal displays, along with
high refresh rate.

I was doing a lot of pro videography in the '70s,
and all of the cameras had EVFs at around 480x720 as well as manual
lenses (even when the lenses had motorized focus controls). However,
their UIs that indicated exposure and focus were fast and functional.

those displays were crap.

I believe that you folks might be amazed if you try the EVF in the Fujifilm
X-T3, or any of the MF GFX 50s.

what's the resolution (actually ppi) and refresh rate on those?


X-T3 EVF:
0.5 inch. 3.69 million dots OLED Color Viewfinder
Coverage of viewing area vs. capturing area: 100%
Lag time 0.005 sec
Refresh rate 100fps


in other words, about 10x as many pixels as that 1970s era 720 x 480
display (345600 pixels).


Yup!

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Savageduck
 




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