Agfa Pan-X 400 / D76 times

Alright. I think Agfa Pan-X is a new film, according to its white
papers. The 400 film seems to shoot like 200 and this is troubling to
me. I'm developing it in D76 at roughly 1:1 and 12 minutes isn't cutting
it. I'm just about to shoot a concert with it and I'd like to know if
anyone else is having this same problem. I looked on Agfa's website and
could only find times and dilutions for rodinol, which I guess is to be
expected. Any ideas?

- max

Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
1:1) = 12 min

"Max" wrote in message news:42212d60$1@darkstar...
Alright. I think Agfa Pan-X is a new film, according to its white
papers. The 400 film seems to shoot like 200 and this is troubling to
me. I'm developing it in D76 at roughly 1:1 and 12 minutes isn't cutting
it. I'm just about to shoot a concert with it and I'd like to know if
anyone else is having this same problem. I looked on Agfa's website and
could only find times and dilutions for rodinol, which I guess is to be
expected. Any ideas?

- max

Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
1:1) = 12 min

"Max" wrote in message news:42212d60$1@darkstar...
Alright. I think Agfa Pan-X is a new film, according to its white
papers. The 400 film seems to shoot like 200 and this is troubling to
me. I'm developing it in D76 at roughly 1:1 and 12 minutes isn't cutting
it. I'm just about to shoot a concert with it and I'd like to know if
anyone else is having this same problem. I looked on Agfa's website and
could only find times and dilutions for rodinol, which I guess is to be
expected. Any ideas?

- max

"Luka Gojceta" wrote in message
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Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
1:1) = 12 min

That's pretty much a standard recommendation by the manufacturer and where
Digital Truth might be correct. For the most part, I find their data for
nonstandard times closer to impressionism and guessing.

Earlier someone had asked about high-dilution D-76 (1:30 and higher). I have
a feeling that D-76's may not even work in high dilutions. Has anyone
insight into that issue?

"Luka Gojceta" wrote in message
...

Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
1:1) = 12 min

That's pretty much a standard recommendation by the manufacturer and where
Digital Truth might be correct. For the most part, I find their data for
nonstandard times closer to impressionism and guessing.

Earlier someone had asked about high-dilution D-76 (1:30 and higher). I have
a feeling that D-76's may not even work in high dilutions. Has anyone
insight into that issue?

This is probably more of my inexperience than it is my powerful insight
into the issue, but I've never diluted D76 more than 1:4 and had
anything remotely desirable happen as a result.

( thanks for the recommendation btw; I'll try it tomorrow when I develop
the pictures I shot at the show last night )

- max

jjs wrote:
"Luka Gojceta" wrote in message
...


Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
1:1) = 12 min


That's pretty much a standard recommendation by the manufacturer and where
Digital Truth might be correct. For the most part, I find their data for
nonstandard times closer to impressionism and guessing.

Earlier someone had asked about high-dilution D-76 (1:30 and higher). I have
a feeling that D-76's may not even work in high dilutions. Has anyone
insight into that issue?

This is probably more of my inexperience than it is my powerful insight
into the issue, but I've never diluted D76 more than 1:4 and had
anything remotely desirable happen as a result.

( thanks for the recommendation btw; I'll try it tomorrow when I develop
the pictures I shot at the show last night )

- max

jjs wrote:
"Luka Gojceta" wrote in message
...


Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
1:1) = 12 min


That's pretty much a standard recommendation by the manufacturer and where
Digital Truth might be correct. For the most part, I find their data for
nonstandard times closer to impressionism and guessing.

Earlier someone had asked about high-dilution D-76 (1:30 and higher). I have
a feeling that D-76's may not even work in high dilutions. Has anyone
insight into that issue?

"jjs" wrote in message
...
"Luka Gojceta" wrote in message
...

Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in
d76 (stock, not
1:1) = 12 min

That's pretty much a standard recommendation by the
manufacturer and where Digital Truth might be correct. For
the most part, I find their data for nonstandard times
closer to impressionism and guessing.

Earlier someone had asked about high-dilution D-76 (1:30
and higher). I have a feeling that D-76's may not even
work in high dilutions. Has anyone insight into that
issue?

I just wrote a reply to the same post. I also doubt if
D-76 will develop at all at these high dilutions. It might
if given many hours, maybe an interesting science
experiment:-) As for Agfa times, I've found a good guide is
to look at Agfa's recommended times for Rodinal. Rodinal
time at 1:25 is about right for stock D-76, Rodinal 1:50
time is about right for D-76 at 1:1. This will at least show
if the times from some other source are in the ball park.
Agfa films seem to develop slowly. In the 1950's Kodak film
guides D-76 show development times on the order of 12 to 20
minutes for stock D-76, most modern films develop in perhaps
a third of these times. I think this is a reflection of
differences in the emulsions not in the target contrast.

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA

"Luka Gojceta" wrote in message
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Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
1:1) = 12 min

"Max" wrote in message
news:42212d60$1@darkstar...
Alright. I think Agfa Pan-X is a new film, according to its white
papers. The 400 film seems to shoot like 200 and this is troubling to
me. I'm developing it in D76 at roughly 1:1 and 12 minutes isn't cutting
it. I'm just about to shoot a concert with it and I'd like to know if
anyone else is having this same problem. I looked on Agfa's website and
could only find times and dilutions for rodinol, which I guess is to be
expected. Any ideas?

- max

According to my trusty Agfa guide: APX 400 @ 68 deg
calls for D76 stock for 10 mins, 1:1 for 14 mins.
Bob Hickey

I tried 1:1 for 14 minutes. Stock at 12 minutes worked perfectly. Anyone
know how to exploit the red sensitivity of APX 400? I hear rumours about it.

Thanks,

- max

Bob Hickey wrote:
"Luka Gojceta" wrote in message
...

Try www.digitaltruth.com, the APX 400 (new) @ 20 deg. in d76 (stock, not
1:1) = 12 min

"Max" wrote in message

news:42212d60$1@darkstar...

Alright. I think Agfa Pan-X is a new film, according to its white
papers. The 400 film seems to shoot like 200 and this is troubling to
me. I'm developing it in D76 at roughly 1:1 and 12 minutes isn't cutting
it. I'm just about to shoot a concert with it and I'd like to know if
anyone else is having this same problem. I looked on Agfa's website and
could only find times and dilutions for rodinol, which I guess is to be
expected. Any ideas?

- max

According to my trusty Agfa guide: APX 400 @ 68 deg

calls for D76 stock for 10 mins, 1:1 for 14 mins.
Bob Hickey