Do you feel Lucky?

Seriously, anyone have any comments on their film? I saw their ISO 100
color film in a store today. I probably should have bought it, but did not.
(It wasn't a camera store).

Is their black and white film any good? Is it worth persuing?

Thanks,

Geoff.

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

On 9/14/2008 1:14 PM Geoffrey S. Mendelson spake thus:

Seriously, anyone have any comments on their film? I saw their ISO 100
color film in a store today. I probably should have bought it, but did not.
(It wasn't a camera store).

Is their black and white film any good? Is it worth persuing?

Dunno.

Buy a roll, shoot it, get it printed. And look at the negatives; you'll
probably be able to ID the manufacturer. (I bought some off-off-brand
color negative film a few years ago for about a buck a roll that turned
out to be made by Agfa. There are only a few manufacturers out there.)


--
Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the
powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.

- Paulo Freire

On 9/14/2008 1:14 PM Geoffrey S. Mendelson spake thus:

Seriously, anyone have any comments on their film? I saw their ISO 100
color film in a store today. I probably should have bought it, but did not.
(It wasn't a camera store).

Is their black and white film any good? Is it worth persuing?

Aaaargh, should have put brain in gear before engaging mouth. It occurs
to me you're talking about Chinese film, correct? (I was assuming
American, German or Japanese.)


--
Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the
powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.

- Paulo Freire

"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
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On 9/14/2008 1:14 PM Geoffrey S. Mendelson spake thus:

Seriously, anyone have any comments on their film? I saw
their ISO 100
color film in a store today. I probably should have
bought it, but did not.
(It wasn't a camera store).

Is their black and white film any good? Is it worth
persuing?

Aaaargh, should have put brain in gear before engaging
mouth. It occurs to me you're talking about Chinese film,
correct? (I was assuming American, German or Japanese.)

Lucky is Chinese, they have a factory. I have heard
rumors that Kodak co-operated in setting it up but I don't
know for certain that its true. I suspect that they may have
the QC problems that seem to plague Chinese manufactured
goods.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA

Richard Knoppow wrote:

Lucky is Chinese, they have a factory. I have heard
rumors that Kodak co-operated in setting it up but I don't
know for certain that its true. I suspect that they may have
the QC problems that seem to plague Chinese manufactured
goods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Lucky_Film states that they started a
partnership in 2003 with Kodak providing an emulsion making line for
color film but then Kodak pulled out last year.

Steve

In article ,
Steven J Masta wrote:

Richard Knoppow wrote:

Lucky is Chinese, they have a factory. I have heard
rumors that Kodak co-operated in setting it up but I don't
know for certain that its true. I suspect that they may have
the QC problems that seem to plague Chinese manufactured
goods.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Lucky_Film states that they started a
partnership in 2003 with Kodak providing an emulsion making line for
color film but then Kodak pulled out last year.

Steve

Lucky was affiliated or part of Fujimoto a Japanese company. I have a
brochure that shows the plant in Japan, with a clearly displayed "Lucky"
on the tallest of buildings, in said brochure all the Fujimoto stuff
enlargers etc were branded with Lucky on them.

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Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back.

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Seriously, anyone have any comments on their film? I saw their ISO 100
color film in a store today. I probably should have bought it, but did not.
(It wasn't a camera store).

Is their black and white film any good? Is it worth persuing?

I bought 10 rolls of Lucky SHD-100 B&W film a few years ago.

The best thing about the film is that it came in reloadable
135 magazines which are better than the ones I've seen for sale
lately. They might even be as good as the ones Kodak used to
have before they started crimping the ends. These are well made
and they come apart nicely in the darkroom when I give the knob
a firm tap on the table. (The ones from Maco are not nearly as nice.)

The film base is very clear, not grey. Grain is pretty fine,
normal for a conventional 100 speed film - much finer than
Svema 100. The emulsion seems to get scratch marks much more
easily than modern capitalist films. I've never had a problem
with Kodak, Ilford, Fuji or Agfa.

Peter.
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On 9/14/2008 3:39 PM Peter Irwin spake thus:

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Seriously, anyone have any comments on their film? I saw their ISO 100
color film in a store today. I probably should have bought it, but did not.
(It wasn't a camera store).

The film base is very clear, not grey. Grain is pretty fine,
normal for a conventional 100 speed film - much finer than
Svema 100. The emulsion seems to get scratch marks much more
easily than modern capitalist films. I've never had a problem
with Kodak, Ilford, Fuji or Agfa.

Ah, comrade, if you're getting scratches, the problem is your capitalist
camera, not the people's film.


--
Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the
powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.

- Paulo Freire

"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message
s.com...
On 9/14/2008 3:39 PM Peter Irwin spake thus:

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Seriously, anyone have any comments on their film? I saw
their ISO 100
color film in a store today. I probably should have
bought it, but did not.
(It wasn't a camera store).

The film base is very clear, not grey. Grain is pretty
fine,
normal for a conventional 100 speed film - much finer
than Svema 100. The emulsion seems to get scratch marks
much more easily than modern capitalist films. I've never
had a problem
with Kodak, Ilford, Fuji or Agfa.

Ah, comrade, if you're getting scratches, the problem is
your capitalist camera, not the people's film.


I think this is meant to have a smiley on it but
seriously folks (as the man said) scratches CAN come from
coating machine or spooling problems. Some eastern European
films had this problem. Lack of hardness of the protective
overcoating may also contribute but I very strongly suspect
this is a coating problem.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA

"Peter Irwin" wrote in message
...
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Seriously, anyone have any comments on their film? I saw
their ISO 100
color film in a store today. I probably should have
bought it, but did not.
(It wasn't a camera store).

Is their black and white film any good? Is it worth
persuing?

I bought 10 rolls of Lucky SHD-100 B&W film a few years
ago.

The best thing about the film is that it came in
reloadable
135 magazines which are better than the ones I've seen for
sale
lately. They might even be as good as the ones Kodak used
to
have before they started crimping the ends. These are well
made
and they come apart nicely in the darkroom when I give the
knob
a firm tap on the table. (The ones from Maco are not
nearly as nice.)

The film base is very clear, not grey. Grain is pretty
fine,
normal for a conventional 100 speed film - much finer than
Svema 100. The emulsion seems to get scratch marks much
more
easily than modern capitalist films. I've never had a
problem
with Kodak, Ilford, Fuji or Agfa.

Peter.
--


If you are referring to 35mm B&W film being on a clear
base it may be that Lucky is coating an anti-halation
coating under the emulsion. This is common on color
transparency films. The location of the coating makes it
function as an anti-light-piping coating as well eliminating
the need for pigmenting the support.
I am quite sure the Chinese have the technology to make
good film but it requires a level of QC which I don't see in
most Chinese manufactured products. Maybe Lucky is
different.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA