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Seriously Epic Drone Footage from Iceland to Get Your Heart and Wanderlust Racing
On 2014-12-17 01:30:10 +0000, Eric Stevens said:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:03:30 -0500, PeterN wrote: On 12/16/2014 12:56 PM, Rikishi42 wrote: On 2014-12-10, PeterN wrote: On 12/9/2014 8:02 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: The day is coming when still photography is to video as monochrome is to colour. See: http://petapixel.com/2014/12/07/seri...erlust-racing/ or http://tinyurl.com/lezpmbn Good images. But, I don't agree with your analogy. It takes more skill to capture emotion in a monochrome, than in color. Come to think of it, making a still image that captures the feeling of a place is more difficult than making a video. True, but is the goal to make things as difficult as possible? If it is, I would argue that expressing an emotion in a cave wall painting was even more difficult. And therefor not even a monochrome photographer could ever hope to reach the artistic level of a Neaderthal artist. I suspect it certainly would require a hihg degree of skill to make an emotional cave man drawing. BTW IIRC Cro Magnon were alo cave men. Seriously, with a color image, the color will often carry an image that would be considered mediocore in monochrome. Monochrome is principally about form. Form can be enhanced by colour but many people see only the colour and are completely unswayed by the form. Here is an example of where color is a poor option: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_1088.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Seriously Epic Drone Footage from Iceland to Get Your Heart and Wanderlust Racing
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:54:43 -0800, Savageduck
wrote: On 2014-12-17 01:30:10 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:03:30 -0500, PeterN wrote: On 12/16/2014 12:56 PM, Rikishi42 wrote: On 2014-12-10, PeterN wrote: On 12/9/2014 8:02 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: The day is coming when still photography is to video as monochrome is to colour. See: http://petapixel.com/2014/12/07/seri...erlust-racing/ or http://tinyurl.com/lezpmbn Good images. But, I don't agree with your analogy. It takes more skill to capture emotion in a monochrome, than in color. Come to think of it, making a still image that captures the feeling of a place is more difficult than making a video. True, but is the goal to make things as difficult as possible? If it is, I would argue that expressing an emotion in a cave wall painting was even more difficult. And therefor not even a monochrome photographer could ever hope to reach the artistic level of a Neaderthal artist. I suspect it certainly would require a hihg degree of skill to make an emotional cave man drawing. BTW IIRC Cro Magnon were alo cave men. Seriously, with a color image, the color will often carry an image that would be considered mediocore in monochrome. Monochrome is principally about form. Form can be enhanced by colour but many people see only the colour and are completely unswayed by the form. Here is an example of where color is a poor option: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_1088.jpg And here is one where color plays a part. The question is, is it monochrome or not? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC6466.jpg -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Seriously Epic Drone Footage from Iceland to Get Your Heart and Wanderlust Racing
On 2014-12-17 02:54:07 +0000, Eric Stevens said:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:54:43 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-12-17 01:30:10 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:03:30 -0500, PeterN wrote: Le Snip Seriously, with a color image, the color will often carry an image that would be considered mediocore in monochrome. Monochrome is principally about form. Form can be enhanced by colour but many people see only the colour and are completely unswayed by the form. Here is an example of where color is a poor option: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_1088.jpg And here is one where color plays a part. The question is, is it monochrome or not? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC6466.jpg Now that is an eyeful of iron & steel. On close inspection I would hesitate to call that a monochome. Certainly there is a toning element to it, and other than the structure there are few clues to the true nature of the part color has to play other than in that tone. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Seriously Epic Drone Footage from Iceland to Get Your Heart and Wanderlust Racing
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 19:05:03 -0800, Savageduck
wrote: On 2014-12-17 02:54:07 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:54:43 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-12-17 01:30:10 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:03:30 -0500, PeterN wrote: Le Snip Seriously, with a color image, the color will often carry an image that would be considered mediocore in monochrome. Monochrome is principally about form. Form can be enhanced by colour but many people see only the colour and are completely unswayed by the form. Here is an example of where color is a poor option: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_1088.jpg And here is one where color plays a part. The question is, is it monochrome or not? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC6466.jpg Now that is an eyeful of iron & steel. On close inspection I would hesitate to call that a monochome. Certainly there is a toning element to it, and other than the structure there are few clues to the true nature of the part color has to play other than in that tone. That's one from my Paintshop Pro days. I created a second layer and converted it to black and white. I then played around with the transparency until I got the appearance I wanted with some of the original colour bleeding through. I forget which layer was on top. Around about the centre of the image you will see stairs climbing up to the left. If you look carefully you will see the heads and chests in full colour of people climbing those stairs. I had wanted them to be a little more conspicuous but unfortunately the structure is so large that the people are only a few pixels in size. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Seriously Epic Drone Footage from Iceland to Get Your Heart andWanderlust Racing
On 12/16/14 PDT, 5:47 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-12-16 22:03:30 +0000, PeterN said: Seriously, with a color image, the color will often carry an image that would be considered mediocore in monochrome. That is true in this case: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_1087.jpg Interesting discussion and images. This latter one, for me, is a toss up between the mono and multichromes. |
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Seriously Epic Drone Footage from Iceland to Get Your Heart andWanderlust Racing
On 12/16/2014 10:05 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-12-17 02:54:07 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:54:43 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-12-17 01:30:10 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:03:30 -0500, PeterN wrote: Le Snip Seriously, with a color image, the color will often carry an image that would be considered mediocore in monochrome. Monochrome is principally about form. Form can be enhanced by colour but many people see only the colour and are completely unswayed by the form. Here is an example of where color is a poor option: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_1088.jpg And here is one where color plays a part. The question is, is it monochrome or not? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC6466.jpg Now that is an eyeful of iron & steel. On close inspection I would hesitate to call that a monochome. Certainly there is a toning element to it, and other than the structure there are few clues to the true nature of the part color has to play other than in that tone. To my eye the difference in tones is due to natural lighting effects. I saw noting to indicate it is not monotone. -- PeterN |
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Seriously Epic Drone Footage from Iceland to Get Your Heart and Wanderlust Racing
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:54:07 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:54:43 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-12-17 01:30:10 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:03:30 -0500, PeterN wrote: On 12/16/2014 12:56 PM, Rikishi42 wrote: On 2014-12-10, PeterN wrote: On 12/9/2014 8:02 PM, Eric Stevens wrote: The day is coming when still photography is to video as monochrome is to colour. See: http://petapixel.com/2014/12/07/seri...erlust-racing/ or http://tinyurl.com/lezpmbn Good images. But, I don't agree with your analogy. It takes more skill to capture emotion in a monochrome, than in color. Come to think of it, making a still image that captures the feeling of a place is more difficult than making a video. True, but is the goal to make things as difficult as possible? If it is, I would argue that expressing an emotion in a cave wall painting was even more difficult. And therefor not even a monochrome photographer could ever hope to reach the artistic level of a Neaderthal artist. I suspect it certainly would require a hihg degree of skill to make an emotional cave man drawing. BTW IIRC Cro Magnon were alo cave men. Seriously, with a color image, the color will often carry an image that would be considered mediocore in monochrome. Monochrome is principally about form. Form can be enhanced by colour but many people see only the colour and are completely unswayed by the form. Here is an example of where color is a poor option: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_1088.jpg And here is one where color plays a part. The question is, is it monochrome or not? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC6466.jpg And here is one where it only works in color https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC0793.jpg -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Seriously Epic Drone Footage from Iceland to Get Your Heart and Wanderlust Racing
On 2014-12-17 18:36:41 +0000, Eric Stevens said:
And here is one where it only works in color https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC0793.jpg You might think that if you hadn't tried it with a BW treatment. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/ES-01.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Seriously Epic Drone Footage from Iceland to Get Your Heart and Wanderlust Racing
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:11:20 -0800, Savageduck
wrote: On 2014-12-17 18:36:41 +0000, Eric Stevens said: And here is one where it only works in color https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3/_DSC0793.jpg You might think that if you hadn't tried it with a BW treatment. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/ES-01.jpg I had, and 'nope'. :-) -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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