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"Chris Brown" wrote in message ... In article N4GGb.135394$8y1.415169@attbi_s52, Don Coon wrote: However, I will say that used Canon EOS lenses are *NOT* selling anywhere near half price. The demand for EOS lenses is so high that "out-of-stock" is common at many etail sites and prices on Ebay are high. Indeed, and now they've introduced the 300D, it's going to be even harder to pick up a nice second-hand bargin. Having said that, I did get a pretty good deal on a Canon 20-35 USM and a Canon 15mm fisheye, both used, both in mint condition, recently. It wasn't anything like as low as half price, but it was a reasonable discount from new. The fisheye makes a very nice companion for a 10D, although it does exhibit a bit of chromatic abberation, easily fixable in Photoshop CS's raw convertor. You can occassionally snag such a deal especially if they pick a poor ending time between 3am and 8am, What were they thinking? : ) |
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"Clanger" wrote in message ... "The Spectre" wrote in message .. . WTF, is going on with the price of used 35mm equipment? I can not believe that Nikon F5's, F4's, n90s's etc.. and associated Nikon f2.8 lenses and accessories are selling for so little. I mean come on I saw an F5 with MF-28 sell for $725.00!!! And that was after the seller reduced it twice. These are still current production $1500 - $2000 cameras. Also, f2.8 glass is many times half of new price. Makes me wish I had an extra grand laying around. DIGITALLLLLLLLLL that's what. Yep. Someone yelled DIGITAL and all of a sudden there was a panic as if being caught in a Chinese fire drill. Nick |
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"Paul Rubin" wrote in message ... "Howard McCollister" writes: That url didn't make it, can you post the complete url? Thanks. Bad wrap...try this...http://tinyurl.com/2l3u8 Thanks. The comparison of film with 8mm movies is valid. 8mm movies are not dead, but have gotten mostly-displaced by video. As another example, you can still get analog wris****ches (mechanical with gears inside) but almost everyone wears electronic watches these days. (Even the quartz watches with analog dials and hands actually have a digital circuit inside). Quartz watches are indeed worn by many people. I even have two. But I wear a mechanical watch and most of my collection are mechanical watches. Nick |
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"Mac Breck" wrote in message ... "Don Coon" wrote in message news:HsiHb.664880$HS4.4717193@attbi_s01... "Paul Rubin" wrote in message ... Chris Brown writes: AFAICS, EOS lenses are holding their value very well, and selling fast on the second hand market. If you know somewhere this isn't the case, do let me know as I could get a nice late Christmas present for my 10D. ;-) I have the impression Nikon lenses are getting creamed pretty badly, especially manual focus ones of which I have quite a few, but I haven't been able to bring myself to check. Possibly because the manual focus ones can only be metered with the D1/D2 series and not the cheaper ones which are based on the cheaper model film bodies. It's the reason I'd go with a D1/D2 series body instead of say a D100. Somebody who has a lot of or just likes manual glass better, would keep their manual glass and gravitate toward a D1/D2 body. Somebody who's willing to give up (sell/dump) their manual glass may just switch to Nikon AF and a D100. There's no reason to knee-jerk jump to Canon. That's my assessment. Notice how many Nikon lenses are being offered for sale on the rec.photo.marketing usergroups compared to Canon lenses. Leads me to believe a lot of Nikon users are bailing out and converting to Canon DSLRs. How you got from that premise to that conclusion, I'll never know! What's you explanation??? Many more Nikon lenses being sold than Canon. Buyers of DSLRs tend to hang onto their lenses when converting to the same brand of DSLR. Those switching DSLR brands tend to dump their old lenses. I'm curious to hear your explanation. |
