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Old August 12th 14, 06:35 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Best storage/retrieval system for images & MacBookPro

In article 2014081208474139936-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

I have 4TB of images and a 1TB MacBookPro. Images are at present on
several external HD. What is best way to store images for ready
retrieval? Anything more efficient/suitable than "network attached
storage" (NAS) like the units sold by Buffalo?
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage

A external USB RAID should be faster.I would have asked this in
comp.sys.mac.system...

Agreed, a RAID would probably be best If not USB3 then consider FW800
or Thunderbolt. I usually got to OWC for my drives and stuff Mac, they
have quite a few options.


raid is not needed unless he needs high availability, which he more
than likely does not.

if he doesn't, then a normal network share + good backup strategy is
*much* better and less expensive.

raid is not a backup.

his question is also not mac specific.


What part of "I have 4TB of images and a 1TB MacBookPro" isn't Mac specific?


the original poster may have a mac, but the answer is not mac specific.

the answer would be the same for someone with a 1 tb windows laptop
(other than afp being highly desired).

It sounds to me that he is looking to consolidate the 4TB of image
files from the several external HDs he is currently using, and a good
RAID with some redundancy can provide that storage with easy retrieval.
He didn't ask anything about back up, that is a different question.
That said having the RAID as part of a network server is also a viable
possibility.


raid is high availability and most people don't need that.

raid is not a backup.

he didn't ask about a backup but he absolutely needs to consider that
because if the server fails and there is no backup, the images are
lost.
  #12  
Old August 12th 14, 06:35 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , android
wrote:

I have 4TB of images and a 1TB MacBookPro. Images are at present on
several external HD. What is best way to store images for ready
retrieval? Anything more efficient/suitable than "network attached
storage" (NAS) like the units sold by Buffalo?
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage

A external USB RAID should be faster.I would have asked this in
comp.sys.mac.system...

usb requires a cable and a network server does not.

also, a raid is not needed unless he requires constant availability
which is unlikely.

Jupp, he saves on the cable... The should make the deal a done one! ;-p


it's not about saving money on the cable. it's about convenience and
workflow.


;-PPPPP


???

he has a laptop, so why would he want to be tethered to a hard drive,
which he'll have to plug and unplug all the time as he moves about?


Faster file access. He might wanna work them files, you know...


802.11n (and certainly 802.11ac) is more than enough for accessing and
editing files since it's cached.

a network share will be available no matter where he is in his house or
office, and can even be configured to be accessible from the outside
world if that's desired.


True. It might be a steeper learning curve to configure a NAS that way
though...


there are nas devices that require nothing more than plugging them in.

it will also be accessible from another computer should he get one at a
later time (or maybe he already has one).


He asked about access from his Mac. If he wants to work from a Linux box
or something too: Then you're right, off course!


it's the same no matter what computers he has.
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Old August 12th 14, 07:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Best storage/retrieval system for images & MacBookPro

In article , nospam wrote:

Savageduck:
It sounds to me that he is looking to consolidate the 4TB of image
files from the several external HDs he is currently using, and a
good RAID with some redundancy can provide that storage with easy
retrieval. He didn't ask anything about back up, that is a
different question. That said having the RAID as part of a network
server is also a viable possibility.


raid is high availability and most people don't need that.


raid is not a backup.


Uhm, a mirrored raid most certainly is backup, saved me a number of times.

I currently have a 12TB RAID5 NAS on my desk, all data backed up for
hardware failure.


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  #14  
Old August 12th 14, 07:33 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Best storage/retrieval system for images & MacBookPro

In article , Sandman
wrote:

It sounds to me that he is looking to consolidate the 4TB of image
files from the several external HDs he is currently using, and a
good RAID with some redundancy can provide that storage with easy
retrieval. He didn't ask anything about back up, that is a
different question. That said having the RAID as part of a network
server is also a viable possibility.


raid is high availability and most people don't need that.


raid is not a backup.


