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New Sony Alpha A200 announced - DPReview
10.2 megapixel CCD. Basically an update of the Alpha A100.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08...nydslra200.asp |
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New Sony Alpha A200 announced - DPReview
On Jan 8, 10:17 am, Tony Polson wrote:
10.2 megapixel CCD. Basically an update of the Alpha A100. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08...nydslra200.asp Too bad about the body. No live view either. |
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New Sony Alpha A200 announced - DPReview
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, RichA wrote: Too bad about the body. No live view either. Far be it from me to defend anything that's Sony-branded, but it's also too bad about your continuing lack of clue. |
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New Sony Alpha A200 announced - DPReview
RichA wrote:
On Jan 8, 10:17 am, Tony Polson wrote: 10.2 megapixel CCD. Basically an update of the Alpha A100. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08...nydslra200.asp Too bad about the body. No live view either. That follows shortly with the Alpha 200 Ultra, which has an articulated rear screen and live view. Other details are not yet known but I suspect some of the R-1 technology may be in there to allow almst full time live view for those who want it. David -- Icon Publications Ltd, Maxwell Place, Maxwell Lane, Kelso TD5 7BB Company Registered in England No 2122711. Registered Office 12 Exchange St, Retford, Notts DN22 6BL VAT Reg No GB458101463 Trading as Icon Publications Ltd, Photoworld Club and Troubadour.uk.com www.iconpublications.com - www.troubadour.uk.com - www.f2photo.co.uk - www.photoclubalpha.com - www.minoltaclub.co.uk Tel +44 1573 226032 |
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New Sony Alpha A200 announced - DPReview
David Kilpatrick wrote:
RichA wrote: On Jan 8, 10:17 am, Tony Polson wrote: 10.2 megapixel CCD. Basically an update of the Alpha A100. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08...nydslra200.asp Too bad about the body. No live view either. That follows shortly with the Alpha 200 Ultra, which has an articulated rear screen and live view. Other details are not yet known but I suspect some of the R-1 technology may be in there to allow almst full time live view for those who want it. No, I will not replace my R1! You will have to prise it out of my cold, dead hands. |
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New Sony Alpha A200 announced - DPReview
Tony Polson wrote:
David Kilpatrick wrote: RichA wrote: On Jan 8, 10:17 am, Tony Polson wrote: 10.2 megapixel CCD. Basically an update of the Alpha A100. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08...nydslra200.asp Too bad about the body. No live view either. That follows shortly with the Alpha 200 Ultra, which has an articulated rear screen and live view. Other details are not yet known but I suspect some of the R-1 technology may be in there to allow almst full time live view for those who want it. No, I will not replace my R1! You will have to prise it out of my cold, dead hands. I've never thought it worth while getting a new computer unless it was at least four times faster than the old one. Similarly I don't think it's worth replacing a digital camera with one which hasn't got at least twice twice the linear resolution of the old one (plus other technology to match, such as lenses). So I'm not replacing my R1 with anything that has less than 40MP. That's a medium format standard of resolution, but it's clear that a digital camera will not have to be of Hasselblad size to do that, even though it might be a bit bigger than one of today's DSLRs. So that's going to require a whole new set of higher standard lenses. Not the right time for me to invest in glass, I think. Which is why I got an R1 instead of a DSLR to pass the time while waiting :-) -- Chris Malcolm DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] |
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New Sony Alpha A200 announced - DPReview
"Chris Malcolm" wrote
... (snip) I've never thought it worth while getting a new computer unless it was at least four times faster than the old one. Similarly I don't think it's worth replacing a digital camera with one which hasn't got at least twice twice the linear resolution of the old one (plus other technology to match, such as lenses). (snip) -- Chris Malcolm DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] Things such as wide dynamic range, wider color gamut, absense of image noise, high ISO capability, extremely quick and acurate autofocusing, extremely quick response times, etc...etc... leave you stone cold, eh?? Or do you print meter-sized prints, to be viewed up close?? |
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New Sony Alpha A200 announced - DPReview
gpaleo wrote:
