Price of used 35mm equipment

WTF, is going on with the price of used 35mm equipment? I can not believe
that Nikon F5's, F4's, n90s's etc.. and associated Nikon f2.8 lenses and
accessories are selling for so little. I mean come on I saw an F5 with MF-28
sell for $725.00!!! And that was after the seller reduced it twice. These
are still current production $1500 - $2000 cameras. Also, f2.8 glass is many
times half of new price. Makes me wish I had an extra grand laying around.

"The Spectre" wrote in message
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WTF, is going on with the price of used 35mm equipment? I can not believe
that Nikon F5's, F4's, n90s's etc.. and associated Nikon f2.8 lenses and
accessories are selling for so little. I mean come on I saw an F5 with
MF-28
sell for $725.00!!! And that was after the seller reduced it twice. These
are still current production $1500 - $2000 cameras. Also, f2.8 glass is
many
times half of new price. Makes me wish I had an extra grand laying around.



DIGITALLLLLLLLLL that's what.

Yep, film is a has-been. NOW, all of you Leica shooters, I'll be glad to
dispose of any of those crappy obsolete M2's through M7's.

But seriously, one of the most balanced essays on digital vs. film (with
links, etc) is this one, by Ken Rockwell:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/filmdig.htm

Until they make decent digital cameras so that they are upgradeable, I will
maintain that all digital cameras are disposable. I use digital gear, but
it isn't an either/or situation. Currently digital is very
transient/temporary, while I use Rolleiflex TLRs that are older than I am.
Magazines still want 35mm and MF trannies, but only newspapers will touch my
digital images. And daily work is a place where digital excels. So it
appears still to be apples and oranges in comparison.

--
Lloyd

Online photo portfolio:
http://www.geocities.com/lloydetc/photoart01.html
"Nollite illegitimus contarere vos"

"Clanger" wrote in message
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"The Spectre" wrote in message
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WTF, is going on with the price of used 35mm equipment? I can not
believe
that Nikon F5's, F4's, n90s's etc.. and associated Nikon f2.8 lenses and
accessories are selling for so little. I mean come on I saw an F5 with
MF-28
sell for $725.00!!! And that was after the seller reduced it twice.
These
are still current production $1500 - $2000 cameras. Also, f2.8 glass is
many
times half of new price. Makes me wish I had an extra grand laying
around.



DIGITALLLLLLLLLL that's what.

"L Schultz" writes:
But seriously, one of the most balanced essays on digital vs. film (with
links, etc) is this one, by Ken Rockwell:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/filmdig.htm

I'm sorry, but that article is a ridiculous rant. He compares a shot
from a nameless digicam to one from a 4x5 view camera that can only be
used on a tripod. He says the best way to get digital images is from
scanned film, but not with a cheap consumer scanner like a $10,000
Imacon. To get a really fair comparison between film and digital,
according to him, you're supposed to use a $50,000 Heidelberg scanner
operated by someone with years of training. Sheesh.

Until they make decent digital cameras so that they are upgradeable, I will
maintain that all digital cameras are disposable.

True, but to many professionals, all cameras are disposable.

I use digital gear, but it isn't an either/or situation. Currently
digital is very transient/temporary, while I use Rolleiflex TLRs
that are older than I am. Magazines still want 35mm and MF
trannies, but only newspapers will touch my digital images. And
daily work is a place where digital excels. So it appears still to
be apples and oranges in comparison.

Nah, magazines are printing lots of digital images too.

It's obvious to me that film will always be with us, but will become
more and more of a specialty medium.

"Clanger" wrote in message
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"The Spectre" wrote in message
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WTF, is going on with the price of used 35mm equipment? I can not
believe
that Nikon F5's, F4's, n90s's etc.. and associated Nikon f2.8 lenses and
accessories are selling for so little. I mean come on I saw an F5 with
MF-28
sell for $725.00!!! And that was after the seller reduced it twice.
These
are still current production $1500 - $2000 cameras. Also, f2.8 glass is
many
times half of new price. Makes me wish I had an extra grand laying
around.



DIGITALLLLLLLLLL that's what.


