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Old May 9th 14, 08:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default WTF: Amazon Patents shooting against a white seamless.

It's been done almost as long as product shots have existed.

http://www.diyphotography.net/can-cl...eamless-white/

US patent document: http://goo.gl/GsBCuY

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Old May 10th 14, 09:11 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default WTF: Amazon Patents shooting against a white seamless.

On 09/05/2014 20:13, Usenet Account wrote:
It's been done almost as long as product shots have existed.

http://www.diyphotography.net/can-cl...eamless-white/


US patent document: http://goo.gl/GsBCuY


Nothing USPTO does these days ever surprises me.

They will grant a patent for anything no matter how trivial or obvious
the prior art provided that the applicants dollars are green and in
sufficient quantity. It is too much of a faff to strike it down, but not
using an 85mm lens or pure white background would seem to be a wise
precaution. Are you sure it isn't an April Fools joke?

I didn't think even USPTO were *QUITE* that dumb!

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Old May 10th 14, 10:08 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default WTF: Amazon Patents shooting against a white seamless.

On Sat, 10 May 2014 09:11:39 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote:

On 09/05/2014 20:13, Usenet Account wrote:
It's been done almost as long as product shots have existed.

http://www.diyphotography.net/can-cl...eamless-white/


US patent document: http://goo.gl/GsBCuY


Nothing USPTO does these days ever surprises me.

They will grant a patent for anything no matter how trivial or obvious
the prior art provided that the applicants dollars are green and in
sufficient quantity. It is too much of a faff to strike it down, but not
using an 85mm lens or pure white background would seem to be a wise
precaution. Are you sure it isn't an April Fools joke?

I didn't think even USPTO were *QUITE* that dumb!



What exactly is the color white? Interior decorators (and paint
manufacturers) will tell you there are zillions of them.

What tolerance is there on the claim of an 85mm lens? Few lenses have
exactly the focal lenth claimed. Is it the nominal focal length
eengraved on the lens barrel which matters or is the exact focal
length (possibly at the time the image was taken) which matters?
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Eric Stevens
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Old May 10th 14, 10:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
J. Clarke[_2_]
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Default WTF: Amazon Patents shooting against a white seamless.

In article ,
says...

On 09/05/2014 20:13, Usenet Account wrote:
It's been done almost as long as product shots have existed.

http://www.diyphotography.net/can-cl...eamless-white/


US patent document: http://goo.gl/GsBCuY


Nothing USPTO does these days ever surprises me.

They will grant a patent for anything no matter how trivial or obvious
the prior art provided that the applicants dollars are green and in
sufficient quantity. It is too much of a faff to strike it down, but not
using an 85mm lens or pure white background would seem to be a wise
precaution. Are you sure it isn't an April Fools joke?

I didn't think even USPTO were *QUITE* that dumb!


We really need to fix the patent system. One approach would be to make
USPTO personnel personally liable for court costs and legal fees any
time a patent is struck down by the courts. One examiner finding
himself in debt for the rest of his life to pay off Sony's legal fees
for defending the use of that setup as "prior art" would make the rest
of them think twice before signing off on most of this crap.



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Old May 10th 14, 01:45 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default WTF: Amazon Patents shooting against a white seamless.

On 2014-05-09 19:13:27 +0000, Usenet Account said:

It's been done almost as long as product shots have existed.

http://www.diyphotography.net/can-cl...eamless-white/


US

patent document: http://goo.gl/GsBCuY


Filed November 11, 2011

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Old May 10th 14, 06:45 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default WTF: Amazon Patents shooting against a white seamless.

In article , Eric Stevens
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What tolerance is there on the claim of an 85mm lens? Few lenses have
exactly the focal lenth claimed. Is it the nominal focal length
eengraved on the lens barrel which matters or is the exact focal
length (possibly at the time the image was taken) which matters?


5%
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Old May 10th 14, 09:38 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default WTF: Amazon Patents shooting against a white seamless.

On Sat, 10 May 2014 13:45:26 -0400, nospam
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

What tolerance is there on the claim of an 85mm lens? Few lenses have
exactly the focal lenth claimed. Is it the nominal focal length
eengraved on the lens barrel which matters or is the exact focal
length (possibly at the time the image was taken) which matters?


5%


Is the 5% tolerance in the patent claim?
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Old May 10th 14, 11:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default WTF: Amazon Patents shooting against a white seamless.

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

What tolerance is there on the claim of an 85mm lens? Few lenses have
exactly the focal lenth claimed. Is it the nominal focal length
eengraved on the lens barrel which matters or is the exact focal
length (possibly at the time the image was taken) which matters?


5%


Is the 5% tolerance in the patent claim?


i'm not talking about the patent.

lens tolerances are 5%, which means that an 85mm lens can be anywhere
from 80.75-89.25mm.
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Old May 11th 14, 02:30 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default WTF: Amazon Patents shooting against a white seamless.

On Sat, 10 May 2014 18:27:48 -0400, nospam
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

What tolerance is there on the claim of an 85mm lens? Few lenses have
exactly the focal lenth claimed. Is it the nominal focal length
eengraved on the lens barrel which matters or is the exact focal
length (possibly at the time the image was taken) which matters?

5%


Is the 5% tolerance in the patent claim?


i'm not talking about the patent.

lens tolerances are 5%, which means that an 85mm lens can be anywhere
from 80.75-89.25mm.


Presumably much of that range will not infringe the patent. :-)
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