Digital photo storage while on safari

Tim Smith wrote:
On 2004-06-26, Burt Johnson wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with either of these solutions? Or
any other? What do you recommend for a lengthy trip where unloading
to the computer daily is not feasible (and we don't want to buy 20
CF's either...)

How about CD? Google for RoadStor or Sony Photo Vault. These are
stand-alone CD burners that burn to CD-R (RoadStor) or mini-CD-R
(Photo Vault).


These write to CD, read DVD, battery or ac convertor operated:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/RDS/RDS.HTM

Review of the same item with a different name:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_...onics_mfr.html

I've had one for a few months. It works. My only wishes a it should
be
a little smaller and lighter; should fit in the very nice bag (supplied)
without removing the external battery. Barring that, no complaints. I
got mine from Addonics, two days turnaround from online order to front
doorstep. Right at $300 with an extra battery.

Tim Smith wrote:
On 2004-06-26, Burt Johnson wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with either of these solutions? Or
any other? What do you recommend for a lengthy trip where unloading
to the computer daily is not feasible (and we don't want to buy 20
CF's either...)

How about CD? Google for RoadStor or Sony Photo Vault. These are
stand-alone CD burners that burn to CD-R (RoadStor) or mini-CD-R
(Photo Vault).


These write to CD, read DVD, battery or ac convertor operated:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/RDS/RDS.HTM

Review of the same item with a different name:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_...onics_mfr.html

I've had one for a few months. It works. My only wishes a it should
be
a little smaller and lighter; should fit in the very nice bag (supplied)
without removing the external battery. Barring that, no complaints. I
got mine from Addonics, two days turnaround from online order to front
doorstep. Right at $300 with an extra battery.

On 18 Jul 2004 13:32:35 -0700, (Mike Henley) wrote:

"Mark B." wrote in message ...
"David J Taylor" wrote in
message ...

There seems to be an untapped market for renting CF cards for events such
as this!

Cheers,
David



That's a pretty good idea, actually. But I wonder what happens the first
time that, inevitably, someone loses images on the card. I guess you'd have
to have insurance for the random idiot who claims they lost a prize-winning
photo on one of your rented cards.

Mark

All you need is a one-sentence disclaimer. Doesn't get any simpler than that.

Disclaimers sound good, but don't always work.
You know that one on the ticket you get when you park your car that
says they aren't responsible for anything that happens to your car
while parked there? Useless.

A warranty of merchantability may well void any one sentence
disclaimer for a rented memory card.
I don't even dream of being a lawyer, but having worked on the
backside of the counter, my experience says the customer has to
demonstrate that he understands any limits on liability. That usually
means a signature (and often a checkmark) specifically covering both
the disclaimer, and the fact that the customer read and understands
the disclaimer.
Such has served me well in a few cases where the customer claimed he
didn't understand the risks of having my shop do what the customer
wanted done.

And this isn't difficult to do.

Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"

On 18 Jul 2004 13:32:35 -0700, (Mike Henley) wrote:

"Mark B." wrote in message ...
"David J Taylor" wrote in
message ...

There seems to be an untapped market for renting CF cards for events such
as this!

Cheers,
David



That's a pretty good idea, actually. But I wonder what happens the first
time that, inevitably, someone loses images on the card. I guess you'd have
to have insurance for the random idiot who claims they lost a prize-winning
photo on one of your rented cards.

Mark

All you need is a one-sentence disclaimer. Doesn't get any simpler than that.

Disclaimers sound good, but don't always work.
You know that one on the ticket you get when you park your car that
says they aren't responsible for anything that happens to your car
while parked there? Useless.

A warranty of merchantability may well void any one sentence
disclaimer for a rented memory card.
I don't even dream of being a lawyer, but having worked on the
backside of the counter, my experience says the customer has to
demonstrate that he understands any limits on liability. That usually
means a signature (and often a checkmark) specifically covering both
the disclaimer, and the fact that the customer read and understands
the disclaimer.
Such has served me well in a few cases where the customer claimed he
didn't understand the risks of having my shop do what the customer
wanted done.

And this isn't difficult to do.

Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"

Disclaimers sound good, but don't always work.
You know that one on the ticket you get when you park your car that
says they aren't responsible for anything that happens to your car
while parked there? Useless.