Uhm, a mirrored raid most certainly is backup, saved me a number of times.


raid is not a backup.

raid is high availability.

if you have a hardware failure in a raid, you can keep working while
you replace the failed drives. that's very useful for a business who
won't want to turn away customers while the restore takes place.

for a home user, it's not a big deal if there's a little down time
while a restore takes place. it's annoying, but it's not the end of the
world. go out to dinner or play tennis or something.

raid is *not* a backup because it's still a single copy. you're only
covered if there's a single drive failure. if you corrupt a file or
accidentally delete it, it's gone. if multiple drives fail at the same
time and it's more than you have redundancy, you lose all.

it's also not unusual to have a hard drive in a raid fail and when you
replace it, another drive fails *while* it's working hard to rebuild
the redundancy. remember, it's going to work non-stop to rebuild. if
that happens before it's done rebuilding, you lose everything. this is
more common than one might think because people frequently buy drives
in a group and load up the raid, which means they come from the same
batch and are likely to fail around the same time.

I currently have a 12TB RAID5 NAS on my desk, all data backed up for
hardware failure.


not unless you have *another* 12 tb drive.
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Old August 12th 14, 07:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Best storage/retrieval system for images & MacBookPro

On 8/12/2014 1:35 PM, nospam wrote:
In article 2014081208474139936-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

I have 4TB of images and a 1TB MacBookPro. Images are at present on
several external HD. What is best way to store images for ready
retrieval? Anything more efficient/suitable than "network attached
storage" (NAS) like the units sold by Buffalo?
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage

A external USB RAID should be faster.I would have asked this in
comp.sys.mac.system...

Agreed, a RAID would probably be best If not USB3 then consider FW800
or Thunderbolt. I usually got to OWC for my drives and stuff Mac, they
have quite a few options.


The OP did not specify whether he needed high availability.
What is the basis for your assumption that the OP does not need high
availability.


raid is not needed unless he needs high availability, which he more
than likely does not.


The OP did not specify whether he needed high availability.
What is the basis for your assumption that the OP does not need high
availability.

if he doesn't, then a normal network share + good backup strategy is
*much* better and less expensive.

raid is not a backup.

his question is also not mac specific.


What part of "I have 4TB of images and a 1TB MacBookPro" isn't Mac specific?


the original poster may have a mac, but the answer is not mac specific.

the answer would be the same for someone with a 1 tb windows laptop
(other than afp being highly desired).

It sounds to me that he is looking to consolidate the 4TB of image
files from the several external HDs he is currently using, and a good
RAID with some redundancy can provide that storage with easy retrieval.
He didn't ask anything about back up, that is a different question.
That said having the RAID as part of a network server is also a viable
possibility.


raid is high availability and most people don't need that.


The OP did not specify whether he needed high availability.
What is the basis for your assumption that the OP does not need high
availability.

raid is not a backup.

he didn't ask about a backup but he absolutely needs to consider that
because if the server fails and there is no backup, the images are
lost.

Always a good idea.

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PeterN
  #16  
Old August 12th 14, 07:55 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Best storage/retrieval system for images & MacBookPro

On 8/12/2014 2:07 PM, Sandman wrote:
In article , nospam wrote:

Savageduck:
It sounds to me that he is looking to consolidate the 4TB of image
files from the several external HDs he is currently using, and a
good RAID with some redundancy can provide that storage with easy
retrieval. He didn't ask anything about back up, that is a
different question. That said having the RAID as part of a network
server is also a viable possibility.


raid is high availability and most people don't need that.


raid is not a backup.


Uhm, a mirrored raid most certainly is backup, saved me a number of times.

Yup!


I currently have a 12TB RAID5 NAS on my desk, all data backed up for
hardware failure.




--
PeterN
  #17  
Old August 12th 14, 08:01 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Best storage/retrieval system for images & MacBookPro

In article , PeterN
wrote:


Agreed, a RAID would probably be best If not USB3 then consider FW800
or Thunderbolt. I usually got to OWC for my drives and stuff Mac, they
have quite a few options.


The OP did not specify whether he needed high availability.
What is the basis for your assumption that the OP does not need high
availability.


what's *your* assumption that he does?

other than businesses that can't afford any downtime, very few people
do. it's a *very* safe bet that he does not.

but if he needs it, he can respond that he does.

and the differences were explained and he can figure it out on his own
anyway.
  #18  
Old August 12th 14, 08:45 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Best storage/retrieval system for images & MacBookPro

On 8/12/2014 3:01 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:


Agreed, a RAID would probably be best If not USB3 then consider FW800
or Thunderbolt. I usually got to OWC for my drives and stuff Mac, they
have quite a few options.


The OP did not specify whether he needed high availability.
What is the basis for your assumption that the OP does not need high
availability.


what's *your* assumption that he does?

Wxactly where did i make that assumption. You make an assumption based
upon unknown conditions.


other than businesses that can't afford any downtime, very few people
do. it's a *very* safe bet that he does not.


Exactly what do you know about his needs?


but if he needs it, he can respond that he does.


Not an answer.


and the differences were explained and he can figure it out on his own
anyway.


Stop weasling and answer my question, or admit you made an assumption
without basis in fact.

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Old August 12th 14, 08:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Best storage/retrieval system for images & MacBookPro

In article , PeterN
wrote:


Agreed, a RAID would probably be best If not USB3 then consider FW800
or Thunderbolt. I usually got to OWC for my drives and stuff Mac, they
have quite a few options.

The OP did not specify whether he needed high availability.
What is the basis for your assumption that the OP does not need high
availability.


what's *your* assumption that he does?

Wxactly where did i make that assumption. You make an assumption based
upon unknown conditions.


nope.

i am going by the information he gave when he asked the question.

you're assuming he has withheld information and you're also trying to
start an argument, as usual.

other than businesses that can't afford any downtime, very few people
do. it's a *very* safe bet that he does not.


Exactly what do you know about his needs?


by what he wrote. duh.

but if he needs it, he can respond that he does.


Not an answer.


it is.

if he has withheld critical information then there's not much anyone
can do.

and the differences were explained and he can figure it out on his own
anyway.


Stop weasling and answer my question, or admit you made an assumption
without basis in fact.


i'm not the one who is weaseling.

you're trying to start yet another argument. you're a sad sorry case.
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Old August 12th 14, 09:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Best storage/retrieval system for images & MacBookPro

On 2014-08-12 18:54:26 +0000, PeterN said:

On 8/12/2014 1:35 PM, nospam wrote:
In article 2014081208474139936-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

I have 4TB of images and a 1TB MacBookPro. Images are at present on
several external HD. What is best way to store images for ready
retrieval? Anything more efficient/suitable than "network attached
storage" (NAS) like the units sold by Buffalo?
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage

A external USB RAID should be faster.I would have asked this in
comp.sys.mac.system...

Agreed, a RAID would probably be best If not USB3 then consider FW800
or Thunderbolt. I usually got to OWC for my drives and stuff Mac, they
have quite a few options.


The OP did not specify whether he needed high availability.
What is the basis for your assumption that the OP does not need high
availability.


Huh? Your question doesn't make sense.
The OP asks "What is the best way to store images for ready retrieval?"
Nothing above mentions "high availability". That term is first used by
*nospam* below.

You have snipped the OP's (Don Tuttle) & Android's attributes which
confuse the dialog. You appear to be responding to *nospam*, but his
first quote only appears below this little rant of mine.


raid is not needed unless he needs high availability, which he more
than likely does not.


The OP did not specify whether he needed high availability.
What is the basis for your assumption that the OP does not need high
availability.

if he doesn't, then a normal network share + good backup strategy is
*much* better and less expensive.

raid is not a backup.

his question is also not mac specific.

What part of "I have 4TB of images and a 1TB MacBookPro" isn't Mac specific?


the original poster may have a mac, but the answer is not mac specific.

the answer would be the same for someone with a 1 tb windows laptop
(other than afp being highly desired).

It sounds to me that he is looking to consolidate the 4TB of image
files from the several external HDs he is currently using, and a good
RAID with some redundancy can provide that storage with easy retrieval.
He didn't ask anything about back up, that is a different question.
That said having the RAID as part of a network server is also a viable
possibility.


raid is high availability and most people don't need that.


The OP did not specify whether he needed high availability.
What is the basis for your assumption that the OP does not need high
availability.

raid is not a backup.

he didn't ask about a backup but he absolutely needs to consider that
because if the server fails and there is no backup, the images are
lost.

Always a good idea.



--
Regards,

Savageduck

 




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