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On 10-03-03 13:11 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:
And this is from more than four years ago! Four years! Can you imagine that! Moreover, all his words spoken those four years ago sound very much like What I said is as true now as it was then. -- gmail originated posts are filtered due to spam. |
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... On 10-03-03 13:11 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: And this is from more than four years ago! Four years! Can you imagine that! Moreover, all his words spoken those four years ago sound very much like What I said is as true now as it was then. . In particular - "...there is nothing you will say to make me change my mind. " The true believer of the true faith has seen the light and is indeed once and forever the true believer! As the old poster from years gone by said: "I've already made up my mind. Don't bother me with facts." |
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On 10-03-03 15:48 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:
"Alan wrote in message ... On 10-03-03 13:11 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: And this is from more than four years ago! Four years! Can you imagine that! Moreover, all his words spoken those four years ago sound very much like What I said is as true now as it was then. . In particular - "...there is nothing you will say to make me change my mind." The true believer of the true faith has seen the light and is indeed once and forever the true believer! As the old poster from years gone by said: "I've already made up my mind. Don't bother me with facts." That wasn't me - put that brush away. I did say "show me an authoritative source that says the opposite of digital is analog, that film is an analog." So far a lot of comparisons or references to hobby sites. I'm done with you, you circle, you snip out relevant matter and you imply that I said things that I never would. Again: I don't care that you don't agree with me. -- gmail originated posts are filtered due to spam. |
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... On 10-03-03 15:48 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: "Alan wrote in message ... On 10-03-03 13:11 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: And this is from more than four years ago! Four years! Can you imagine that! Moreover, all his words spoken those four years ago sound very much like What I said is as true now as it was then. . In particular - "...there is nothing you will say to make me change my mind." The true believer of the true faith has seen the light and is indeed once and forever the true believer! As the old poster from years gone by said: "I've already made up my mind. Don't bother me with facts." That wasn't me - put that brush away. I did say "show me an authoritative source that says the opposite of digital is analog, that film is an analog." So far a lot of comparisons or references to hobby sites. I'm done with you, you circle, you snip out relevant matter and you imply that I said things that I never would. Again: I don't care that you don't agree with me. . ah yes...the true Believer doth spoke yet again. There is an old saying - "if the shoe fits..." as well as "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck..." to wit - "...there is nothing you will say to make me change my mind." Clearly and obviously true Believers need present no verifiable substantiation - references/links/citations - of what they say because they have seen the Light and Know the Truth! no more need be said. Alan Browne does no more than proclaim his faith over and over again with words, words, and nothing but words...with not a single, solitary, itsy bitsy shred of verifiable fact to back his belief. As the old poster from years gone by said: "I've already made up my mind. Don't bother me with facts." |
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... On 10-03-03 15:48 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: "Alan wrote in message ... On 10-03-03 13:11 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: And this is from more than four years ago! Four years! Can you imagine that! Moreover, all his words spoken those four years ago sound very much like What I said is as true now as it was then. . In particular - "...there is nothing you will say to make me change my mind." The true believer of the true faith has seen the light and is indeed once and forever the true believer! As the old poster from years gone by said: "I've already made up my mind. Don't bother me with facts." That wasn't me - put that brush away. I did say "show me an authoritative source that says the opposite of digital is analog, that film is an analog." So far a lot of comparisons or references to hobby sites. I'm done with you, you circle, you snip out relevant matter and you imply that I said things that I never would. Again: I don't care that you don't agree with me. . wups...almost forgot. Alan said "So far a lot of comparisons or references to hobby sites." OK, Alan...simple minded as I am, please for me...and the others here..cite the hobbies of each of the following sites that I referenced: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ http://www.synonym.com/antonym/ http://dictionary.reference.com/ which references The American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2002. Published by Houghton Mifflin. All rights reserved. http://foldoc.org/computing+dictionary and The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2007 http://www.wordwebonline.com/ http://words.bighugelabs.com/ http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/ which references Wordnet Dictionary http://wordnet.princeton.edu/ and http://poets.