A warranty of merchantability may well void any one sentence
disclaimer for a rented memory card.
I don't even dream of being a lawyer, but having worked on the
backside of the counter, my experience says the customer has to
demonstrate that he understands any limits on liability. That usually
means a signature (and often a checkmark) specifically covering both
the disclaimer, and the fact that the customer read and understands
the disclaimer.
Such has served me well in a few cases where the customer claimed he
didn't understand the risks of having my shop do what the customer
wanted done.

And this isn't difficult to do.

Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"


Heh, then a customer-signed disclaimer.

On 20 Jul 2004 01:00:55 GMT, (Sabineellen) wrote:


Disclaimers sound good, but don't always work.
You know that one on the ticket you get when you park your car that
says they aren't responsible for anything that happens to your car
while parked there? Useless.

A warranty of merchantability may well void any one sentence
disclaimer for a rented memory card.
I don't even dream of being a lawyer, but having worked on the
backside of the counter, my experience says the customer has to
demonstrate that he understands any limits on liability. That usually
means a signature (and often a checkmark) specifically covering both
the disclaimer, and the fact that the customer read and understands
the disclaimer.
Such has served me well in a few cases where the customer claimed he
didn't understand the risks of having my shop do what the customer
wanted done.

And this isn't difficult to do.

Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"


Heh, then a customer-signed disclaimer.

If you want to see how it's done well, buy property from an honest
realty agent in Florida; when we did, there were several pages of
statements that required a check *and* initials by each one; they
covered the salient points of the contract, and evidenced several
things: that we were told what the points meant, that we *understood*
what the points meant, and that we signified that the preceding was
true.
In my shop, I wasn't quite so detailed, but I did write that the
customer wanted certain work done (work was specified), and that the
customer understood that the work was to be done without any warranty
expressed or implied that the work would solve any problem the
customer had with the vehicle in question. I was sued twice over work
the customer wanted done despite my telling him/her that the work
requested would in all likelyhood not solve anything; in both cases,
the suits were dismissed because it had been made clear that he work
was done against recommendation of the mechanic, and espressly without
any warranty.

Interestingly, I also worked front desk at a construction equipment
rental yard, and such disclaimers were a matter of course, and held up
in court regularly.

It's not really difficult to make such a disclaimer stick, but it does
take a little more than a simple printed disclaimer; the more it can
be demonstrated that the customer understands the disclaimer, the more
likely it is to stick.

I wouldn't rent a CF card, myself. :-)

Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"

On 20 Jul 2004 01:00:55 GMT, (Sabineellen) wrote:


Disclaimers sound good, but don't always work.
You know that one on the ticket you get when you park your car that
says they aren't responsible for anything that happens to your car
while parked there? Useless.

A warranty of merchantability may well void any one sentence
disclaimer for a rented memory card.
I don't even dream of being a lawyer, but having worked on the
backside of the counter, my experience says the customer has to
demonstrate that he understands any limits on liability. That usually
means a signature (and often a checkmark) specifically covering both
the disclaimer, and the fact that the customer read and understands
the disclaimer.
Such has served me well in a few cases where the customer claimed he
didn't understand the risks of having my shop do what the customer
wanted done.

And this isn't difficult to do.

Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"


Heh, then a customer-signed disclaimer.

If you want to see how it's done well, buy property from an honest
realty agent in Florida; when we did, there were several pages of
statements that required a check *and* initials by each one; they
covered the salient points of the contract, and evidenced several
things: that we were told what the points meant, that we *understood*
what the points meant, and that we signified that the preceding was
true.
In my shop, I wasn't quite so detailed, but I did write that the
customer wanted certain work done (work was specified), and that the
customer understood that the work was to be done without any warranty
expressed or implied that the work would solve any problem the
customer had with the vehicle in question. I was sued twice over work
the customer wanted done despite my telling him/her that the work
requested would in all likelyhood not solve anything; in both cases,
the suits were dismissed because it had been made clear that he work
was done against recommendation of the mechanic, and espressly without
any warranty.

Interestingly, I also worked front desk at a construction equipment
rental yard, and such disclaimers were a matter of course, and held up
in court regularly.

It's not really difficult to make such a disclaimer stick, but it does
take a little more than a simple printed disclaimer; the more it can
be demonstrated that the customer understands the disclaimer, the more
likely it is to stick.

I wouldn't rent a CF card, myself. :-)

Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"