Hole punch cloud

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:52:43 -0800 (PST), Nervous Nick
wrote:

Nothing technical or anything.

I stopped my car in traffic a few days ago and got out to take a
snapshot of this bizarre cloud formation just before sunset. I
thought some here might like it. The composition could be better, but
it was a grab shot that I was lucky to get at all. I tweaked the
curves in PS a bit and cropped it minimally, and sized it for the web.

http://www.kriho.com/phenom/cloud_hole.jpg

AFAIK it's not really known what causes these types of formations.

They can be caused by any minor updraft that is drier than the air layer in
which the alto-cumulous clouds formed. Forming a pocket of air too dry to
condense into clouds. Even a small elevation rise of the ground of that
same diameter might be enough to push a lower layer of drier air into the
moister higher layer as it passes underneath it in a slow laminar flow.
Check any topographic maps to see if the land rises beneath the clouds
where you photographed that formation.

When the opposite effect happens it's called a "lenticular cloud".
Lenticular = lens-shaped. A bump/bubble of warmer more moist layer of air
rises up into a colder layer and condenses into crisply defined dense
circular shapes, relatively smaller in diameter than most other clouds in
the area. The origin of many a UFO report. Some of them are quite
astounding looking, having several stacked disks of varying graduated
sizes. Especially interesting looking when lit by a setting or rising sun,
the times of day when they are more commonly seen, when prevailing winds
tend to die down enough to allow them to form. (Also the reason hot-air
balloon launches are generally scheduled for those times of day.)
Lenticular clouds are also more common over mountainous and hilly terrain
where the slow laminar air-flows can be pushed up into colder air layers
directly above the higher areas of land.

Over the years I have a photographed a collection of lenticular clouds
myself. One of my more favorite photos is of about 5 stacked and
graduated-in-size disks. Taken around noon while I was out in a large open
area of water in the 10,000 Islands area of the Everglades while kayaking.
I was surprised to see one that intricately formed at that time of day and
especially over such flat land and waters. The other surprising thing was
there were very few other clouds in the sky and all very distant. I've
never seen one like it before nor since. If something like that had formed
over any populated area then people calling into news-centers to report a
giant UFO invasion would have been guaranteed.

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:51:38 -0800 (PST), Nervous Nick
wrote:

On Feb 10, 8:32*pm, NameHere wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:52:43 -0800 (PST), Nervous Nick

wrote:
Nothing technical or anything.

I stopped my car in traffic a few days ago and got out to take a
snapshot of this bizarre cloud formation just before sunset. *I
thought some here might like it. *The composition could be better, but
it was a grab shot that I was lucky to get at all. *I tweaked the
curves in PS a bit and cropped it minimally, and sized it for the web.

http://www.kriho.com/phenom/cloud_hole.jpg

AFAIK it's not really known what causes these types of formations.

They can be caused by any minor updraft that is drier than the air layer in
which the alto-cumulous clouds formed. Forming a pocket of air too *dry to
condense into clouds. Even a small elevation rise of the ground of that
same diameter might be enough to push a lower layer of drier air into the
moister higher layer as it passes underneath it in a slow laminar flow.
Check any topographic maps to see if the land rises beneath the clouds
where you photographed that formation.

When the opposite effect happens it's called a "lenticular cloud".
Lenticular = lens-shaped. A bump/bubble of warmer more moist layer of air
rises up into a colder layer and condenses into crisply defined dense
circular shapes, relatively smaller in diameter than most other clouds in
the area. The origin of many a UFO report. Some of them are quite
astounding looking, having several stacked disks of varying graduated
sizes. Especially interesting looking when lit by a setting or rising sun,
the times of day when they are more commonly seen, when prevailing winds
tend to die down enough to allow them to form. (Also the reason hot-air
balloon launches are generally scheduled for those times of day.)
Lenticular clouds are also more common over mountainous and hilly terrain
where the slow laminar air-flows can be pushed up into colder air layers
directly above the higher areas of land.

Over the years I have a photographed a collection of lenticular clouds
myself. One of my more favorite photos is of about 5 stacked and
graduated-in-size disks. Taken around noon while I was out in a large open
area of water in the 10,000 Islands area of the Everglades while kayaking.
I was surprised to see one that intricately formed at that time of day and
especially over such flat land and waters. The other surprising thing was
there were very few other clouds in the sky and all very distant. I've
never seen one like it before nor since. If something like that had formed
over any populated area then people calling into news-centers to report a
giant UFO invasion would have been guaranteed.

Wow, thanks for the info. Any links to your photos? I'd esp. like to
see the stacked lenticulars.

Nope. Sorry, but my photography is not for public net-consumption these
days. Only on rare occasions will I post a photo now, to make some troll
look like a fool. But that's all. I took down all my photography sites
years ago. I found that posting my photography to the net is mainly just
wasting my talents on people who don't deserve to benefit from them. To
hold those responsible in this immediate venue for this decision you can
thank all the resident-trolls in this newsgroup for not getting to see them
today. Maybe they can tell you they're sorry. (Which they most definitely
are.....sorry excuses for humans.)