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin I, the unenlightened and the skeptic, look to you, Alan Browne - the Truly Enlightened One and the True Believer, to proclaim the hobbies of each and every one of these sites...one by one...unto us such that you can - and do - denigrate the antonyms of "digital" found within said sites. I await your pronouncement with much great anticipation and with even greater eagerness as to why each and every one of these sites - one by one - are deemed by you - the Truly Enlightened One and the True Believer - not to be "authoritative." |
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Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... On 10-03-03 15:48 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: "Alan wrote in message ... On 10-03-03 13:11 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: And this is from more than four years ago! Four years! Can you imagine that! Moreover, all his words spoken those four years ago sound very much like What I said is as true now as it was then. . In particular - "...there is nothing you will say to make me change my mind." The true believer of the true faith has seen the light and is indeed once and forever the true believer! As the old poster from years gone by said: "I've already made up my mind. Don't bother me with facts." That wasn't me - put that brush away. I did say "show me an authoritative source that says the opposite of digital is analog, that film is an analog." So far a lot of comparisons or references to hobby sites. I'm done with you, you circle, you snip out relevant matter and you imply that I said things that I never would. Again: I don't care that you don't agree with me. . wups...almost forgot. Alan said "So far a lot of comparisons or references to hobby sites." OK, Alan...simple minded as I am, please for me...and the others here..cite the hobbies of each of the following sites that I referenced: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ http://www.synonym.com/antonym/ http://dictionary.reference.com/ which references The American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2002. Published by Houghton Mifflin. All rights reserved. http://foldoc.org/computing+dictionary and The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2007 http://www.wordwebonline.com/ http://words.bighugelabs.com/ http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/ which references Wordnet Dictionary http://wordnet.princeton.edu/ and http://poets.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin I, the unenlightened and the skeptic, look to you, Alan Browne - the Truly Enlightened One and the True Believer, to proclaim the hobbies of each and every one of these sites...one by one...unto us such that you can - and do - denigrate the antonyms of "digital" found within said sites. I await your pronouncement with much great anticipation and with even greater eagerness as to why each and every one of these sites - one by one - are deemed by you - the Truly Enlightened One and the True Believer - not to be "authoritative." These are "hobby sites" because they don't fit his point of view. He doesn't need to have any references on his side because he IS Allen Browne and we should all bow down to his greatness.. You should already know that he doesn't want to be confused with facts. I enjoyed his "lets move on" post too. :-) Stephanie |
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"Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote in message ... "Alan Browne" wrote in message ... On 10-03-03 15:48 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: "Alan wrote in message ... On 10-03-03 13:11 , Lawrence Akutagawa wrote: And this is from more than four years ago! Four years! Can you imagine that! Moreover, all his words spoken those four years ago sound very much like What I said is as true now as it was then. . In particular - "...there is nothing you will say to make me change my mind." The true believer of the true faith has seen the light and is indeed once and forever the true believer! As the old poster from years gone by said: "I've already made up my mind. Don't bother me with facts." That wasn't me - put that brush away. I did say "show me an authoritative source that says the opposite of digital is analog, that film is an analog." So far a lot of comparisons or references to hobby sites. I'm done with you, you circle, you snip out relevant matter and you imply that I said things that I never would. Again: I don't care that you don't agree with me. . wups...almost forgot. Alan said "So far a lot of comparisons or references to hobby sites." OK, Alan...simple minded as I am, please for me...and the others here..cite the hobbies of each of the following sites that I referenced: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ http://www.synonym.com/antonym/ http://dictionary.reference.com/ which references The American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2002. Published by Houghton Mifflin. All rights reserved. http://foldoc.org/computing+dictionary and The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2007 http://www.wordwebonline.com/ http://words.bighugelabs.com/ http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/ which references Wordnet Dictionary http://wordnet.princeton.edu/ and http://poets.