360 degree panorama gear

Pat Cooney wrote:
Hi all,

I have been hired to take some 360 degree QTVR photos for a
client. I currently am using a manfrotto QTVR head that works great
for most of the images my client wants, but there is one image in
particular that I'm concerned about.

The image requires a lot of people to be in the shot, and to be in
movement when photoed, if that makes any sense. It's a photo of a
train station, and he wants people stepping off and on the train and
milling about the station, but done in a 360 degree panoramic shot.

I have no clue how to do this with the tradition way of rotating
the camera 20 degrees or whatever and shooting photo after photo.

I recently purchased a mirror apparatus that fits onto the lens of
the camera and allows me to take a 360 photo with one shot from VR
interactive (www.vri.ca). This idea seemed perfect because then I
could capture all sorts of motion without worrying about how to
stitch it. The problem is, the mirror is of poor quality and I'll
never been able to capture a nice, high res image using it.

I was wondering if any of you had any ideas, maybe on a mirror
type apparatus of higher quality or of a technique using the
tradtional 360 pano head that would allow me to capture that motion.

Maybe a Cirkut camera? Don't think that would give you 360 though...

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This may sound crazy, but then I'm a mere amateur, so I'm allowed to
have crazy ideas g.

Can you get a camera and lens with 120 degree angle with adequate
quality - or, more precisely, can you get 4 such cameras, arranged
looking out of a square, and synchronised to fire together?

4 x 120 degrees will give to about 15 degrees on each side of each image
that would overlap.

Just an idea!

George.

Pat Cooney wrote:

Hi all,

I have been hired to take some 360 degree QTVR photos for a client.
I currently am using a manfrotto QTVR head that works great for most
of the images my client wants, but there is one image in particular
that I'm concerned about.

The image requires a lot of people to be in the shot, and to be in
movement when photoed, if that makes any sense. It's a photo of a
train station, and he wants people stepping off and on the train and
milling about the station, but done in a 360 degree panoramic shot.

I have no clue how to do this with the tradition way of rotating the
camera 20 degrees or whatever and shooting photo after photo.

I recently purchased a mirror apparatus that fits onto the lens of
the camera and allows me to take a 360 photo with one shot from VR
interactive (www.vri.ca). This idea seemed perfect because then I
could capture all sorts of motion without worrying about how to stitch
it. The problem is, the mirror is of poor quality and I'll never been
able to capture a nice, high res image using it.

I was wondering if any of you had any ideas, maybe on a mirror type
apparatus of higher quality or of a technique using the tradtional 360
pano head that would allow me to capture that motion.

Thanks in advance.

Pat

(Pat Cooney) writes:

The image requires a lot of people to be in the shot, and to be in
movement when photoed, if that makes any sense. It's a photo of a
train station, and he wants people stepping off and on the train and
milling about the station, but done in a 360 degree panoramic shot.

There are mirrors that let you do 360 cylinders in one shot; see
http://www.0-360.com/
http://www.kaidan.com/Detail.bok?no=101

SNIP
I recently purchased a mirror apparatus that fits onto the lens of
the camera and allows me to take a 360 photo with one shot from VR
interactive (www.vri.ca). This idea seemed perfect because then I
could capture all sorts of motion without worrying about how to stitch
it. The problem is, the mirror is of poor quality and I'll never been
able to capture a nice, high res image using it.

Drop by
http://www.z360.com/index1.htm
Select Panoramas, then select Worldwide Panorama Day -- it's a fullscreen
pano in the middle of a group of protestors. Compare that with your
quality.

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"Phil Stripling" wrote in message
...
(Pat Cooney) writes:

The image requires a lot of people to be in the shot, and to be in
movement when photoed, if that makes any sense. It's a photo of a
train station, and he wants people stepping off and on the train and
milling about the station, but done in a 360 degree panoramic shot.

There are mirrors that let you do 360 cylinders in one shot; see
http://www.0-360.com/
http://www.kaidan.com/Detail.bok?no=101

SNIP
I recently purchased a mirror apparatus that fits onto the lens of
the camera and allows me to take a 360 photo with one shot from VR
interactive (www.vri.ca). This idea seemed perfect because then I
could capture all sorts of motion without worrying about how to stitch
it. The problem is, the mirror is of poor quality and I'll never been
able to capture a nice, high res image using it.

Drop by
http://www.z360.com/index1.htm
Select Panoramas, then select Worldwide Panorama Day -- it's a fullscreen
pano in the middle of a group of protestors. Compare that with your
quality.

--
Philip Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed
Legal Assistance on the Web | spam and read later. email to philip@
http://www.PhilipStripling.com/ | my domain is read daily.


What systems (and how big) are used in the Z360 site? Those are a lot more
sophisticated than Kaidan/0-360's.

"leo" writes:

What systems (and how big) are used in the Z360 site? Those are a lot more
sophisticated than Kaidan/0-360's.

I dunno. Drop them a line and ask.

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On 2004-07-12, George Bolgar wrote:
This may sound crazy, but then I'm a mere amateur, so I'm allowed to have
crazy ideas g.

Well, if we are going to throw out crazy ideas...I don't know if they are
available with enough resolution, but there are video cameras that can
record 1000 frames per second. Mount one of these on something that is
rotating at 3600 RPM and that will shoot 16.67 frames per revolution, giving
approximately the 20 degrees between frame that someone earlier mentioned as
the normal for shooting panoramas.

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--Tim Smith

George Bolgar writes:

Can you get a camera and lens with 120 degree angle with adequate
quality - or, more precisely, can you get 4 such cameras, arranged
looking out of a square, and synchronised to fire together?

120 degrees is a pretty extreme wideangle. On a full-frame 35 mm
camera, the focal length needed is 10.4 mm. You are talking about a
*rectilinear* wideangle of that focal length, not a fisheye, which is
pretty much nonexistent. On the other hand, the more cameras, the
narrower (and more practical) the field of view.

Dave

George Bolgar writes:

Can you get a camera and lens with 120 degree angle with adequate
quality - or, more precisely, can you get 4 such cameras, arranged
looking out of a square, and synchronised to fire together?

120 degrees is a pretty extreme wideangle. On a full-frame 35 mm
camera, the focal length needed is 10.4 mm. You are talking about a
*rectilinear* wideangle of that focal length, not a fisheye, which is
pretty much nonexistent. On the other hand, the more cameras, the
narrower (and more practical) the field of view.

Dave