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How many Nikon 24-120mm's have their been?
"RichA" wrote:
I figure at least four up to the new f4.0 unit. Never well-regarded, but the new one did allow Nikon to almost double the price from the last one from about $700 to $1200. It's good to see that in this Internet backwater, the standards of accuracy and research remain at their historical levels. I haven't been able to find more than three versions released publicly, but I look forward to learning about the other versions you know about. As for "never well-regarded," that's pretty much true, especially among people who never tried one. You may hear a different story from a real photojournalist, tourist, or other photographer who realizes a) the MTF and SQF of a missed shot are exactly zero, and b) you shouldn't try to pretend a Swiss Army Knife is the same thing as a K-Bar Army Knife. All lenses are engineering compromises, and cost plays a part in almost all of the tradeoffs. The f/3.5~5.6 versions traded off some optical quality for savings in size, weight, and yes, cost. The newer f/4 version chooses different tradeoffs at a different price. -- Mike Benveniste -- (Clarification Required) Its name is Public opinion. It is held in reverence. It settles everything. Some think it is the voice of God. -- Mark Twain |
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How many Nikon 24-120mm's have their been?
On 4/27/2011 9:30 AM, Rich wrote:
On Apr 27, 9:25 am, "Michael wrote: wrote: I figure at least four up to the new f4.0 unit. Never well-regarded, but the new one did allow Nikon to almost double the price from the last one from about $700 to $1200. I tried one on the D300. The 16-85 wipes the floor with it. REALLY? How well does the 16-85 work at 105mm?? Do a direct comparison. I own Canon, not Nikon, but I own a Canon 24-105 f/4L lens. Its a good lens, but at the top of its range the much cheaper 70-300 I own is much better. Over some of its range the extremely cheap (as in flimsy and low cost) 17-55 kit lens is equally good (but lacks IS). This in on crop frame. But neither 70-300 nor 17-55 is a good general lens. The 24-105 is. Doug McDonald |
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How many Nikon 24-120mm's have their been?
"Rich" wrote:
I tried one on the D300. The 16-85 wipes the floor with it. Please feel free to post comparison shots along with the reference to those other "special" versions of the 24-120mm I've never heard of. I'll wait with baited breath, assuming, of course, that I have sashimi for dinner. -- Mike Benveniste -- (Clarification Required) Its name is Public opinion. It is held in reverence. It settles everything. Some think it is the voice of God. -- Mark Twain |
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How many Nikon 24-120mm's have their been?
"Rich" wrote:
"Special?" In what sense? They had D, ED, ED VR and the new f4.0 across the board. The non-VR ED version would be "special," because if it ever existed it was never released publicly. Nor is it listed in the Archive section of the Nikon Imaging website. I eagerly await your evidence of same as well as your comparison photos. -- Mike Benveniste -- (Clarification Required) Its name is Public opinion. It is held in reverence. It settles everything. Some think it is the voice of God. -- Mark Twain |
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How many Nikon 24-120mm's have their been?
On 4/27/2011 3:31 PM, Michael Benveniste wrote:
wrote: "Special?" In what sense? They had D, ED, ED VR and the new f4.0 across the board. The non-VR ED version would be "special," because if it ever existed it was never released publicly. Nor is it listed in the Archive section of the Nikon Imaging website. I eagerly await your evidence of same as well as your comparison photos. My bated breath wait will smell baited, long before that happens. -- Peter |
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How many Nikon 24-120mm's have their been?
"RichA" wrote:
Keep waiting. The last time I proved a point doing that (the DOF test), the naysayers ran back under the rocks without a word. I'm shocked, simply shocked. Please feel free to emulate your naysayers. -- Mike Benveniste -- (Clarification Required) Its name is Public opinion. It is held in reverence. It settles everything. Some think it is the voice of God. -- Mark Twain |
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How many Nikon 24-120mm's have their been?
On 4/28/2011 4:54 PM, RichA wrote:
I'm not sure what it is that you want to see. I have access (currently) to the D and the VR ED version, but not the f4.0 version. That makes three. You claimed there were four versions. I want to see evidence of the non-VR ED version you claimed existed. Or is it simply a matter that you lose count once you get past two? You also claimed "I tried one on the D300. The 16-85 wipes the floor with it," which out saying which version "one" or "it" was. I asked for _your_ comparison, not a "pick-and-choose" rehash of some other source of your choosing. I wanted to see how you managed to do an "apples-to-apples" comparison of lenses which covered both different focal lengths and image circles. Doug asked you for the same thing. What was (and is) so hard to understand about that? -- Mike Benveniste -- (Clarification Required) You don't have to sort of enhance reality. There is nothing stranger than truth. -- Annie Leibovitz |
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