Happy election day!

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

But I'm trying to figure out what jobs will absorb, say, 40% of the
workforce if/when they become unemployed over a period of, say, 8 years.

How many of that 40% will retire?

a lot.

Per Bill W:
Pen & a phone sound familiar?

That reference zipped right over my head.
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Pete Cresswell

Per Bill W:
I'm sure there's lots of troubling things he *wants* to do, but how,
for instance

One variation that somebody mentioned was the president's power to ban
immigration from designated countries.
--
Pete Cresswell

On 11/11/2016 8:29 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per PeterN:

I hope you're right, but.......

My little ray of hope is that so many really-smart, well-informed people
were so wrong about Trump's chances at every turn of the road that
maybe, just *maybe* just-as-smart, just-as-knowledgeable people are
going to be at least a *little* bit wrong about the prognosis for his
presidency.

Tangentially, one guy wondered where he was going to get foreign policy
expertise because most of the expertise in Washington signed off on that
anti-Trump letter.

Another guy opined that Trump is all about winning - and a lot is going
to depend on what he considers "winning".


You should have that figured that out. According to Trump, there is no
"we" in winning.

--
PeterN

Per PAS:
If the ACA is a success, I hate to see what a failure is.

One indication of failure would be somebody having to barter with their
veterinarian for "medical" advice and use veterinary drugs to treat
their own infections..... and dreading the day when one winds up in the
ER and the lawyers start a feeding frenzy to confiscate all their
property to pay off the ER bills.

That's how it was with my #1 daughter until ACA came along. Now it
isn't.... but it looks like things will revert soon and she will be back
to the former situation.
--
Pete Cresswell

Per PAS:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-voters-will-not-like-what-happens-next/2016/11/09/e346ffc2-a67f-11e6-8fc0-7be8f848c492_story.html
What drivel.

Couple-two-three years and we will know for sure.
--
Pete Cresswell

On 11/11/2016 2:10 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article bh8a2cl3caefvog2ctanqju5ea0p23jqqo@
4ax.com, lid says...
Per J. Clarke:
And the opinion of a guy who writes radio comedy
for PBS matters because?
He's an extremely-smart guy.... And I barely have the brains to tie my
shoes..... So my strategy is to listen to as many smart guys without
extreme agendas as I can and try to get some truth out of synthesizing
their (often contradictory) views.

Rush Limbaugh and his ilk are not among them.... but I have to say that
I *did* get something out of listening to Charlie Rose interview Glenn
Beck last week.
If he's so smart what has he actually done that
requires intelligence and not mere glibness?

I've seen him do a lot of sneering at "fly-over
country". Fly-over country just showed its
teeth. Instead of continuing to sneer maybe he
should figure out what he and his ilk did wrong.

Probably not. He and his ilk think that their opinion is superior to
other's.

On 11/15/2016 2:16 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per PAS:
If the ACA is a success, I hate to see what a failure is.

One indication of failure would be somebody having to barter with their
veterinarian for "medical" advice and use veterinary drugs to treat
their own infections..... and dreading the day when one winds up in the
ER and the lawyers start a feeding frenzy to confiscate all their
property to pay off the ER bills.

That's how it was with my #1 daughter until ACA came along. Now it
isn't.... but it looks like things will revert soon and she will be back
to the former situation.


Even the Donald has stated that some parts will be retained. Namely
pre-existing conditions would not be a basis for denial of coverage, and
kids up to 26 can be covered under their parents policies.

--
PeterN

On 11/15/2016 8:44 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 18:12:55 -0500, PeterN
wrote:

On 11/15/2016 2:16 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per PAS:
If the ACA is a success, I hate to see what a failure is.

One indication of failure would be somebody having to barter with their
veterinarian for "medical" advice and use veterinary drugs to treat
their own infections..... and dreading the day when one winds up in the
ER and the lawyers start a feeding frenzy to confiscate all their
property to pay off the ER bills.

That's how it was with my #1 daughter until ACA came along. Now it
isn't.... but it looks like things will revert soon and she will be back
to the former situation.


Even the Donald has stated that some parts will be retained. Namely
pre-existing conditions would not be a basis for denial of coverage,

It's been pointed out that just retaining this will not solve the
problem. Megalith Insurance Co will cover you, but the premium will
be astronomical. The feature has to be retained with limitations on
the premium for pre-existing conditions.


As it stands today, Insurance premiums are only be regulated bu the
States.

http://www.naic.org/documents/topics_white_paper_hist_ins_reg.pdf

For an interesting analysis of this question see:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-07-31/insurers-are-risky-dot-federal-regulation-may-be-the-answer

--
PeterN

On 11/11/2016 10:29 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 11/11/2016 8:21 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per nospam:

this is one of the best examples why unions are *bad*.

Without unions, where is the balance of power?

In the extremes, unions want to take all the company's money and not
work at all - and companies want to work us 24-7 with no pay and sell
our carcasses for fertilizer.

Somewhere in the middle, there's a sane balance - but without some
semblance of similar power on either side things get skewed.

For a few years, my #2 daughter and my nephew had the same jobs in the
travel industry.

The daughter got close to minimum wage, no health coverage, no vacation
or sick days. When the workload increased suddenly, everybody had to
just keep working through dinner time and into the night - with no extra
pay and the employer didn't even send in pizza or sandwiches....
everybody simply went hungry.

The nephew made a living wage, had complete medical coverage, had 8
(*eight*) weeks paid vacation, worked eight hours a day... period.

The diff?

The daughter was working in a non-union shop in Philadelphia PA USA.

The nephew was working in a union shop in Germany.

If somebody is going to try to convince me that unions are all bad,
they've got a hard sell.


Some unions have learned, the hard way, to be responsible. In that
there is no magic fountain that spews money just for showing up.
Similarly, employers that value their workers treat the workers like
people. Early this year my daughter became critically ill, she was in
a coma for about two weeks. Her employer was self insured. She
received full salary for the entire time she was sick, (about three
months,) and they covered all of her medical bills. They would not let
her come back to her full duties until they were sure she was fully
recovered. Yes, I know that not not all companies treat their
employees that fairly, but I'm sure her work habits, she regularly
works a 70-75 hour week, and is highly productive had a lot to do with
the way she was treated.
I had some manufacturers as clients, who were non-union. One of them
was in financial trouble. Management made a deal with the employees,
that they all, including the owner, took a cut in pay. If business
came back to certain levels wages would be increased. Business
increased, and the workers wound up making more money. Management was
able to convey that they all worked for the good of the company. If
the company did well, they all benefited. If the company did poorly,
they all had to help the company. It's an idealistic business model
that only works if both management and the workers have a good
relationship, and neither gets piggy.


Like businesses, there are some bad unions. In a sense, they have
simply become a business themselves with the union officers looking to
enrich themselves at the expense of their members. I think all workers,
union or not, have benefited for what unions did many years ago to
improve the pay and working conditions for their members.