"Chris Malcolm" wrote ... (snip) I've never thought it worth while getting a new computer unless it was at least four times faster than the old one. Similarly I don't think it's worth replacing a digital camera with one which hasn't got at least twice twice the linear resolution of the old one (plus other technology to match, such as lenses). Things such as wide dynamic range, wider color gamut, absense of image noise, high ISO capability, extremely quick and acurate autofocusing, extremely quick response times, etc...etc... leave you stone cold, eh?? Some of those are irrelevant to the kinds of photography I'm interested in. The R1 is already so much faster than my own reaction time for catching acrobatic sports moments that I wouldn't get any benefit from anything faster. I already have far more dynamic range than the best photographic printers can handle, and I suspect the same is true of colour. As for response, I suspect it's a bit faster than my old SLR which had to flip up the mirror before firing the shutter, and sufficiently much faster than me that I probably couldn't notice any improvement. I would appreciate faster and more accurate focus in dim conditions. But I expect those kinds of things to come along with the general technology updates of five or so years hence anyway. The critical thing is the resolution. Or do you print meter-sized prints, to be viewed up close?? Why do so many in this newsgroup sneer at preferences they don't share? Medium format resolution has had a long respectable following for many decades, and only the short sighted need close scrutiny of metre sized prints to appreciate its qualities. -- Chris Malcolm DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] |
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New Sony Alpha A200 announced - DPReview
On Jan 13, 6:23 am, Chris Malcolm wrote:
gpaleo wrote: "Chris Malcolm" wrote ... (snip) I've never thought it worth while getting a new computer unless it was at least four times faster than the old one. Similarly I don't think it's worth replacing a digital camera with one which hasn't got at least twice twice the linear resolution of the old one (plus other technology to match, such as lenses). Things such as wide dynamic range, wider color gamut, absense of image noise, high ISO capability, extremely quick and acurate autofocusing, extremely quick response times, etc...etc... leave you stone cold, eh?? Some of those are irrelevant to the kinds of photography I'm interested in. The R1 is already so much faster than my own reaction time for catching acrobatic sports moments that I wouldn't get any benefit from anything faster. I already have far more dynamic range than the best photographic printers can handle, and I suspect the same is true of colour. In fact if you look at gamut plots, cameras have a much bigger gamut than srgb or adobe rgb, and in fact than most colour spaces (but "how big a colour space" can get complicated and I'm neither an expert nor interested enough). To cut a long story short, if you plan to display on a screen or print, you already have a bigger gamut than you can use. And of the other points, DR, low noise and high ISO are the same point... And speed of AF may or may not be interesting to someone. So I mostly agree with Chris here. As for response, I suspect it's a bit faster than my old SLR which had to flip up the mirror before firing the shutter, and sufficiently much faster than me that I probably couldn't notice any improvement. I have to say, of all the cameras I've used, the D200 feels by far the "snappiest", eg much faster than my old minolta xd7. And faster than all the EVF cameras I have used, in operation and reaction. But it may well be slower in reacting to a final press of the shutter release once you're focused somewhere (it should be, no mirror must be flipped up!). I don't know. I would appreciate faster and more accurate focus in dim conditions. But I expect those kinds of things to come along with the general technology updates of five or so years hence anyway. The critical thing is the resolution. Or do you print meter-sized prints, to be viewed up close?? Why do so many in this newsgroup sneer at preferences they don't share? Medium format resolution has had a long respectable following for many decades, and only the short sighted need close scrutiny of metre sized prints to appreciate its qualities. True. And anyway, I am short sighted, and don't see why I shouldn't be able to look at metre-sized prints from 3cm and see details |
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New Sony Alpha A200 announced - DPReview
Chris Malcolm wrote:
The R1 is already so much faster than my own reaction time for catching acrobatic sports moments that I wouldn't get any benefit from anything faster. Eh? The R1 is *painfully slow* when it comes to capturing shots of moving objects. If you have found some way to speed it up, do share it, please! |
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