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Photoshop CC problem(s)
On Jan 18, 2021, nospam wrote
(in ) : In article l-september.org, Bill W wrote: This does help me understand the attraction of the whole Apple system. No problems on my iPad or on the MacBook. Coincidentally, I just use them, instead of constantly finding 3better2 ways to do things, and to tweak them. Isn1t that odd? not to those who use them. but if you do want to tweak them, there are plenty of ways to do it, more, actually, than on windows. Yes, I did stumble across those ³secret" areas... I think maybe I¹ll just stay out. i was thinking more of various third party apps than 'secret areas'. I was referring to the command line stuff. I am trying to avoid even those 3d party apps for now. I’m still not pushing the MacBook. I’ve installed all the photo software I use, and a lot of the music software, but I’m still not using it for that. It’s still sort of a backup for the day when a small explosive device interferes with that Windows PC. I have a temper. I think sometimes about installing Windows on an external drive, but then I think, ³why²? I still haven¹t found one thing I can¹t do with Mac apps. how about being able to misconfigure it so much that photoshop takes 2 hours to open a photo... I think I could pull it off. I have great confidence in my klutz abilities. |
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l-september.org, Bill W wrote: but if you do want to tweak them, there are plenty of ways to do it, more, actually, than on windows. Yes, I did stumble across those 3secret" areas... I think maybe I1ll just stay out. i was thinking more of various third party apps than 'secret areas'. I was referring to the command line stuff. I am trying to avoid even those 3d party apps for now. I¹m still not pushing the MacBook. I¹ve installed all the photo software I use, and a lot of the music software, but I¹m still not using it for that. It¹s still sort of a backup for the day when a small explosive device interferes with that Windows PC. I have a temper. check out https://rogueamoeba.com I think sometimes about installing Windows on an external drive, but then I think, 3why2? I still haven1t found one thing I can1t do with Mac apps. how about being able to misconfigure it so much that photoshop takes 2 hours to open a photo... I think I could pull it off. I have great confidence in my klutz abilities. you could use the command line to drop a forkbomb, although that will affect far more than photoshop. |
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On Jan 18, 2021, nospam wrote
(in ) : In article l-september.org, Bill W wrote: but if you do want to tweak them, there are plenty of ways to do it, more, actually, than on windows. Yes, I did stumble across those 3secret" areas... I think maybe I1ll just stay out. i was thinking more of various third party apps than 'secret areas'. I was referring to the command line stuff. I am trying to avoid even those 3d party apps for now. I¹m still not pushing the MacBook. I¹ve installed all the photo software I use, and a lot of the music software, but I¹m still not using it for that. It¹s still sort of a backup for the day when a small explosive device interferes with that Windows PC. I have a temper. check out https://rogueamoeba.com Looks interesting. I’ll have to check them all out when I get more time. I think sometimes about installing Windows on an external drive, but then I think, 3why2? I still haven1t found one thing I can1t do with Mac apps. how about being able to misconfigure it so much that photoshop takes 2 hours to open a photo... I think I could pull it off. I have great confidence in my klutz abilities. you could use the command line to drop a forkbomb, although that will affect far more than photoshop. I am quite capable of inadvertently doing that sort of thing. I used to play around a lot with C and C++. I remember writing a program to securely delete a file. But I forgot to write the code that told the program to delete the file actually selected by the user. I have no idea which random files got deleted when I was testing it. |
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On 19/01/2021 01:47, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 01:13:35 +0000, Melanie van Buren wrote: As for you photoshop problems: I've been around tech for years and gearhead talk or offering free tech support beyond an occasional minimum doesn't interest me one little bit. Been there, done that. From experience: A.) If you cannot solve a problem in the first 10 minutes in all likelyhood you never will. B.) Most problems are caused by user error. I would also add C.) Most general populations perform at the average hence 99% of the chat in this topic is noise as random levers are pulled. This is often caused by D.) Not having the correct understanding or information at stage one. Which brings us to step E.) Wipe and reinstall. It's not ideal and nobody learns anything and it covers up flawed products but solves a lot of problems. Just don't do it again... I am persistent. I have solved my problems (I think) not within 10 minutes but after several days. If somebody's problem doesn't interest you and you can't help, then just ignore it. Don't let it worry you. But it worried hell out of me. I was wanting to try something new and the damned software wouldn't work! Don't let Savage duck worry you either. He is a technical perfectionist but hardly has an artistic bone in his body. :-) Did you follow up the link to the tree that I gave you? Yes, that's what I did. I don't see any point in gearheading and other stuff when it's just spinning wheels to score points and pass the time away. Mistakes happen and as you note can take days to sort out. Been there. I haven't followed any links up to avoid adding to the nonsense plus I prefer picture links with a description and commentary to give context and saving clicking on junk. I've also been busy glancing through images by the competition to get a sense of where they are at and the market they are creating and anything of technical or artistic merit for ideas. I've had a few things arrive in the post and some things still in delivery I want to try on to see if they work in photos and/or with clients. I bought one skirt because of a Helmut Newton picture but its style is a bit off. I don't know if it will or won't work plus I'm lacking a few other things I need to source and they're