On the upside, you can use Google and type in: "lenticular cloud" OR
"lenticular clouds" -- just as typed, including the quotes and the OR in
caps. There are many somewhat interesting images of them on the net.

On 2/10/10 8:32 PM, in article ,
"NameHere" wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:52:43 -0800 (PST), Nervous Nick
wrote:

Nothing technical or anything.

I stopped my car in traffic a few days ago and got out to take a
snapshot of this bizarre cloud formation just before sunset. I
thought some here might like it. The composition could be better, but
it was a grab shot that I was lucky to get at all. I tweaked the
curves in PS a bit and cropped it minimally, and sized it for the web.

http://www.kriho.com/phenom/cloud_hole.jpg

AFAIK it's not really known what causes these types of formations.

They can be caused by any minor updraft that is drier than the air layer in
which the alto-cumulous clouds formed. Forming a pocket of air too dry to
condense into clouds. Even a small elevation rise of the ground of that
same diameter might be enough to push a lower layer of drier air into the
moister higher layer as it passes underneath it in a slow laminar flow.
Check any topographic maps to see if the land rises beneath the clouds
where you photographed that formation.

When the opposite effect happens it's called a "lenticular cloud".
Lenticular = lens-shaped. A bump/bubble of warmer more moist layer of air
rises up into a colder layer and condenses into crisply defined dense
circular shapes, relatively smaller in diameter than most other clouds in
the area. The origin of many a UFO report. Some of them are quite
astounding looking, having several stacked disks of varying graduated
sizes. Especially interesting looking when lit by a setting or rising sun,
the times of day when they are more commonly seen, when prevailing winds
tend to die down enough to allow them to form. (Also the reason hot-air
balloon launches are generally scheduled for those times of day.)
Lenticular clouds are also more common over mountainous and hilly terrain
where the slow laminar air-flows can be pushed up into colder air layers
directly above the higher areas of land.

Over the years I have a photographed a collection of lenticular clouds
myself. One of my more favorite photos is of about 5 stacked and
graduated-in-size disks. Taken around noon while I was out in a large open
area of water in the 10,000 Islands area of the Everglades while kayaking.
I was surprised to see one that intricately formed at that time of day and
especially over such flat land and waters. The other surprising thing was
there were very few other clouds in the sky and all very distant. I've
never seen one like it before nor since. If something like that had formed
over any populated area then people calling into news-centers to report a
giant UFO invasion would have been guaranteed.

I thought "Mister Wizard" passed awhile back. Are you the cloned spawn?

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:21:11 -0800 (PST), DanP
wrote:

On Feb 11, 5:06*pm, NameHere wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:13:49 -0800 (PST), DanP
wrote:

On Feb 11, 2:51*am, Nervous Nick wrote:
Wow, thanks for the info. *Any links to your photos? *I'd esp. like to
see the stacked lenticulars.

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This is one he posted in Decemberhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/3060429818_b01dbdb8ac_o.jpg

DanP

If only that were true you ****ingly stupid asswipe of a troll.

That was an example posted by someone else when they were experimenting
stacking 2 teleconverters on a P&S camera.

You feel embarassed about it so you lie.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...55cbb?lnk=gst&

DanP

Embarrassed? Hell, I'd be proud to be able to take any shot handheld with
that focal-length. Where's your hand-held image taken with a DSLR at that
lens focal-length and aperture? You're not very experienced with cameras
and lenses are you. Of course not, you're nothing but a ****ingly useless
pretend-photographer DSLR-Troll. The even more important part, nowhere in
that post you link to do I claim that I ever took that photo. Or didn't you
even read it? Of course you didn't. Even if you did you couldn't comprehend
it. I suggest you now try to search out who posted that photo first
somewhere on the net and left it up as an example for anyone to refer to,
with their full explanation of how they accomplished it. It was a memorable
example of the capabilities of P&S cameras so I remembered it.

Get busy, you useless **** of a DSLR-Troll!

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:39:32 -0800 (PST), DanP
wrote:

On Feb 11, 6:49*pm, NameHere wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:21:11 -0800 (PST), DanP
wrote:





On Feb 11, 5:06*pm, NameHere wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:13:49 -0800 (PST), DanP
wrote:

On Feb 11, 2:51*am, Nervous Nick wrote:
Wow, thanks for the info. *Any links to your photos? *I'd esp. like to
see the stacked lenticulars.

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YOP...- Hide quoted text -

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This is one he posted in Decemberhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/3060429818_b01dbdb8ac_o.jpg

DanP

If only that were true you ****ingly stupid asswipe of a troll.

That was an example posted by someone else when they were experimenting
stacking 2 teleconverters on a P&S camera.

You feel embarassed about it so you lie.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p..._thread/thread...

