Ilford Galerie FB Digital

December 13, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,

According to the info at
http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/a...tion=6&id=1846

Galerie FB Digital is a black and white fiber
based paper as we are used to seeing, but
made for Lambda- and LightJet-type exposures,
from digital files.

.... I just can't resist ... what will it look
like exposed under an enlarger and processed
by hand in the usual developers? How will it
take to selenium toner? How about gold toner?
Can I get a Warmtone result?

I do like the weight they specify: 315gsm
(grams per square meter) fiber base baryta
paper.

regards,
--le
________________________________
Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto.
website: www.heylloyd.com
telephone: 416-686-0326
email:
________________________________
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December 13, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,

Galerie FB Digital is a black and white fiber
based paper made for Lambda- and LightJet
exposures from digital files.

... I just can't resist ... what will it look
like exposed under an enlarger and processed
by hand in the usual developers?

I imagine the FB is close to the RC version of the paper:

http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/...1450482628.pdf

states it is panchromatic, grade 3, and comes in rolls.

The emulsion seems to be dye-coupled at blue, green
and red wavelengths. Ilford uses a triple-emulsion for
their multi-grade papers so to use the same silver
emulsion with three dye-couplers would be compatable with
their existing process.

I suppose it could be used as a replacement for Panalure.

My guess is it looks like Ilford graded FB.


--
Nicholas O. Lindan
Darkroom Automation
http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm

On 13 Dec 2006 07:39:36 -0800,
wrote:

and comes in rolls



December 13, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,

Hm. I'll have to wait for them to release it
in sheets.

Is there a market for miniature Lambda or
LightJet machines?? Prosumer version? Nice
little desktop-size exposer to replace my
enlarger? Then I could just scan my negatives
and touch them up in photoshop! Slip them in
the machine and watch them come out the other
end. And still have the thrill of working
with chemicals that can rot my skin off and
eat my lungs, for the macho factor. Hey,
aren't lasers, um, *Dangerous* ?? Couldn't a
terrorist buy a Lambda, remove the lasers,
point them at something, maybe add a surplus
dental X-ray unit for backup ...

Sorry, I have a couple of months worth of
16x20s to spot. Three cheers for the good,
departed folk at Spotone. Well, the +1.25
diopter reading specs help a lot, goodbye...

regards,
--le
________________________________
Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto.
website: www.heylloyd.com
telephone: 416-686-0326
email:
________________________________
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In article ,
Lloyd Erlick Lloyd at @the-wire. dot com wrote:

Galerie FB Digital is a black and white fiber
based paper as we are used to seeing, but
made for Lambda- and LightJet-type exposures,
from digital files.

... I just can't resist ... what will it look
like exposed under an enlarger and processed
by hand in the usual developers? How will it
take to selenium toner? How about gold toner?
Can I get a Warmtone result?

Here is something scary that you may not know: the drivers for the
high-end Epson printers -- with the default Epson inkset that has
three blacks and four color inks -- have an image-tone adjustment
setting that can, in fact, produce pretty much dead-on reproductions
of the image tone of popular black and white silver-based materials.

--
Thor Lancelot Simon
"The liberties...lose much of their value whenever those who have greater
private means are permitted to use their advantages to control the course
of public debate." -John Rawls

"Lloyd Erlick" Lloyd at @the-wire. dot com wrote in message
...
December 13, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,

According to the info at
http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/a...tion=6&id=1846

/snip/

well I'll be dipped! And here I thought that Ilford had gone bottom up!
Good to see that they are still around...and that my favorite Ilford papers
and that old standby - Bromophen - are still available!

hmmm...wonder how Ilford is going to counter the "if you get this printer,
you *have* to use *this* ink and *this* paper for good results" bit. This
captive consumer marketing ploy is going to be difficult to address on the
part of third party manufacturers of inks and papers.

In article ,
Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:

hmmm...wonder how Ilford is going to counter the "if you get this printer,
you *have* to use *this* ink and *this* paper for good results" bit.

Uh. They're not. The paper in question is a _light sensitive_ paper for
printing in LightJet and Lambda printers, which paint the image onto the
paper using lasers.

--
Thor Lancelot Simon
"The liberties...lose much of their value whenever those who have greater
private means are permitted to use their advantages to control the course
of public debate." -John Rawls

A little off topic to the original post but Ilford has the
profiles for their papers published on their website. The
stuff in the yellow packages (from Rochester) does not have
any profiles available, so I stopped using yellow box and
use Ilford.
darkroommike

Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:
"Lloyd Erlick" Lloyd at @the-wire. dot com wrote in message
...
December 13, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,

According to the info at
http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/a...tion=6&id=1846

/snip/

well I'll be dipped! And here I thought that Ilford had gone bottom up!
Good to see that they are still around...and that my favorite Ilford papers
and that old standby - Bromophen - are still available!

hmmm...wonder how Ilford is going to counter the "if you get this printer,
you *have* to use *this* ink and *this* paper for good results" bit. This
captive consumer marketing ploy is going to be difficult to address on the
part of third party manufacturers of inks and papers.

"Lloyd Erlick" Lloyd at @the-wire. dot com wrote in
message ...
December 13, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,

According to the info at
http://www.imaginginfo.com/article/a...tion=6&id=1846

Galerie FB Digital is a black and white fiber
based paper as we are used to seeing, but
made for Lambda- and LightJet-type exposures,
from digital files.

... I just can't resist ... what will it look
like exposed under an enlarger and processed
by hand in the usual developers? How will it
take to selenium toner? How about gold toner?
Can I get a Warmtone result?

I do like the weight they specify: 315gsm
(grams per square meter) fiber base baryta
paper.

regards,
--le
________________________________
Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto.
website: www.heylloyd.com
telephone: 416-686-0326
email:
________________________________

Let us know if you can experiment with this stuff or its
RC equivalent for conventional printing. I suspect it may be
too contrasty for B&W negatives but maybe will work for
printing from color negatives. The data sheet for the RC
paper indicates its contrast is about equal to Grade-4.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA




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December 13, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,

Galerie FB Digital is a black and white fiber
based paper made for Lambda- and LightJet
exposures from digital files.

... I just can't resist ... what will it look
like exposed under an enlarger and processed
by hand in the usual developers?

I imagine the FB is close to the RC version of the paper:

http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/...1450482628.pdf

states it is panchromatic, grade 3, and comes in rolls.

The emulsion seems to be dye-coupled at blue, green
and red wavelengths. Ilford uses a triple-emulsion for
their multi-grade papers so to use the same silver
emulsion with three dye-couplers would be compatable with
their existing process.

I suppose it could be used as a replacement for Panalure.

My guess is it looks like Ilford graded FB.


--
Nicholas O. Lindan
Darkroom Automation
http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm


What do you mean by dye coupled? This is not a
chromogenic paper. The data sheet for the RC version states
that the constast is equivalent to a standard Grade-4. Of
course, this is no limit for digital printing since the
contrast is controlled digitally.
Unfortunately for experimentation both papers are
available only in long rolls. It might well be a replacement
for Panalure for getting decent prints directly from color
negatives but the color sensitivity is optimised for laser
printers and not color negatives so there will likely be
some tone distortion.


--
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA





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Richard Knoppow wrote:
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The emulsion seems to be dye-coupled at blue, green
and red wavelengths.
What do you mean by dye coupled? This is not a
chromogenic paper.

Wrong wording ... "color sensitized"