not always cheap or sometimes go out of supply. Now I need to work out what can go with what, should I keep it for civilian life or work, and what pictures if any can be constructed from this. It can take a few weeks or months for an idea to come together and be able to shoot it. as an example I discovered I have what I need to take to take a picture similar to one I saw on Getty Images but not before the summer or outside of a studio or staged scene. I think I can use this skirt easily possibly with a pair of seamed stockings and heels but then I need to get the light and scene right and I can't do that yet and that's before whether I can make a collection out of it. I could rattle off a 100 pictures and could use the majority and nobody would complain but I'm aiming for a notch above so lucky if I get a dozen I can use. The rest are filler I can use for other things but long term I'd rather not as I want everything I use to be to a standard and this will take more practice. I also want a few silky tops to show a hint of you know what underneath and not quite sure what I need so it's taking a while to get everything so I can begin putting ideas together. Anyone can wear something glam and show everything off but doing something a bit more subtle is more work. That's before I even touch a shutter. I haven't even touched props or people (if any and likely not identifiable) in the background yet. -- Melanie van Buren |
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On 18/01/2021 11:30 am, Savageduck wrote:
On Jan 18, 2021, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 13:31:11 -0800, Savageduck wrote: What help? Nobody here actually wants to make the effort of discussing art and photography or anything I'm interested in. Gearhead talk doesn't rock my boat even if it is the lazy option. This thread relates to Eric, a long time subscriber to this NG having a problem with Photoshop. If you hadn’t been paying attention you should be aware that Photoshop is an editing tool that most serious photographers, pro & amateur use as a fundamental part of their photography workflow. As for photography, from time to time some of us actually post images, and sometimes we might get a comment or two. Perhaps you should exercise your particular boredom over at alt.binaries.photos.original. The folks there might applaud your artistry. Both of us have posted photographs to this group from time to time but neither of us lately (I am not ignoring your drone videos but they are a different class of object). But I must say you are in danger of turning into a grumpy old man. :-) I am trying my best to be a subtle grumpy old man. Doing a very good job I think. I'll be 81 in February and my grumpiness with telemarketers in the past ten years has gone through the roof works so well they never call back. Never! |
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On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 8:20:57 PM UTC-5, Melanie van Buren wrote:
On 18/01/2021 14:52, -hh wrote: Perhaps I'm a bit biased, coming from an 'Art Education' heritage, but what 'Melanie' shared just isn't art. Its not even a decent tribute copy. Well, duh. I never trained as an artist and very clearly stated in my first thread that I'm learning from the starting point of where I am at. Critique and pruduction is very different as you *should* know. True, but that's also not an excuse for not even getting the basics right. I'd excuse these if you were a kid, but even without any training or reading, most beginners have the 'gearhead' basics sorted by the time they're 13. I'm also juggling a lot of other factors I'm not discussing with you or you re not taking into account so basically you can go stick your attitude. From my point of view you haven't said anything interesting or valuable just sat there being silent or as now sniping from the sidelines. Well, here's some advice: your biggest problem is your attitude. It is what's presently holding you back. I'm not unfamiliar with art and fairly happy with my critiquing skills based on past experience offline so again you can stick the attitude. Put it this way - I don't see you producing anything other than book smart wanky attitude. Just because you've not looked, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. -hh |
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On 19/01/2021 11:22, -hh wrote:
On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 8:20:57 PM UTC-5, Melanie van Buren wrote: On 18/01/2021 14:52, -hh wrote: Well, here's some advice: your biggest problem is your attitude. It is what's presently holding you back. My attitude? Every tried actually reading and *comprehending* what I've discussed instead of shoving your worldview in my face?. Go sling it... -- Melanie van Buren |
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On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 6:45:51 AM UTC-5, Melanie van Buren wrote:
On 19/01/2021 11:22, -hh wrote: On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 8:20:57 PM UTC-5, Melanie van Buren wrote: On 18/01/2021 14:52, -hh wrote: Well, here's some advice: your biggest problem is your attitude. It is what's presently holding you back. My attitude? Every tried actually reading and *comprehending* what I've discussed instead of shoving your worldview in my face?. Go sling it... Quod erat demonstrandum -hh |
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 20:00:14 -0600, Bill W
wrote: ---- snip ---- In fact, I like it opening in ACR and I am interested to note that the Preferences setting now seems to turn it off. I haven't yet tried the Shift key when opening. OOPS! The Preferences setting now no longer seems to turn it off. I still think that’s a system setting. You leave it checked if you want raw files associated with PS/ACR. But either way, what happens when you simply double click a raw file in Windows explorer both with it checked and with it unchecked? And are you aware of the vertical menu bar along the upper right in ACR? If you don’t have edit selected (I believe the top entry), you might not get the sliders that you say are missing. AFAIK that menu bars is a fixed part of what Adobe calls the dialog box. its a quick way of selecting which group of editing controls you want to have conversation with. It doesn't actually turn anything on or off. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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