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin I, the unenlightened and the skeptic, look to you, Alan Browne - the Truly Enlightened One and the True Believer, to proclaim the hobbies of each and every one of these sites...one by one...unto us such that you can - and do - denigrate the antonyms of "digital" found within said sites. I await your pronouncement with much great anticipation and with even greater eagerness as to why each and every one of these sites - one by one - are deemed by you - the Truly Enlightened One and the True Believer - not to be "authoritative." . Well, folks, looks like Alan's not to be found to explain to us how each of my references is a hobby site as well as how each is not authoritative. That really is much too bad. I was really, really looking so to hear him proclaim unto one and all of us the hobby in which - for example - The American Heritage® Science Dictionary is engaged. And I would just love to hear his pronouncement of how it is that The American Heritage® Science Dictionary is not authoritative. Ditto Princeton University's Wordnet Dictionary. And the rest of my references, one by one. When confronted by True Believers like Alan, I love and appreciate the Internet and its easy access to sites like the ones I referenced. Clearly, if the True Believer has any - any - verifiable factual basis for his/her beliefs, it is just as easy for him/her to cite references/links/citations as I do...and have. When he/she cannot - as Alan clearly cannot and has not - then the conclusion is an obvious one. And of course we here have not changed Alan's mind a whit. Moreover, his statement - "Again: I don't care that you don't agree with me" - is perfect and very understandable precisely in that regard, True Believer that he is. Allow me to briefly explain. Given that my references are not "hobby sites" and are - most here would agree - authoritative (and I do want to hear from those who find these references not authoritative), it is not the case that I agree with him. Rather it is the case that he does not agree with verifiable facts as substantiated by the sites I referenced. After all, I did no more than present relevant content from those sites. He is a True Believer and a True Believer he will remain, though he can not provide us with a single, solitary, teeny weeniest bit of verifiable reference substantiating his belief. All he has is his mouth - which he uses aplenty...and now his obvious silence. Such are the ways of True Believers. As the old wall poster from years gone by (1970's, I believe) said - "I've already made up my mind. Don't bother me with facts." |
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Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:
"Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote in message Well, folks, looks like Alan's not to be found to explain to us how each of my references is a hobby site as well as how each is not authoritative. *Hears a pin drop* Stephanie |
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Hi Stephanie,
wrote in message ... I really was crazy into photography when I was shooting medium format and then "stepped up" to digital when it came of age and been fighting with trying to get back the excitement I used to have. All the reasons people use for shooting digital are the exact reasons I lost interest. Having nothing invested in the images, "so convenient", no trips to the store to get film processed (and share results with the friends I made there). I try not to get wrapped up in evangelical arguments about media. For me, the main challenge is to understand the medium in order to achieve an objective. Plus looking at images on a computer screen doesn't even come close to looking at them on a light box to me. Watching the image appear in the tray in the darkroom is stiff such a cool thing too. Maybe part of it is you actually are handling something and using a mechanical camera with no battery that is part of the enjoyment. Or using a camera that is 50+ years old? That you really have to think *a lot* before you push the shutter because each frame costs money, you have to manually set everything and you have a limited number of shots per roll. There are basic differences in shooting styles, regardless of the medium. Long before digital photograpy, there were those who used motor drives and bulk-loading backs to take many sequential shots of a scene, and would then select the best result in the editing room. For that style, digital photography is dream come true. My style is to consider a scene, and shoot judiciously. I seldom have more than 2 or 3 frames of the same scene, and I shoot digital in the same way. I agree that there is a visceral appreciation when using mechanical cameras, and I am not a big fan of the approach that most digital cameras have taken w/r/t their user interface. I only have 2 MF cameras, both Rolleis. My older 50+ y.o. MX TLR is what enticed me into springing for a 6008i system, because I am basically an SLR kinda guy. The two are as different as night and day, and I wouldn't even try to come up with a definitive preference for one or the other. I really am an agnostic when it comes to digital cameras, since I can't even remotely justify the cost of those I'd prefer to use and the rest are just OK with more aspects that I don't like than those I do. -- best regards, Neil --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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