Yep. Someone yelled DIGITAL and all of a sudden there was a panic as if
being caught in a Chinese fire drill.

Nick

The Spectre wrote:

WTF, is going on with the price of used 35mm equipment? I can not believe
that Nikon F5's, F4's, n90s's etc.. and associated Nikon f2.8 lenses and
accessories are selling for so little.

That is PRECISELY why I chose to sell off all my film bodies when I did.
Very soon you won't be ABLE to sell them at all! You may be able to give
them away though... if you can find people still wanting them.

Steve Kramer
Chiang Mai, Thailand
http://www.photoenvisions.com

--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

"Steve Kramer" wrote:
The Spectre wrote:

WTF, is going on with the price of used 35mm equipment? I can not
believe
that Nikon F5's, F4's, n90s's etc.. and associated Nikon f2.8 lenses and
accessories are selling for so little.

That is PRECISELY why I chose to sell off all my film bodies when I did.
Very soon you won't be ABLE to sell them at all! You may be able to give
them away though... if you can find people still wanting them.

If you still have a Contax G and a lens (any Contax G lens), I'll take them
off your hands*. It would be amusing to own the highest resolution 35mm
camera ever made just as a conversation piece.

*: I might even pay you something if I can look at them first. You don't
make it back to Japan occasionally, do you???

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

"David J. Littleboy" wrote:

"Steve Kramer" wrote:
The Spectre wrote:

WTF, is going on with the price of used 35mm equipment? I can not
believe
that Nikon F5's, F4's, n90s's etc.. and associated Nikon f2.8 lenses and
accessories are selling for so little.


That is PRECISELY why I chose to sell off all my film bodies when I did.
Very soon you won't be ABLE to sell them at all! You may be able to give
them away though... if you can find people still wanting them.


If you still have a Contax G and a lens (any Contax G lens), I'll take them
off your hands*. It would be amusing to own the highest resolution 35mm
camera ever made just as a conversation piece.


Sorry, but I sold the Contax G2, the 21mm, 45mm, 90mm, and flash all as
one package. Got almost what I paid for it all too! Surprised the hell
out of me!

*: I might even pay you something if I can look at them first. You don't
make it back to Japan occasionally, do you???

We do come back once in a while, mostly for family matters, but we
usually go to Kyushu. We still keep a 3LDK condominium (fronted by a
bamboo forest and Zen temple...) in the Osaka area if anyone would like
to buy that... )

Steve Kramer
Chiang Mai, Thailand
http://www.photoenvisions.com

--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

Steve Kramer wrote in
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Sorry, but I sold the Contax G2, the 21mm, 45mm, 90mm, and flash
all as one package. Got almost what I paid for it all too!
Surprised the hell out of me!

I recently sold my old ASA 1600 Canon F-1 with the usual brassing for
a 30-year-old camera, 50/1.8 and 28/2.8 Canon lenses, extension rings,
a couple of Vivitar lenses, related filters, a Nikon N-60 and a couple
of other minor items to KEH and got considerably less than what I paid
for them originally but considerably more than I had expected,
particularly since Canon FD stuff is a dead end now.

They did say that my stuff was in unusually good condition but even so
I was surprised. A local place with a national presence on the US used
camera market had offered me disproportionately less on the Canon
stuff I took to them and that was a year ago.

Since KEH is not a naive operation, I conclude that there is still a
market for film equipment, at least if you are a dominant component of
that market.

I do expect that my current stash of bodies, including two F2 bodies,
one N-80 and a Rolleicord Vb TLR, represent the end of my film days.
The next body is likely to be what Nikon introduces as competition for
the Digital Rebel, or some such thing. Perhaps when D-100
functionality gets well below $1000.

- Shankar

Shankar Bhattacharyya writes:
I do expect that my current stash of bodies, including two F2 bodies,
one N-80 and a Rolleicord Vb TLR, represent the end of my film days.
The next body is likely to be what Nikon introduces as competition for
the Digital Rebel, or some such thing. Perhaps when D-100
functionality gets well below $1000.

That's called a D70 and should be out in a few months.