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September 5th 04, 04:30 PM
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:23:21 GMT, "Neil Gould"
wrote: Recently, posted: I didn't get that. They haven't actually manufactured the product in years? Why didn't they announce this when they actually stopped manufacturing the product. Something's rotten in Denmark! (or is it Rochester) What might that be? Isn't it more telling that they can shut down production for years without running out of inventory? From this, it seems clear that the market has abandoned TP, not the other way around. Yes, that is the explanation although most refuse to see it. AIR, I read a line in Kodak's 10k filing with the SEC where they stated that sales of low ISO emulsions had died. When you have a publicly held company, widows and orphans depending on those dividends, you can't subsidize the money loosing lines. As much techno geek status as there was in creating and manufacturing a product like TP, if they can't make money on it, they have to drop it. 
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September 5th 04, 04:30 PM
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:23:21 GMT, "Neil Gould"
wrote: Recently, posted: I didn't get that. They haven't actually manufactured the product in years? Why didn't they announce this when they actually stopped manufacturing the product. Something's rotten in Denmark! (or is it Rochester) What might that be? Isn't it more telling that they can shut down production for years without running out of inventory? From this, it seems clear that the market has abandoned TP, not the other way around. Yes, that is the explanation although most refuse to see it. AIR, I read a line in Kodak's 10k filing with the SEC where they stated that sales of low ISO emulsions had died. When you have a publicly held company, widows and orphans depending on those dividends, you can't subsidize the money loosing lines. As much techno geek status as there was in creating and manufacturing a product like TP, if they can't make money on it, they have to drop it.
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September 5th 04, 04:43 PM
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Neil Gould wrote:
Recently, posted: I didn't get that. They haven't actually manufactured the product in years? Why didn't they announce this when they actually stopped manufacturing the product. Something's rotten in Denmark! (or is it Rochester) What might that be? Isn't it more telling that they can shut down production for years without running out of inventory? From this, it seems clear that the market has abandoned TP, not the other way around. Telling of what? 1) They can't manage thier inventory? 2) Thier batch size is so huge they have to make one batch representing several years of demand? 3) They invested so little in promoting the film nobody knew it existed? Maybe people did stop wanting it but I wonder. Nick
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September 5th 04, 04:43 PM
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Neil Gould wrote:
Recently, posted: I didn't get that. They haven't actually manufactured the product in years? Why didn't they announce this when they actually stopped manufacturing the product. Something's rotten in Denmark! (or is it Rochester) What might that be? Isn't it more telling that they can shut down production for years without running out of inventory? From this, it seems clear that the market has abandoned TP, not the other way around. Telling of what? 1) They can't manage thier inventory? 2) Thier batch size is so huge they have to make one batch representing several years of demand? 3) They invested so little in promoting the film nobody knew it existed? Maybe people did stop wanting it but I wonder. Nick
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September 5th 04, 04:43 PM
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Neil Gould wrote:
Recently, posted: I didn't get that. They haven't actually manufactured the product in years? Why didn't they announce this when they actually stopped manufacturing the product. Something's rotten in Denmark! (or is it Rochester) What might that be? Isn't it more telling that they can shut down production for years without running out of inventory? From this, it seems clear that the market has abandoned TP, not the other way around. Telling of what? 1) They can't manage thier inventory? 2) Thier batch size is so huge they have to make one batch representing several years of demand? 3) They invested so little in promoting the film nobody knew it existed? Maybe people did stop wanting it but I wonder. Nick
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September 5th 04, 06:22 PM
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"Nick Zentena" posted:
"... 2) Thier batch size is so huge they have to make one batch representing several years of demand? ...." Bingo ... That's "the nature of the beast." Picture a 'sheet' of plastic, something like 12" to 36" wide and several MILES long. That is coated with the 'emulsion' layer(s), slit to the specified width, cut to the specified length, and packaged to become that little roll of film you purchase at the drug store. It is only economical to manufacture this kind of product in batches of several million rolls ...
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September 5th 04, 06:22 PM
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"Nick Zentena" posted:
"... 2) Thier batch size is so huge they have to make one batch representing several years of demand? ...." Bingo ... That's "the nature of the beast." Picture a 'sheet' of plastic, something like 12" to 36" wide and several MILES long. That is coated with the 'emulsion' layer(s), slit to the specified width, cut to the specified length, and packaged to become that little roll of film you purchase at the drug store. It is only economical to manufacture this kind of product in batches of several million rolls ...
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#18
September 5th 04, 06:22 PM
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"Nick Zentena" posted:
"... 2) Thier batch size is so huge they have to make one batch representing several years of demand? ...." Bingo ... That's "the nature of the beast." Picture a 'sheet' of plastic, something like 12" to 36" wide and several MILES long. That is coated with the 'emulsion' layer(s), slit to the specified width, cut to the specified length, and packaged to become that little roll of film you purchase at the drug store. It is only economical to manufacture this kind of product in batches of several million rolls ...
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September 5th 04, 09:02 PM
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RSD99 wrote:
"Nick Zentena" posted: "... 2) Thier batch size is so huge they have to make one batch representing several years of demand? ..." Bingo ... That's "the nature of the beast." Picture a 'sheet' of plastic, something like 12" to 36" wide and several MILES long. That is coated with the 'emulsion' layer(s), slit to the specified width, cut to the specified length, and packaged to become that little roll of film you purchase at the drug store. It is only economical to manufacture this kind of product in batches of several million rolls ... Didn't Konica used make it's IR film once a year? I'd guess an IR film wouldn't exactly be a big seller either. Nick
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#20
September 5th 04, 09:02 PM
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RSD99 wrote:
"Nick Zentena" posted: "... 2) Thier batch size is so huge they have to make one batch representing several years of demand? ..." Bingo ... That's "the nature of the beast." Picture a 'sheet' of plastic, something like 12" to 36" wide and several MILES long. That is coated with the 'emulsion' layer(s), slit to the specified width, cut to the specified length, and packaged to become that little roll of film you purchase at the drug store. It is only economical to manufacture this kind of product in batches of several million rolls ... Didn't Konica used make it's IR film once a year? I'd guess an IR film wouldn't exactly be a big seller either. Nick
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