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Gregory Blank wrote: In article , "death skunk five" wrote: prints will last up to 500years. They already do if you print using platinum and acid free paper. According to the Image Permanence Institute 500 years is an acceptable estimate for an archivally processed and selenium toned gelatin silver print as well. |
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Gregory Blank wrote: In article , "jimmy" wrote: I agree with a previous poster that B&W film, paper and chemicals will still be around as an art form for the foreseeable future. Widely available - no - but available. Yes & it may mean a commitment of more than an occasional 25 sheet pack of sample paper on some people's part. Uh...I already can't buy anything less than a 50 sheet seagull in 16x20 at $150+. And I still buy it. |
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Tom Phillips wrote: Uh...I already can't buy anything less than a 50 sheet seagull in 16x20 at $150+. And I still buy it. $150 is what I paid for a box of Elite in 1992. I guess thats still a good price although I have been getting Forte direct from the distributer for a lot cheaper. -- LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
Forecast the future of B&W. Where do you think it will be in: 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? If there is enough participation the average of the predictions often turns out to be pretty accurate. The subject of more meaningless forecasts :-) |
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Gregory Blank wrote: In article , Tom Phillips wrote: Uh...I already can't buy anything less than a 50 sheet seagull in 16x20 at $150+. And I still buy it. $150 is what I paid for a box of Elite in 1992. I guess thats still a good price although I have been getting Forte direct from the distributer for a lot cheaper. What I meant was you can't get it in 10/25 sheets anymore. But I still buy the 50 even though 10 is all I need at ay one time.. |
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Steven Kefford wrote:
Nicholas O. Lindan wrote: If there is enough participation the average of the predictions often turns out to be pretty accurate. The subject of more meaningless forecasts :-) What Nicholas said is true -- if you get answers from a broad enough sample, the results tend to be reliable. Planners use the technique to determine future growth patterns in the regions they administer. My prediction: B&W printing will be pretty much the same in the future as it is now. Significant, but not huge. Bob |
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Tom Phillips wrote:
Black and white silver imaging will always be practiced as an art form. Plus in 1000 years when all those digital files stored on hard drives and CDs have disappeared, photos on film (any film) will still be here. Difference between having a real bird in hand vs two cyberbush birds that don't really exist to begin with. Images from digital files can be archivally printed too. Why do you think that photos from color film will be around in 1000 years? I've got color prints that have already faded; there's no way they will last 100 years, let alone 1000. Bob |
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"bob" wrote
the same in the future as it is now. Only more so. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. To reply, remove spaces: n o lindan at ix . netcom . com psst.. want to buy an f-stop timer? nolindan.com/da/fstop/ |
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Bob wrote:
Images from digital files can be archivally printed too. Why do you think that photos from color film will be around in 1000 years? I've got color prints that have already faded; there's no way they will last 100 years, let alone 1000. Agreed. Color and BW printing (both traditional and inkjet) are qualitatively different. I'll put my money on pigment inks, but dyes are inherently less stable. The only hope for dye ink longevity is a very compatible substrate that can prevent oxidation of the inks. I don't know how one might prevent the breakdown of dye molecules from simple photon energy. Gelatin and swellable polymer substrates seem to be the key to dye ink longevity. rafe b. http://www.terrapinphoto.com |
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rafeb wrote:
I'll put my money on pigment inks, but dyes are inherently less stable. The only hope for dye ink longevity is a very compatible substrate that can prevent oxidation of the inks. I don't know how I'm particularly interested in the archival qualites of color laser printout. I have a feeling that the prints will last as long as the paper, but I don't know with certainty. They don't seem to be impacted by UV. Bob |
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