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DSLR sales. Only two ways they can go
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 19:58:09 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote: Either they level off, somewhere around 50% of their sales in 2010 or less, or in three years, DSLR sales will be almost non-existent. It depends. If the mfr's can march on with technical improvements, and the advantage of DSLR's over anything else remains sizable enough, maybe not. If this sounds alarmist, check out CD or vinyl sales from their highest sales year till now. The drop in sales isn't some minor economic blip, it's an evolution of the market. Not such a great analogy. Cameras are used as tools with a purpose, and some purposes require greater quality than others. CD's have one purpose, listening to music. Another problem is that lots of folks - maybe most - clearly don't care at all about sound quality. Some of the codecs & specs that are used are simply not very good. Oddly enough, vinyl is having its own upward blip, because some people think it sounds better. I think that's a good development, even if those people are crazy... |
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DSLR sales. Only two ways they can go
In article , Bill W
wrote: If this sounds alarmist, check out CD or vinyl sales from their highest sales year till now. The drop in sales isn't some minor economic blip, it's an evolution of the market. Not such a great analogy. Cameras are used as tools with a purpose, and some purposes require greater quality than others. CD's have one purpose, listening to music. Another problem is that lots of folks - maybe most - clearly don't care at all about sound quality. Some of the codecs & specs that are used are simply not very good. Oddly enough, vinyl is having its own upward blip, because some people think it sounds better. I think that's a good development, even if those people are crazy... they're hipsters who think it's cool. |
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DSLR sales. Only two ways they can go
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 00:56:07 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: If this sounds alarmist, check out CD or vinyl sales from their highest sales year till now. The drop in sales isn't some minor economic blip, it's an evolution of the market. Not such a great analogy. Cameras are used as tools with a purpose, and some purposes require greater quality than others. CD's have one purpose, listening to music. Another problem is that lots of folks - maybe most - clearly don't care at all about sound quality. Some of the codecs & specs that are used are simply not very good. Oddly enough, vinyl is having its own upward blip, because some people think it sounds better. I think that's a good development, even if those people are crazy... they're hipsters who think it's cool. They also think hiss = warmth. Part of the problem, or maybe the whole problem, became crystal clear to me many years ago. I bought a Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs album, and the sound was amazing. That was before CD's came out, and when the CD of that album came out, I couldn't wait to listen to it. I assumed it would be beyond belief. Well, it sucked. Flat, lifeless, everything you always hear from the vinyl nuts. But it was representative of the overall problem. It was simply badly done. Very badly done. It really was hit or miss back then. Another thing many people just don't understand is that if you listen to one of those really great sounding vinyl LP's from years ago on high end equipment, you will soon realize that the sound on that LP is total crap, and it was simply being "healed" by a crappy sound system that masked all of the flaws. |
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DSLR sales. Only two ways they can go
In article , Bill W
wrote: Not such a great analogy. Cameras are used as tools with a purpose, and some purposes require greater quality than others. CD's have one purpose, listening to music. Another problem is that lots of folks - maybe most - clearly don't care at all about sound quality. Some of the codecs & specs that are used are simply not very good. Oddly enough, vinyl is having its own upward blip, because some people think it sounds better. I think that's a good development, even if those people are crazy... they're hipsters who think it's cool. They also think hiss = warmth. and distortion. Part of the problem, or maybe the whole problem, became crystal clear to me many years ago. I bought a Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs album, and the sound was amazing. i have a couple of those. That was before CD's came out, and when the CD of that album came out, I couldn't wait to listen to it. I assumed it would be beyond belief. Well, it sucked. Flat, lifeless, everything you always hear from the vinyl nuts. But it was representative of the overall problem. It was simply badly done. Very badly done. It really was hit or miss back then. early cds were poorly mastered, which has nothing to do with being digital. cds are much better than vinyl ever could dream of. Another thing many people just don't understand is that if you listen to one of those really great sounding vinyl LP's from years ago on high end equipment, you will soon realize that the sound on that LP is total crap, and it was simply being "healed" by a crappy sound system that masked all of the flaws. vinyl has always been total crap. it's that there wasn't anything better until cds came along. it's a tiny needle wiggling in a groove. it's horribly primitive. |
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DSLR sales. Only two ways they can go
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 00:56:07 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: If this sounds alarmist, check out CD or vinyl sales from their highest sales year till now. The drop in sales isn't some minor economic blip, it's an evolution of the market. Not such a great analogy. Cameras are used as tools with a purpose, and some purposes require greater quality than others. CD's have one purpose, listening to music. Another problem is that lots of folks - maybe most - clearly don't care at all about sound quality. Some of the codecs & specs that are used are simply not very good. Oddly enough, vinyl is having its own upward blip, because some people think it sounds better. I think that's a good development, even if those people are crazy... they're hipsters who think it's cool. Me ahipster? 81 years old and loaded with 17th-18th century music? You gotta be joking. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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DSLR sales. Only two ways they can go