DanP

Embarrassed? Hell, I'd be proud to be able to take any shot handheld with
that focal-length. Where's your hand-held image taken with a DSLR at that
lens focal-length and aperture? You're not very experienced with cameras
and lenses are you. Of course not, you're nothing but a ****ingly useless
pretend-photographer DSLR-Troll. The even more important part, nowhere in
that post you link to do I claim that I ever took that photo. Or didn't you
even read it? Of course you didn't. Even if you did you couldn't comprehend
it. I suggest you now try to search out who posted that photo first
somewhere on the net and left it up as an example for anyone to refer to,
with their full explanation of how they accomplished it. It was a memorable
example of the capabilities of P&S cameras so I remembered it.

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Get a life, you waste too much time to live one.

DanP

I successfully retired at the age of 25 with my skills and talents. I can
do anything I damn well please for a very long time now.

You've not found the original uploader of that photo yet? I figured as
much. You pathetically useless ****ing troll and liar.

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:44:27 -0800 (PST), BD wrote:


I successfully retired at the age of 25 with my skills and talents. I can
do anything I damn well please for a very long time now.

Mm. And so - you sit there, day after day, masturbating in your own
feces, and trolling newsgroups. That's a great success story.

It's winter, you useless ****wad. With about 4 ft. of snow on the ground
where I'm at. I don't have any photography treks planned for this year. But
I have been busy compiling and editing new topographic maps for my GPS
units. None of the GPS makers sell the ones I'll be needing so I have to
make my own from whatever available sources I can find.

And your excuse? You completely useless ****ing piece of **** as an excuse
for a human.

In article , NameHere wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:44:27 -0800 (PST), BD wrote:


I successfully retired at the age of 25 with my skills and talents. I can
do anything I damn well please for a very long time now.

Mm. And so - you sit there, day after day, masturbating in your own
feces, and trolling newsgroups. That's a great success story.

It's winter, you useless ****wad. With about 4 ft. of snow on the ground
where I'm at. I don't have any photography treks planned for this year. But
I have been busy compiling and editing new topographic maps for my GPS
units. None of the GPS makers sell the ones I'll be needing so I have to
make my own from whatever available sources I can find.

And your excuse? You completely useless ****ing piece of **** as an excuse
for a human.

You guys back east crack me up, you get 3 feet of snow and the world is at an
end but here in Utah , we get that much in one night and we grab our skis!!

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:07:51 -0800 (PST), Twibil
wrote:

On Feb 11, 3:44*pm, BD wrote:
I successfully retired at the age of 25 with my skills and talents. I can
do anything I damn well please for a very long time now.

Mm. And so - you sit there, day after day, masturbating in your own
feces, and trolling newsgroups. *That's a great success story.

Oh heck, I'm sure we can *all* name scads of successful people who
choose to spend their time trolling Newgroups in a lame effort to
convince someone, heck, *any*one, of their supposed "skills and
talents".

Let's all join in now and list their names, shall
we?........................ (insert sounds of crickets and wind
blowing across trackless desert
sands).................................hullo?.... .....................anyone
there?....................................

Yet the ONLY ones who are so desperately trolling off-topic for my
attention in this thread that you all hijacked, about unusual cloud
formations (remember? that's what this thread was about), are you, BD,
DanP, and GMAN. All just lousy pathetic useless ****ing trolls posting from
google accounts. You trolls, or is it just "troll", sure do love projecting
your own problems and failings on everyone in life.

On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:16:14 GMT, (GMAN)
wrote:

In article , NameHere wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:44:27 -0800 (PST), BD wrote:


I successfully retired at the age of 25 with my skills and talents. I can
do anything I damn well please for a very long time now.

Mm. And so - you sit there, day after day, masturbating in your own
feces, and trolling newsgroups. That's a great success story.

It's winter, you useless ****wad. With about 4 ft. of snow on the ground
where I'm at. I don't have any photography treks planned for this year. But
I have been busy compiling and editing new topographic maps for my GPS
units. None of the GPS makers sell the ones I'll be needing so I have to
make my own from whatever available sources I can find.

And your excuse? You completely useless ****ing piece of **** as an excuse
for a human.

You guys back east crack me up, you get 3 feet of snow and the world is at an
end but here in Utah , we get that much in one night and we grab our skis!!

Who said I was on the east coast? This has been a mild winter here. It only
got down to -20 for two weeks and only 4 ft. of accumulation. I just don't
have any incentive to play out in the snow this year. I'm busy on other
projects. But I have to agree about the wusses that live on the east coast.

Now kindly return back to the original topic, about photography of unusual
cloud formations. Or are you just another pathetically useless ****ing
troll too? No need to answer that. I see how much you've contributed to
other photography topics.

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:41:58 -0800 (PST), BD wrote:


Yet the ONLY ones who are so desperately trolling off-topic for my
attention in this thread that you all hijacked, about unusual cloud
formations (remember? that's what this thread was about), are you, BD,
DanP, and GMAN. All just lousy pathetic useless ****ing trolls posting from
google accounts. You trolls, or is it just "troll", sure do love projecting
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Interesting point. How exactly does one distinguish between someone
who's a troll in the context of a discussion forum, and someone who's
just a prick in every aspect of his life?

Dunno!

Easy, do you know how to use a mirror? You'll find that you are both.