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The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
In message , tony cooper
writes On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:46:46 +0100, Chris H wrote: In message , mikey4 writes On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:26:21 +0100, Chris H wrote: Yes I have watched Fox. Also I have seen the comments from CNN, BBC and others on Fox and their handling of stores. BFD, what does that prove? Every news outlet trailing in the ratings will bad mouth the others and those in front crow about their position. Maybe in the US but not the rest of the world BTW the rest of the world is bigger than the US... it is even bigger than Texas. What is normal in the US is usually not normal in the rest of the world. You may have seen or heard negative comments about Fox News programming, but were they about Fox News news segments or Fox News political commentary host's programs? Either. The latter are not news programming. That's why it is necessary to understand what a political commentator's role is. Something you clearly don't understand. I do understand but having seem FOX news and many others the same pictures with slightly different words can portray a very different scene. I recall during the floods in New Orleans there was a comment that there were gangs of black criminals looting and white vigilantes trying to keep the peace and get supplies for people. In other words gang warfare but the very subtle differences in the words portrayed one group as criminals and the other as upholding the law when in fact there was on the whole no difference between the two groups. However that is what the audience wanted to believe. You can do the same thing with reporting the news from Afghanistan and Iraq. I recall that the Unionists in Belfast and the British Government for a while always refereed to "Sinn-fein/IAR" when talking about the Sinn-Fein Political party. And IAR when talking about the terroristis/freedom-fighters. Fox always reports from the US Republican perspective in the same way AL-Jazeer reports from the Arab perspective. However AL-Jazeer is balanced in its reporting reflecting all sides. (There is not just on "arab" veiw point just as there is not just one US viewpoint. However Fox only reports from one view point. We have news papers in the UK who are left, right and centrist. However none of them claim to be anything else. FOX claims to be balanced and un biased. That is why it is such a joke. I don't suppose you have a link to one of those comments. You never do. You just hand-wave. "Those comments" are usually on a live broadcast not a web site. The problem is you only believe things on web sites. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ |
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The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
"Chris H" wrote in message ... In message , mikey4 writes On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:26:21 +0100, Chris H wrote: Yes I have watched Fox. Also I have seen the comments from CNN, BBC and others on Fox and their handling of stores. BFD, what does that prove? Every news outlet trailing in the ratings will bad mouth the others and those in front crow about their position. Maybe in the US but not the rest of the world BTW the rest of the world is bigger than the US... But we have more lawyers. it is even bigger than Texas. I'll bet Texas alone has more lawyers. What is normal in the US is usually not normal in the rest of the world. Largely because we have so many lawyers. You want some? |
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The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
"Chris H" wrote in message news In message , tony cooper writes On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:46:46 +0100, Chris H wrote: In message , mikey4 writes On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:26:21 +0100, Chris H wrote: Yes I have watched Fox. Also I have seen the comments from CNN, BBC and others on Fox and their handling of stores. BFD, what does that prove? Every news outlet trailing in the ratings will bad mouth the others and those in front crow about their position. Maybe in the US but not the rest of the world BTW the rest of the world is bigger than the US... it is even bigger than Texas. What is normal in the US is usually not normal in the rest of the world. You may have seen or heard negative comments about Fox News programming, but were they about Fox News news segments or Fox News political commentary host's programs? Either. They are not the same. News segments have to do with the news, and I have not noticed any particular bias -- certainly not the sort of bias we get regulary from the mainstream media. Commentary shows of course give you both news and commentary about that news. The commentators range from Hannity (definitely on the right) to Colmes (definitely on the left). O'Reilly is center-right, but regularly has left-leaning or hard-left people on as guests. Sometimes I think O'Reilly bends over too far backwards to be "fair and balanced," but there you are. The latter are not news programming. That's why it is necessary to understand what a political commentator's role is. Something you clearly don't understand. I do understand but having seem FOX news and many others the same pictures with slightly different words can portray a very different scene. I recall during the floods in New Orleans there was a comment that there were gangs of black criminals looting and white vigilantes trying to keep the peace and get supplies for people. In other words gang warfare but the very subtle differences in the words Why "in other words gang warfare"? Why "white vigilantes"? Were they actually described as such, or is that just your interpretation? Those active in looting, robbing and attacking innocent people *were* mostly blacks. Why do you think New Orleans would be different from any other American city experiencing mob violence? It's always the same. You can see it in the video footage every time. Do you really think whites in the same numbers are doing the same things, and they only point the cameras at blacks doing those things? An Englishman unfortunate enough to be visiting New Orleans at that time, and with no way of getting out, told a reporter he was "afraid of the locals" (which locals do you suppose he was talking about?) and didn't know if he would get out of there alive. (I don't know whether he did or not.) portrayed one group as criminals and the other as upholding the law when in fact there was on the whole no difference between the two groups. What on earth makes you think that? Were you there? |
