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"J.S.Pitanga" writes:
[Bruce Murphy:]I thought the zlr group was a ridiculous idea, but I now see the benefits in confining the users of them to this little ghetto. Even the point and shoot people are probably glad to see the point-and-shoot-with-pretensions (ie ZLR) people gone. Many dSLR users also have one or more EVFs for those occasions requiring more portability and less performance. What do you base this on? Fond hope? Recall that I'm speaking of the people who demand the term ZLR, not people who happen to use a digital camera that doesn't fit into the SLR category (whatever that is) Many point-and-shoot photographers also use EVFs because of their usually longer zooms. The belief that people are classified according to the gear they have is the mark of the gear imbecile. As I've pointed out, the so-called ZLRs and digital point and shoots are indistinguishable. What distinguishes the users is whether they're insecure enough to need to invent terms like ZLR so they can pretend to be better than other people using point and shoot digital cameras. Everyone wins. Even you have just won an adequate description. I wonder what this is supposed to mean. B |
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Per Nordenberg wrote:
[] Ok. If I have understood you correctly then my Olympus C-2100 UZ (fixed zoom lens, electronic view finder) can be discussed here in this group, but not the more sophisticated Olympus E-10 and E-20 (in spite of the fact that they have a fixed zoom lens and a true TTL viewfinder and thus should be referred to as 'ZLR')?? In which group should the last-mentioned cameras be discussed then? Per, as they do not have interchangeable lenses, they belong in this group. Cheers, David |
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[David, referring to Olympus E-10 and E-20:]
Per, as they do not have interchangeable lenses, they belong in this group. Those Olympus are SLRs and thus could not belong in a newsgroup dealing with "SLR-like" cameras, as stated in the charter. A SLR is not "SLR-like", it is SLR, period. The best, Julio. |
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"J.S.Pitanga" wrote in message
news What he writes is a whole lot of meaningless crap..... If all you people stopped responding to his infantile rantings he just might get bored and go and annoy somebody else. I like perhaps most of the posters here don't really care what the group is called as long as it is where I can come to discuss the sort of camera I have and sometimes get (or give) some help. Kind regards Leo |
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[J.S.Pitanga:]
[Leo R.:] What he writes is a whole lot of meaningless crap..... Funny enough, you cannot help reading and answering to what you call "crap" - the definite mark of the cyber-imbecile. If all you people stopped responding to his infantile rantings he just might get bored and go and annoy somebody else. Don't worry: since like you there are many cyber-imbeciles such as Larry and Bill Again annoying themselves on this newsgroup, it is virtually impossible than anyone intelligent gets bored here. I like perhaps most of the posters here don't really care what the group is called as long as it is where I can come to discuss the sort of camera I have and sometimes get (or give) some help. Rather, here is a place where you can come and show how much of a cyber-imbecile you are, answering to posts you say should be ignored. Besides, since no one till now could ever define the "sort of camera" supposedly to be discussed on this group, only an idiot like you would ever consider discussing a subject he cannot define. The best, Julio. |
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J.S.Pitanga wrote:
[WD me:] I've never come across the term Zlr. This term (standing for "Zoom Lens Reflex") is how a film SLR with a not-interchangeable zoom lens are traditionally called. An example is the Olympus IS-200. BTW, the olympus IS-3 had a 5x Zoom (35-180mm ED), and by the availability of 12x zoom digitals, 5x seems only moderatly telephoto. If only olympus made a digital version of the IS-3.. the 'form factor' and design (although not compact) would make it an excellent digital. It's auxillary lenses are also usable on many digital cameras with a filter thread. People also tend to call these cameras 'hybrid' cameras.. what would the digital hybrid be? |
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jose writes:
J.S.Pitanga wrote: [WD me:] I've never come across the term Zlr. This term (standing for "Zoom Lens Reflex") is how a film SLR with a not-interchangeable zoom lens are traditionally called. An example is the Olympus IS-200. BTW, the olympus IS-3 had a 5x Zoom (35-180mm ED), and by the availability of 12x zoom digitals, 5x seems only moderatly telephoto. If only olympus made a digital version of the IS-3.. the 'form factor' and design (although not compact) would make it an excellent digital. It's auxillary lenses are also usable on many digital cameras with a filter thread. From the IS-3 I once saw forlorn in a Target, it pretty much was the same form factor as my C-2100UZ. The aux. lenses if memory serves were the B-macro, B28, and B300. Certainly, the B300 and B-macro were classic lenses. -- Michael Meissner email: http://www.the-meissners.org |
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"jose" skrev i meddelandet ... BTW, the olympus IS-3 had a 5x Zoom (35-180mm ED), and by the availability of 12x zoom digitals, 5x seems only moderatly telephoto. If only olympus made a digital version of the IS-3.. the 'form factor' and design (although not compact) would make it an excellent digital. It's auxillary lenses are also usable on many digital cameras with a filter thread. Usable? If you're talking about the B-300 1.7X auxiliary lens it's the best there is. I would also very much want to see a digital version of the iS-3000. Olympus doesn't want to talk about connections between their iS series and their digital cameras, but they exist. The big FL-40 digital accessory flash for instance is nothing but a modified G-40 flash from the iS series. Super FP flash function, continuous AF and predictive AF were all first introduced on the iS series. Regards, Per Nordenberg -- One of the problems at Russian airshows is that the world and his wife wants to be photographed in front of the exhibits, so you have to be very patient ! -unknown |
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"Leo R." wrote in
: What he writes is a whole lot of meaningless crap..... No - it is actually true. He is not the most diplomatic person. But he is right. If all you people stopped responding to his infantile rantings he just might get bored and go and annoy somebody else. Soooo .... why did you respond? I like perhaps most of the posters here don't really care what the group is called as long as it is where I can come to discuss the sort of camera I have and sometimes get (or give) some help. OK - so lets call the group rec.cycling.cross-country. The name does not matter - so - why not? BTW - you can discuss your camera in rec.photo.digital. /Roland |
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