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: If this sounds alarmist, check out CD or vinyl sales from their highest sales year till now. The drop in sales isn't some minor economic blip, it's an evolution of the market. Not such a great analogy. Cameras are used as tools with a purpose, and some purposes require greater quality than others. CD's have one purpose, listening to music. Another problem is that lots of folks - maybe most - clearly don't care at all about sound quality. Some of the codecs & specs that are used are simply not very good. Oddly enough, vinyl is having its own upward blip, because some people think it sounds better. I think that's a good development, even if those people are crazy... they're hipsters who think it's cool. Me ahipster? 81 years old and loaded with 17th-18th century music? You gotta be joking. nope. he said vinyl has seen an upward blip. did you buy your vinyl in the past couple of years, contributing to that blip? no, you didn't. you bought it a while ago, probably before there were cds. |
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DSLR sales. Only two ways they can go
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 23:31:28 -0700, Bill W
wrote: On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 00:56:07 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: If this sounds alarmist, check out CD or vinyl sales from their highest sales year till now. The drop in sales isn't some minor economic blip, it's an evolution of the market. Not such a great analogy. Cameras are used as tools with a purpose, and some purposes require greater quality than others. CD's have one purpose, listening to music. Another problem is that lots of folks - maybe most - clearly don't care at all about sound quality. Some of the codecs & specs that are used are simply not very good. Oddly enough, vinyl is having its own upward blip, because some people think it sounds better. I think that's a good development, even if those people are crazy... they're hipsters who think it's cool. They also think hiss = warmth. Part of the problem, or maybe the whole problem, became crystal clear to me many years ago. I bought a Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs album, and the sound was amazing. That was before CD's came out, and when the CD of that album came out, I couldn't wait to listen to it. I assumed it would be beyond belief. Well, it sucked. Flat, lifeless, everything you always hear from the vinyl nuts. But it was representative of the overall problem. It was simply badly done. Very badly done. It really was hit or miss back then. Another thing many people just don't understand is that if you listen to one of those really great sounding vinyl LP's from years ago on high end equipment, you will soon realize that the sound on that LP is total crap, and it was simply being "healed" by a crappy sound system that masked all of the flaws. There are two weak points in most systems. The first is the cartridge and associated bits and pieces. The second is most definitely the speakers. Amplifiers are reasonably easy to do. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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DSLR sales. Only two ways they can go
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: There are two weak points in most systems. The first is the cartridge and associated bits and pieces. The second is most definitely the speakers. Amplifiers are reasonably easy to do. cds eliminates the first one. the rest you can't eliminate. it's a bit hard to listen to music if you don't have speakers or an amplifier. |
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DSLR sales. Only two ways they can go
On 7/27/2015 5:42 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Bill W wrote: Not such a great analogy. Cameras are used as tools with a purpose, and some purposes require greater quality than others. CD's have one purpose, listening to music. Another problem is that lots of folks - maybe most - clearly don't care at all about sound quality. Some of the codecs & specs that are used are simply not very good. Oddly enough, vinyl is having its own upward blip, because some people think it sounds better. I think that's a good development, even if those people are crazy... they're hipsters who think it's cool. They also think hiss = warmth. and distortion. Part of the problem, or maybe the whole problem, became crystal clear to me many years ago. I bought a Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs album, and the sound was amazing. i have a couple of those. That was before CD's came out, and when the CD of that album came out, I couldn't wait to listen to it. I assumed it would be beyond belief. Well, it sucked. Flat, lifeless, everything you always hear from the vinyl nuts. But it was representative of the overall problem. It was simply badly done. Very badly done. It really was hit or miss back then. early cds were poorly mastered, which has nothing to do with being digital. cds are much better than vinyl ever could dream of. Another thing many people just don't understand is that if you listen to one of those really great sounding vinyl LP's from years ago on high end equipment, you will soon realize that the sound on that LP is total crap, and it was simply being "healed" by a crappy sound system that masked all of the flaws. vinyl has always been total crap. it's that there wasn't anything better until cds came along. it's a tiny needle wiggling in a groove. it's horribly primitive. So says the judgemental one, while not mentioning that lots of people like the sound of vinyl. While waiting at a light this morning, some A-hole was playing digital sounds with a booming bass, that my car was shaking, and the sound through closed windows, was drowning out the sound of my radio. -- PeterN |
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DSLR sales. Only two ways they can go
On 7/27/2015 6:00 AM, nospam wrote:
it's a bit hard to listen to music if you don't have speakers or an amplifier. Newsflash!! There is this brand new concept called: live performance. -- PeterN |
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