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The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
"Chris H" wrote in message ... In message , mikey4 writes On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:26:21 +0100, Chris H wrote: Yes I have watched Fox. Also I have seen the comments from CNN, BBC and others on Fox and their handling of stores. BFD, what does that prove? Every news outlet trailing in the ratings will bad mouth the others and those in front crow about their position. Maybe in the US but not the rest of the world BTW the rest of the world is bigger than the US... it is even bigger than Texas. What is normal in the US is usually not normal in the rest of the world. -- Well change horses in the middle of the stream there Chris. I have no idea if there are TV and radio rating in the UK from which those stations determine what they will charge for advertising, we in the US have that. *OH wait* maybe *all* the stations outside the USA are government owned, gee then rating wouldn't matter, neither would most of what they broadcast being government mouth pieces. Now see how crazy it all sounds? |
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The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
"Chris H" wrote in message news In message , tony cooper writes On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:46:46 +0100, Chris H wrote: scene. I recall during the floods in New Orleans there was a comment that there were gangs of black criminals looting and white vigilantes trying to keep the peace and get supplies for people. In other words gang warfare but the very subtle differences in the words portrayed one group as criminals and the other as upholding the law when in fact there was on the whole no difference between the two groups. However that is what the audience wanted to believe. I am assuming for a moment you are talking about Katrina? I watched a good deal of the coverage, at no time did I hear FOX or any other US news outlet say anything of the like. Can't wait for you to comment on the coverage of hurricane Ike. |
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The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
"Neil Harrington" wrote in message ... "Chris H" wrote in message ... In message , mikey4 writes On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:26:21 +0100, Chris H wrote: Yes I have watched Fox. Also I have seen the comments from CNN, BBC and others on Fox and their handling of stores. BFD, what does that prove? Every news outlet trailing in the ratings will bad mouth the others and those in front crow about their position. Maybe in the US but not the rest of the world BTW the rest of the world is bigger than the US... But we have more lawyers. it is even bigger than Texas. I'll bet Texas alone has more lawyers. What is normal in the US is usually not normal in the rest of the world. Largely because we have so many lawyers. You want some? LOL!! Neil |
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The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
"John A." wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:26:07 -0500, "mikey4" wrote: "Ray Fischer" wrote in message .. . tony cooper wrote: They have no credibility at all. They do have a political bias which clouds their view of the media they use for information to make up for their real lack of any first hand knowledge. Of course the political commentators on Fox News have a political bias. That's why O'Reilly et al are aired. You don't have an understanding of what a political commentator is. Political commentators aren't support to lie in order to sow hatred. That's supposed to be the jobs of propaganda ministers working for corrupt dictatorships. -- another rant from the sad little man So you're saying political commentators are supposed to lie and sow hatred? LOL !! Where did you get that idea? Is that what I wrote? No what I said was "another rant from the sad little man". |
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The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
mikey4 wrote:
"Ray Fischer" wrote in message ... tony cooper wrote: They have no credibility at all. They do have a political bias which clouds their view of the media they use for information to make up for their real lack of any first hand knowledge. Of course the political commentators on Fox News have a political bias. That's why O'Reilly et al are aired. You don't have an understanding of what a political commentator is. Political commentators aren't supposed to lie in order to sow hatred. That's supposed to be the jobs of propaganda ministers working for corrupt dictatorships. another rant from the sad little man Quit whining, child. We all know that you blindly believe everything lie you're fed, and we can see your petulance every time you're cherish icons are shown to be wrong or corrupt. -- Ray Fischer |
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The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
mikey4 wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:26:21 +0100, Chris H wrote: Yes I have watched Fox. Also I have seen the comments from CNN, BBC and others on Fox and their handling of stores. BFD, what does that prove? Every news outlet trailing in the ratings will More petulant whining from the child. -- Ray Fischer |
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The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
"Ray Fischer" wrote in message ... mikey4 wrote: "Ray Fischer" wrote in message .. . tony cooper wrote: They have no credibility at all. They do have a political bias which clouds their view of the media they use for information to make up for their real lack of any first hand knowledge. Of course the political commentators on Fox News have a political bias. That's why O'Reilly et al are aired. You don't have an understanding of what a political commentator is. Political commentators aren't supposed to lie in order to sow hatred. That's supposed to be the jobs of propaganda ministers working for corrupt dictatorships. another rant from the sad little man Quit whining, child. We all know that you blindly believe everything lie you're fed, and we can see your petulance every time you're cherish icons are shown to be wrong or corrupt. -- LOL, you've never shown them to be wrong. In fact sad little man you don't have the balls to do anything but run down other peoples thoughts and opinions. Why is that ray? Why in every NG you post you are always the same sad little man? |
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