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Old July 31st 16, 11:36 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 30/07/2016 10:56, RichA wrote:
Well, it's not stills photography, but the lenses he used in some parts of the movie ended-up I believe used by some still photogs.

https://www.facebook.com/BritishFilm...type=2&theater

From what I've read:
The film stock used was ISO100, pushed one stop.
They used (70mm projection) lens adapters in front of the 50mm to get a
wide field of view.
The design of the lens itself was effectively a 70mm f1.0, with 0.7x
"teleconverter" built in - to take it to 50mm. (Much like "Metabones
Speed Booster" adapters to use 35mm format lenses on APS-C or 4/3 formats).
The candles were Hollywood special "triple-wick" - brighter than normal
candles.

What would Kubrick use today? (Would he have been satisfied to shoot
Barry Lyndon with digital, eliminating the need for those lenses, or
would he have just pushed further to shoot a movie in natural moonlight
or starlight?)

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Old July 31st 16, 11:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Stanley Kubrick's obsession with cameras and videography

On 7/31/2016 11:36 PM, Me wrote:
On 30/07/2016 10:56, RichA wrote:
Well, it's not stills photography, but the lenses he used in some
parts of the movie ended-up I believe used by some still photogs.

https://www.facebook.com/BritishFilm...type=2&theater


From what I've read:
The film stock used was ISO100, pushed one stop.
They used (70mm projection) lens adapters in front of the 50mm to get a
wide field of view.
The design of the lens itself was effectively a 70mm f1.0, with 0.7x
"teleconverter" built in - to take it to 50mm. (Much like "Metabones
Speed Booster" adapters to use 35mm format lenses on APS-C or 4/3 formats).
The candles were Hollywood special "triple-wick" - brighter than normal
candles.

What would Kubrick use today? (Would he have been satisfied to shoot
Barry Lyndon with digital, eliminating the need for those lenses, or
would he have just pushed further to shoot a movie in natural moonlight
or starlight?)

Digital, surely? Hadn't film been pretty much taken to the physical
limits by the time of Barry Lyndon? ISTR that pre-digital, astronomical
film was sometimes chilled with dry ice (liquid nitrogen?) to improve
sensitivity, reduce noise, combat reciprocity failure?
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Old August 1st 16, 12:04 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2016-07-31 18:36, Me wrote:

What would Kubrick use today? (Would he have been satisfied to shoot
Barry Lyndon with digital, eliminating the need for those lenses, or
would he have just pushed further to shoot a movie in natural moonlight
or starlight?)


Given the "look and feel" of BL I believe he would have been content to
stick to film, esp. given his long use of it.

Various films today are being filmed on film because that's what the
director/cinematographer prefer. It's not like the general public can
tell and it has no effect on quality or production costs at a
significant level. (The developed film is developed and digitized very
early - before the editing and effects).


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Old August 1st 16, 12:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2016-07-31 19:06, J. Clarke wrote:

Kubrick, being Kubrick, would have used whatever was necessary to give
him the image he wanted.

However Barry Lyndon was 1974 when Kodak's cine film was 100 speed.
High speed Negative at 250 was introduced in 1982 and withdrawn very
quickly in favor of a 400 speed film in 1983 (Kodak got an Emmy for that
film). Later this was increased to 500 and there it stayed.



Cine film is exposed anywhere from a couple (or more) stops down to a
couple (or more) stops up according to the available (or manufactured)
light, desired aperture and exposure times then appropriately
pushed/pulled in processing.

This, effectively, makes the "500" speed film anywhere from 100 to 2000
in practical use.

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Old August 1st 16, 03:32 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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newshound:
ISTR that pre-digital, astronomical
film was sometimes chilled with dry ice (liquid nitrogen?) to improve
sensitivity, reduce noise, combat reciprocity failure?


Don't recall about film, but the sensor in my research-grade
astronomical CCD camera from SBIG is cooled by thermo-electric cooling
(TEC) and by water circulation because a warm chip is a noisy chip.

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