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"Don Coon" wrote in message news:35kHb.677971$Fm2.585734@attbi_s04... How you got from that premise to that conclusion, I'll never know! What's you explanation??? Many more Nikon lenses being sold than Canon. Buyers of DSLRs tend to hang onto their lenses when converting to the same brand of DSLR. Those switching DSLR brands tend to dump their old lenses. I'm curious to hear your explanation. I think the point is that the older Nikon lenses don't work on the D100, so they are being sold whether the photographer is moving to Canon OR Nikon. Either way, they have to buy new lenses. *Most* photographers can't afford the steeper prices of the Nikon D1x models AND new glass, so they're buying the less expensive D100 or Canon 10D/300D. Tom P. |
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"Tom Pfeiffer" wrote in message ... "Don Coon" wrote in message Tom , Some of those great AI-S lenses can be converted to work with a digital Nikon. An example is the 28mm F/2.8 AIS. This can be chipped to use with any Nikon DSLR. Price I have seen is less than $80. A superb lens. Jim -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Being a Canon user, I'll take your word for the ease and cost of the
upgrade. Does it add matrix metering, AF and distance info to the camera interface? I'll bet many of the older Nikon lenses out there aren't really worth spending $80 on to upgrade and still end up with a non AF lens. I realize there are better lenses that justify being kept around, but they are probably in the minority. Case in point would be my older Minolta manual gear. There were a couple of expensive, fast 2.8 zooms, but I also had 5 or 6 that were just sentimental favorites that could have been replaced for ~$100 each. Without knowing the particulars of either lens, I would wonder why spend $80 to upgrade an AIS 28mm lens when the 28mm AF-D version can be had for the same price? Tom P. "Jim Waggener" wrote in message ... "Tom Pfeiffer" wrote in message ... "Don Coon" wrote in message Tom , Some of those great AI-S lenses can be converted to work with a digital Nikon. An example is the 28mm F/2.8 AIS. This can be chipped to use with any Nikon DSLR. Price I have seen is less than $80. A superb lens. Jim -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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"Tom Pfeiffer" writes:
Without knowing the particulars of either lens, I would wonder why spend $80 to upgrade an AIS 28mm lens when the 28mm AF-D version can be had for the same price? The AIS is a better design and the AF-D is more than $80. |
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Actually, the last 28mm AF-D sold on eBay went for $75:
http://tinyurl.com/37w8e and as I said in my post "without knowing the particulars of either lens". Tom P. "Paul Rubin" wrote in message ... "Tom Pfeiffer" writes: Without knowing the particulars of either lens, I would wonder why spend $80 to upgrade an AIS 28mm lens when the 28mm AF-D version can be had for the same price? The AIS is a better design and the AF-D is more than $80. |
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"Mac Breck" writes:
If DSLR buyers have a large investment in a lot of manual glass that they really like, and it's a system of glass that they've built up over many years, why wouldn't they want to hold onto their favorite glass when they get a DSLR? There are manual lenses that I'd never sell, because I really love the optics. The D100 does not meter with them, so to Hell with the D100. I want to have a DLSR that meters with all of my lenses, and that's the D1/D2 series. I'm sort of in the situation you describe. I have maybe $2K of Nikon stuff, not a large investment by pro standards but not trivial. At the moment there's no D1/D2 camera with a 6 MP sensor with square pixels, so if you want that you have no choice but the D100. Maybe there will be a D2H soon which will probably cost around $4K. At that price it's cheaper for me to throw away my current lenses and get a D100 and new lenses, than to buy a D2X and use my current lenses. Of course if I ditch my current lenses, I'm more likely to get a Canon DSLR than if I can keep using my lenses, so Nikon IMO did a pretty dumb thing in making the D100 unable to meter with MF lenses. The MF lenses usefulness is sort of altered anyway by the small DSLR sensor. The ultrawides become medium wides, my favorite 35/1.4 becomes a non-wide, the 55/2.8 becomes a short telephoto. They're no longer good for the shooting that I bought them for. Meanwhile the newer lenses (at least the pro ones) really do seem to improve on the old ones (e.g. the 17-35). If I had a 300/2.8 I'd probably feel different, but I have mostly shorter lenses. |
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